Good format/ Bad format

who agrees with meon that they should change the format back to what it use to be

  • agree

    Votes: 6 18.2%

  • disagree

    Votes: 27 81.8%
  • Total voters
    33
Hey I go to a league(my dad runs it) where people come in and they are just nOObs I mean they just do not know how to play the game and stuff so we have to help them and those are true nOObs I mean they don't know a thing not even a website all they know is that they want t play be good and win.

Gengar is not that easy to play neither is drill because most people make chunky ones and not the fast one. We all know that machamp is an easy deck to play donk donk donk donk donk donk DONK right I got donked by a machamp at nats bad first game had a bad day and sucked. I like the format but then again I do not it is to easy to lose on the first turn and there is not a roage deck anymore if they put the world decks on the format BOOM the format goes in smokes because the nOObs buy the cards play the deck and win.

The format kind of stinks but not really but still.
 
gengar the baller said:
No, I'm not saying their very hard to play, I'm saying do you really believe someone who has never played or just started aka a noob could really understand how to do well and win with a Gengar or Beedrill. They can read the cards but they wouldn't know how to play around certain things. They may not even put Unown G on their Pokemon.
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but the issue in question is whether or not a complete noob could play with the deck and win...I know they can, I've seen it happen right before my eyes, but of course a complete noob would need to have the game mechanics explained to them and will probably have questions during gameplay...but if you explain what the cards in the deck they are playing with do, it's not gonna be that hard for them to figure out when to do what needs to be done...granted it won't be on the skill level of you, I, or anybody else that has played this game for a while...but they will still be able to get wins with said decks

now...realize, I am talking about game playing, not deck building...the reason I am doing so is because when it boils down to it, there are a large number of players that are just looking for decklists...whether they are finding them on sites like these, from WC decks, or just from decks they have played against or have seen played

deck building is a whole nother story...and there is a severe lack of skill floating around in that department...a person can be an awesome player, but compeltely suck gorilla nutz at building decks...it's easier to become a great player, than it is to become a great deck builder

Tristan said:
Hey I go to a league(my dad runs it) where people come in and they are just nOObs I mean they just do not know how to play the game and stuff so we have to help them and those are true nOObs I mean they don't know a thing not even a website all they know is that they want t play be good and win.

Gengar is not that easy to play neither is drill because most people make chunky ones and not the fast one. We all know that machamp is an easy deck to play donk donk donk donk donk donk DONK right I got donked by a machamp at nats bad first game had a bad day and sucked. I like the format but then again I do not it is to easy to lose on the first turn and there is not a roage deck anymore if they put the world decks on the format BOOM the format goes in smokes because the nOObs buy the cards play the deck and win.

The format kind of stinks but not really but still.
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talk in circles much ??!!?? lol j/k

what's in bold is the point I am making...most losses a noob gets come more from poor deck building than it is poor playing...yes, they still get losses due to poor play, but alot of times it is just a poor list for the deck they are trying to run, or the deck they are trying to run is just not viable in the current metagame (i.e.: not fast enough, poor ratios for the deck build, etc.)

there are plenty rouge decks out there...I got 2nd at a BR with one (MamoChamp) almost beating Speedrill for 1st in Sudden Death...the problem with decks is that nobody is really trying to make their deck ideas work anymore, instead they are just going for what's hot or what's cheap because that's what's winning

I give credit to this year's champ, he didn't play with a cheap deck, managed to tweak it to get around alot of the cheap decks out there, and obviously executed superior gameplay strategy to become champ...because I'm sure there were plenty decks in the Worlds meta that had setups to beat Speedrill
 
qnetykz said:
but the issue in question is whether or not a complete noob could play with the deck and win...I know they can, I've seen it happen right before my eyes, but of course a complete noob would need to have the game mechanics explained to them and will probably have questions during gameplay...but if you explain what the cards in the deck they are playing with do, it's not gonna be that hard for them to figure out when to do what needs to be done...granted it won't be on the skill level of you, I, or anybody else that has played this game for a while...but they will still be able to get wins with said decks

now...realize, I am talking about game playing, not deck building...the reason I am doing so is because when it boils down to it, there are a large number of players that are just looking for decklists...whether they are finding them on sites like these, from WC decks, or just from decks they have played against or have seen played

deck building is a whole nother story...and there is a severe lack of skill floating around in that department...a person can be an awesome player, but compeltely suck gorilla nutz at building decks...it's easier to become a great player, than it is to become a great deck builder

Tristan said:
Hey I go to a league(my dad runs it) where people come in and they are just nOObs I mean they just do not know how to play the game and stuff so we have to help them and those are true nOObs I mean they don't know a thing not even a website all they know is that they want t play be good and win.

Gengar is not that easy to play neither is drill because most people make chunky ones and not the fast one. We all know that machamp is an easy deck to play donk donk donk donk donk donk DONK right I got donked by a machamp at nats bad first game had a bad day and sucked. I like the format but then again I do not it is to easy to lose on the first turn and there is not a roage deck anymore if they put the world decks on the format BOOM the format goes in smokes because the nOObs buy the cards play the deck and win.

The format kind of stinks but not really but still.
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talk in circles much ??!!?? lol j/k

what's in bold is the point I am making...most losses a noob gets come more from poor deck building than it is poor playing...yes, they still get losses due to poor play, but alot of times it is just a poor list for the deck they are trying to run, or the deck they are trying to run is just not viable in the current metagame (I.e.: not fast enough, poor ratios for the deck build, etc.)

there are plenty rouge decks out there...I got 2nd at a BR with one (MamoChamp) almost beating Speedrill for 1st in Sudden Death...the problem with decks is that nobody is really trying to make their deck ideas work anymore, instead they are just going for what's hot or what's cheap because that's what's winning

I give credit to this year's champ, he didn't play with a cheap deck, managed to tweak it to get around alot of the cheap decks out there, and obviously executed superior gameplay strategy to become champ...because I'm sure there were plenty decks in the Worlds meta that had setups to beat Speedrill
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you are the first person to relise what i am talking about finally

and i agree there a select handfull of people who can truly bulid a great deck

but like you said this is not about buliding a deck its about playing not the noobs im talking about are the "begginers" talking pre bulit decks and winning with them by using candy to evovle in to eather gengar and/or mechamp to donk for the win and it takes 0 i mean 0 skill or expercinced to do so



CFOURCOLTSFAN said:
Also I do find it ironic someone called Metrono0b is complaining.
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i madee this name orriongly when pokemon first came out on pokegym.net so when i made this i was (along with everyone else) considerd a "noob"
 
Every deck takes some skill level to use properly. Running "cheap" decks still require you to think hard. The fact that you are chasing for the donk and you don't get it, you have to think of some other strategy to still win even without donking. Gengar can actually be a confusing deck to play around with especially for a beginner due to the fact that it's damage output is based on your opponent so you really have to analyze their hand and think of all possibilities.
 
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