BW/BW2 Did Black and White Versions Lack Obstacles?
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WarioWare games are more in my eyes a party game. Not something to play lonesome. Even then it kinda contradicts itself.
When I got WW snapped for DS, as I often play alone, I thought it was an interesting waste of money. 600 points for a game that when played 3 times for 5 minutes can hardly be called a game.
WarioWare for the wii is more entertaining, but I cleared it within 3 hours. For a party game it wasn't really long enough.
Stuff like Mario Party is better. (Not the later ones, those I play Mario Party almost every weekend with friends and it is a lot of fun, it was cheap, it's fun and different every time. If I were to add al my playtime from all my Mario Parties, it still wouldn't be as much as Pokemon but it would certainly come close.
I sometimes play for 3 minutes and put the game down because I can't find the time. But I make up for it later by having like 5-7 hour sessions with a handheld or good RPG. In this case, Pokemon. Plus, if I am struggling what to do, I can usually complete LG within a day because when I was younger I completed it dozens of times. I suppose that's what a good game does too, keeps you entertained for hours with good replay value such as Mario Party. But with the lack of obstacles present in B/W this isn't possible and it falls short on these vital aspects.
When I got WW snapped for DS, as I often play alone, I thought it was an interesting waste of money. 600 points for a game that when played 3 times for 5 minutes can hardly be called a game.
WarioWare for the wii is more entertaining, but I cleared it within 3 hours. For a party game it wasn't really long enough.
Stuff like Mario Party is better. (Not the later ones, those I play Mario Party almost every weekend with friends and it is a lot of fun, it was cheap, it's fun and different every time. If I were to add al my playtime from all my Mario Parties, it still wouldn't be as much as Pokemon but it would certainly come close.
I sometimes play for 3 minutes and put the game down because I can't find the time. But I make up for it later by having like 5-7 hour sessions with a handheld or good RPG. In this case, Pokemon. Plus, if I am struggling what to do, I can usually complete LG within a day because when I was younger I completed it dozens of times. I suppose that's what a good game does too, keeps you entertained for hours with good replay value such as Mario Party. But with the lack of obstacles present in B/W this isn't possible and it falls short on these vital aspects.
All right, fair enough. WarioWare is mostly a replay-value game. It's over real fast, but you typically haven't even unlocked 20% of the game yet. After that, you play for score. I used to spend months with a WarioWare game in the GBA or DS repeatedly beating my high score. It took a long time for anyone to beat my high score of 120 in 9-Volt's Touched! stage. I've always found WarioWare compelling in that sense.
It sounds like you only got Snapped! and Smooth Moves, which are kind of the black sheep of the series, with much lower reviews, professionally and from regular players. Nevertheless, regardless of your opinion, WarioWare has always been a great seller. The latest installment from the team that makes the WarioWare games, Rhythm Heaven Wii is currently topping the Japanese charts, which, like WarioWare, can also be finished within 2 hours.
Complaints about game length is mostly a core-gamer thing. Core gamers tend to associate only with other core gamers, so the worldview of how people play video games would get kind of distorted. I'm speaking of the people who got a Wii for Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort, for instance. Games like those, Tetris, Super Mario Bros. (and New and New Wii), Angry Birds, and almost any Sonic the Hedgehog game (since the beginning) have been massive sellers, yet all of them can be finished within 5 hours. This leads me to believe that the rank-and-file among people don't care about game length.
The reason why the Nintendo DS (and the Game Boy line) sold so well in the first place was because they were great for busy people. Busy people don't have much time for gaming, so they will play in those short bursts. They're people whose hobby is not video gaming, and a long game will simply cause them to lose attention. This is what happened when I was in Santa Cruz, for instance--if someone had a Nintendo DS, chances are they were playing on the bus, waiting for something or someone, or booting it up to show someone something. They got a portable system for a reason: They rarely play at home because they have other things to tend to.
It sounds like you only got Snapped! and Smooth Moves, which are kind of the black sheep of the series, with much lower reviews, professionally and from regular players. Nevertheless, regardless of your opinion, WarioWare has always been a great seller. The latest installment from the team that makes the WarioWare games, Rhythm Heaven Wii is currently topping the Japanese charts, which, like WarioWare, can also be finished within 2 hours.
Dark Void said:
Complaints about game length is mostly a core-gamer thing. Core gamers tend to associate only with other core gamers, so the worldview of how people play video games would get kind of distorted. I'm speaking of the people who got a Wii for Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort, for instance. Games like those, Tetris, Super Mario Bros. (and New and New Wii), Angry Birds, and almost any Sonic the Hedgehog game (since the beginning) have been massive sellers, yet all of them can be finished within 5 hours. This leads me to believe that the rank-and-file among people don't care about game length.
The reason why the Nintendo DS (and the Game Boy line) sold so well in the first place was because they were great for busy people. Busy people don't have much time for gaming, so they will play in those short bursts. They're people whose hobby is not video gaming, and a long game will simply cause them to lose attention. This is what happened when I was in Santa Cruz, for instance--if someone had a Nintendo DS, chances are they were playing on the bus, waiting for something or someone, or booting it up to show someone something. They got a portable system for a reason: They rarely play at home because they have other things to tend to.
Dark Void said:
Yeesh. Pokemon has made many improvemets over it's lifetime. I was playing my Red game and I notice that there was no Special A or D! :O
(I only knew it was 15 off the top of my head, cause I was Born in 96, same year pokemon came out )