XY Evolution ideas for what we've seen so far?

P.DelSlayer said:
Furabebe:
-Can see it being a Fairy/Grass type, with the flower becoming part of its body

I can see this, too.
As I postetd in the main E3/CoroCoro news thread I hope that Furabebe's evolution line will portray the advancing co-existence of two species, from single individuals to symbiosis to conflating into one lifeform.

So it could have a pre-evo in the style of a fairy from TLoZ, looking like Funabebe's head plus its wing-like ears. Pure Fairy type.
It would evolve into Funabebe when trained in a flower field or exposed to a flower item etc.

The evolution would be a fusion of the fairy and the flower (maybe similar to Bellossom or Lilligant, maybe airworthy?) and thus Fairy/Grass.
 
Clauncher:
-Seems like your basic crab pokemon, think Kingler and Crawdaunt.
-Maybe it will become Water/Electric just because of the yellow color.

Skrelp:
-I have trouble seeing what it is right now. Is it a sea horse?
-Maybe it will evolve into a kraken/giant squid pokemon?

Shishiko:
-We already have shinx so I wouldn't like to see a pure lion.
-A manticore would be cool. Kind of like a mix between Drapion and Luxray.

Furabebe:
-I'm already surprised it isn't grass/fairy.
-A split evolution where it becomes Fairy/Dark do it it losing it's flower would be cool.

Noivern:
-I would like to see a basic vampire bat evolve into an actual vampire into this thing. I would be like a giant transformation.
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Fennekin:
-I'd prefer fennekin to stay on all fours.
-The second evolution in this looks good.
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-And this looks good for the 3rd evolution minus all of the tails.
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I am sure they won't make Fennekin to a Nine-tailed fox; we already have Ninetales. :p
 
Fennikin:
Fire/Psychic- Possibly a werewolf-looking thing? A psywerewolf would be really cool. However, I hope its is not another kitsune. We already have 2 fox lines and they are both kitsunes and it boring, repetitive and non creative. So, anything but a kitsune would be nice.

Helioptile:
Electric/Steel- 3 evolutions, each looking more intimidating that the last one, similar to Shinx's line. It will evolve into a massive electric generator cyborg with its ears/frills turning into solar panels and wires. I don't think that just because it is a lizard, it will become a dragon type, and based on its species name and type, I don't think it will evolve into that acid-spitting lizard either.

Pancham:
Fighting/Dark- 2 evolutions, in its final stage, it will turn into a punk-panda, based on its cute little mohawk and expression. I cannot see it turning into a kung-fu fighting/grass panda at all.

Noivern:
No evos or preevos at all. It doesn't need them, I see it more like the Druddigon of gen 6. Not every dragon type needs an evolution.

Shishiko:
Fire/Poison manticore. That is all.
 
I saw this in a previous thread on the 11th, but Skrelp evolving into something similar to the Kraken would be a dream come true.
 
My wants for the new ones: Everything CyberCat5555 just said.

In addition, Clauncher ought to become our first Water/Fire type, since it's based on a pistol shrimp and all. Turning into a big scary explosive mantis shrimp would be perfect.

Furabebe: Dunno. I'm thinking it will probably turn out similar to Burmy and get a secondary type upon evolution depending on what flower it has, if the flower isn't purely cosmetic.
 
Yeah, Clauncher isn't just any crab or lobster. It's specifically one of these:

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"Pistol shrimp," also called "snapping shrimp," are related to lobsters and crawfish but distinguished by a single humongous right claw.

This claw has a mechanism in it so that it can "lock" open, then "snap" shut with such powerful force that it can paralyze or kill prey from the tiny, focused shockwave it fires. It's a true, natural organic gun. Here's a video from national geographic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkY_mSwboMQ

Yes, for a split second, the shockwave bubble emitting by a pistol shrimp really reaches 4000 degrees celsius. If Clauncher remains a "pistol shrimp" when it evolves, I'd expect the arm to become more gun-like or cannon-like.

On the other hand, there's already another, bigger crustacean known for a similar ability:

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Stomatopods, or mantis shrimp, are able to lash out their claws with enough force that their prey is actually damaged twice in a row; first by the claws themselves, then by the pure shockwave the claws have generated, all in less than a single second. Some of them can shatter glass - or human finger bones!

I think it's about 50% likely for Clauncher to evolve into a stomatopod. Just seems like something Pokemon would do. If it doesn't, it'll still be a pistol shrimp, which is also awesome. It's win/win!

I have trouble seeing what it is right now. Is it a sea horse?

Specifically, a weedy sea dragon:

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Its head appears to be more squid-based, however.

I'm guessing its evolution will be either a giant squid, and/or draw from the leafy sea dragon:

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FloodBadge said:
frezgle said:
...You do know Jurassic Park basically made that up out of nowhere and it has no basis in actual evidence, right? o_O

then... why does my dino book from just a few years ago say it can?
i mean, the book even tells me not to trust Jurassic Park movies as fact...

It's just incorrect.

Both the poison and the frill were completely made up by Jurassic Park's art team.

The truth is there are a lot of things dinosaurs could have done, or even body parts they could have had, that fossils may never be able to tell us, so the idea behind Jurassic Park's "spitters" was to be an example of that, something weird that we would only discover if we actually saw dinosaurs in person.

There's an entire awesome book full of stuff like that, speculative dinosaur features we might never know about, which I reviewed here with a couple pictures!

Still, I wouldn't put it past pokemon to reference Jurassic Park's dilophosaurus anyway.
 
CyberCat5555 said:
Noivern:
No evos or preevos at all. It doesn't need them, I see it more like the Druddigon of gen 6. Not every dragon type needs an evolution.

I can see it being the Volcarona of this gen, in that it has a preevo, but evolves late and only becomes worthwhile when it becomes Noivern.
It's also at level 80 in the trailer. I don't know what this means, but given that all other mons have been level 20/50 or their general level (ex. lv2 for Fletchling), it seems worth noting.
 
I heard that they used a frilled lizard to do the dilophosaurus, that's why it was that way.
helioptile just has to evolve in a dilophosaurus, just think about it: with electric arcs between it's ... head thingies, and later into a freaking spinosaurus, it can even keep the head things; gathers sunlight with it's back sail and the electricity arcs in its head.
 
Well yeah, it was inspired by a frilled lizard since that's the only animal at all with that type of frill.
 
ok...
Chespin's evolution like should stay small, like with Chimchar if you ask me. I mean, we haven't had that since... Mudkip and Chimchar! Maybe leave it's arms kinda long and have 3 claws that almost touch the ground?

Fennekin i'd love to see be quadropedal, as someone (i forget who and my internet's being a turd) said earlier... Maybe make it get some smooth and sleek black marks or areas on it's body? Maximum amount of tails i say it should have is 3.

Froakie should...... Evolve... idk

I say Helioptile should evolve into a Rampardos-ish or Haxorus-ish dilophosaurus. Bipedal, but not like a T like real dinos.

Shishiko should grow out it's tail and branch into either a Chimera or a Manticore. or have those being gender differences. I'd like to see it even be a version opposite of a griffin.

As for Furabebe, it should have a pre-evolution where it doesn't need the flower, and possibly have a non-flower evolution that's got a unique obtain condition, like Shedinja, but not splitting into 2.
 
Here's what I'm thinking for the evos:

Chespin - Grass/Dark. I could see it going the way of a lean ninja/assassin type Pokemon, where the spike hood covers more of its body like a sort of cape or suit. There's also the chance that it could end up more bulky and ferocious, with the spike hood becoming more like armor. I guess sort of a Black Knight type deal.

Froakie - Water/Fighting. I either want a wise, Japanese-inspired guru/sensei figure who is far more covered by the bubbles, or a musketeer-like Pokemon who has the bubbles turn into a fancy cape and he has a mustache. The musketeer would likely have a way more gangly figure.

Fennekin - Fire/Psychic. I do not want a quadrupedal Pokemon because that'd be way too similar to Ninetales. I could see it having a sort of masquerade mask and "outfit" on, and the tail becoming huge and poofy, and maybe on fire at the end. There will probably be fire incorporated into its ears somehow.

Helioptile - Electric/Dragon or Electric/Steel, though I think it won't look that much like a dinosaur. I have a theory that the fire cub and it both replace their Normal types as they become more exotic. The frills will probably get way bigger and maybe have multiple rows, and it'd be cool to see it stay on the ground, kind of like a giant lazy crocodile that doesn't want to be woken up.

Pancham - Yeah it's going to look a lot like Kung-Fu Panda. It'll be more like his evil mobster twin though. Big, scruffy-haired, and nasty.

Fletchling - Middle evolution to Talonflame with only two stripes on its tail. Still Normal/Flying, but the fire influences would begin to show.

Gogoat - Single, no pre-evo or evo, with big gender differences. I think it would work far better that way.

Noivern - One or two pre-evo. It seems like the Haxorus equivalent of this generation.

Clauncher - Water/Fire pistol shooter would be fun, though honestly I think that Water/Rock or Water/Steel might be a bit more likely. One evolution.

Skrelp - Two evolutions, where it ends up as a rather noxious leaf dragon. I still don't get why you guys keep thinking it will turn into a squid, that's only the head shape. It seems way more likely that the body will develop and become stronger and more rotted.

Fire Lion - I honestly love the Fire/Poison manticore and I am hoping for that, but a Fire/Normal split gender evolution also seems just as likely. The males of its kind are obviously going to get a fire mane.

Furabebe - No pre-evo. Grass/Fairy evolution where the flower gets incorporated into its design. Also it is extremely likely that it will have three forms, each based on the region of Kalos it was found in. Coastal has a blue flower, Central has white, and Mountain has red.
 
mystic bidoof said:

That design is badass! I would subtract two arms though and give him a bamboo staff to swing around. I feel four arms is too "Machampy".
 
Bogleech said:
Well yeah, it was inspired by a frilled lizard since that's the only animal at all with that type of frill.
No, the point is that dilophosaurus didn't had a frill, or spit poison, just had two badass crests in its head. Crichton and Spielberg made that up, for no reason at all, and to play the dilophosaurus just taped two crests to a frilled lizard and went home for the day.

from the wikipedia page:
"Dilophosaurus is prominently featured in both Michael Crichton's 1990 novel Jurassic Park and its 1993 movie adaptation. It is depicted spitting blinding poison, aiming for the eyes to blind and paralyze its prey (much like a spitting cobra); in the film, it also has a retractable neck frill around its neck (much like a frill-necked lizard). There is no evidence to support either the frill or the venom spitting,[52] which was acknowledged by Crichton as creative license"

I think this image will suffice to persuade you that this thing needs to be a pokemon:
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EDIT: after reading it's wikipedia page, there seems to be that dilophosaurus's crests weren't to absorb heat, just for show and attract mates (like a frilled lizard), so maybe to keep with the heat thing helioptile should evolve into a dimetrodon and then into a a spinosaurus.

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or, if you don't like things that are awesome, an ouranosaurus:
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No, the point is that dilophosaurus didn't had a frill, or spit poison, just had two badass crests in its head. Crichton and Spielberg made that up, for no reason at all

That's exactly what I already said. I'm not sure why you think I'm disagreeing with you? However...

and to play the dilophosaurus just taped two crests to a frilled lizard and went home for the day.

If you mean this literally, no, they did not use a real frilled lizard. The dilophosaur in the film was entirely an animatronic puppet. It didn't look or act like a frilled lizard in any real way, the frill itself wasn't even the same :p

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Interestingly enough, I included a frilled lizard, pistol shrimp, and others that have been revealed so far in my "100 real creatures begging to be pokemon" special, which you can read here:

http://bogleech.com/pokemon/nonpokes1.html

It's ten pages long, featuring mostly my favorite picks - a lot of bugs and sea life, naturally - and ideas for how they could work as pokemon. I didn't think of it for the frilled lizard, but I did suggest a Dimetrodon pokemon having a solar panel theme.

I still don't get why you guys keep thinking it will turn into a squid, that's only the head shape. It seems way more likely that the body will develop and become stronger and more rotted.

While that is perfectly likely, we believe a squid is a possibility for several reasons:

-It's kelp themed, and kelp grows in long massive vines once infamous for tangling up ships, possibly even inspiring some kraken legends.

-The head has that fleshy "cap" on it like a squid's mantle, which no seahorse has, and it has ear-like fins similar to a dumbo or vampire squid.

-There are jellyfish and octopus pokemon, but no squid, and we already have a seahorse line. They do repeat animals, but they seem slightly more likely to do new ones when given the choice.

I'd say it's equally likely that the evolution will be a squid, a seahorse, or a combination of the two. No matter what they went with though, I'm bound to love a toxic, rotten kelp monster.
 
You have very good points, Bogleech, and you're starting to make me learn towards the direction of some sort of tentacle creature. I still do not believe in an outright species change, however. Its design has cephalopod features, but it still retains the appearance of a sea dragon/seahorse. Pokemon tend to follow a pretty set line of species. Charmander turns from a lizard to a dragon, but they're both reptiles. I don't think they'll change the species entirely. Maybe keep it in a fun mix where its tails become long kelp strands, but I do not think they'll turn it into a squid.

Besides, Inkay and Malimar are theorized to be squid Pokemon already, if they are real. Having another would just be too repetitive.
 
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