It's not so much that Vileplume is bad as a tech because it needs Reuniclus (it doesn't), but it's that it can't be used alongside trainers. Your point that they're bad techs still stands, though.glaceon said:No they do not. I do not see a place for either of them in most competitive decks. Could you explain?
Neither of them are good techs because they require backup making them work. Gothitelle is bad without Reuniclus, and same with most Vileplume variants.