Extended(Unlimited) Ban/limit list and Unlimited discussion

[Spidy]

the thing is even if cards are broken when their format, doesnt mean they're broken in unlimited. The card pool is vast, lots of things have come out that can stop combos that were unstoppable years ago. murkrow didnt exist in a format with warp and cyclone energies, both of which break the lock, even if trainer lock is up.

forretress has much more of a valid argument for getting banned. but i think it wont work as well if you slow it down, and banning pokemon center i think would be enough to stop it (without that he kills his own side as much as he kills his opponents).

this is just for an initial ban list though, it needs to undergo extensive testing to determine what changes should be made

 

[froggy025]

forretress has much more of a valid argument for getting banned. but i think it wont work as well if you slow it down, and banning pokemon center i think would be enough to stop it (without that he kills his own side as much as he kills his opponents).

Forretress doesn't take damage
Emboar has 150 HP
Espeon can still use Max Potion / SSU / everything that heal damage


Murkrow could be allowed for playtest I guess

 

[Spidy]

Forretress doesn't take damage
Emboar has 150 HP
Espeon can still use Max Potion / SSU / everything that heal damage


Murkrow could be allowed for playtest I guess

true, and i just thought of blissy prime too

it still needs draw power though, i think if we cut decks off of the ability to draw through most of their deck t1, we will be a lot closer to finding out what combos are really broken.

 

[scizorlicious]

^this

Once the insane drawpower is gotten rid of, it would be much easier to make a good format.

 

[froggy025]

I reduced the Ban List.

I'm reluctant to unban Aerodactyl, or to allow Porygon2 in 4 copies, but why not