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Standard Greninja BREAK / Octillery

jessalakasam

jessalakasam

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Pokemon: 19
  • 4 Froakie
  • 4 Frogadeir (XY9)
  • 3 Greninja (XY1)
  • 1 Greninja (XY9)
  • 4 Greninja BREAK
  • 1 Remoraid
  • 1 Octillery
  • 1 Manaphy EX
Support: 31
  • 2 Rough Seas
  • 3 Professor's Letter
  • 4 Battle Compressor
  • 2 Energy Retrieval
  • 4 Dive Ball
  • 2 Sycamore
  • 1 Birch
  • 2 Wally
  • 3 VS Seeker
  • 2 Xerosic
  • 2 Fisherman
  • 2 Target Whistle
  • 2 Startling Megaphone
Energy: 10
  • 2 Splash Energy
  • 8 Water Energy
Strategy:

I most likely will change the deck list
 
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play three froakie you forgot to put in greninja break run 4 dive balls run the supporter fisherman cut down that energy count


3 Froakie bkp
4 Frogadier BKp
3 Greninja XY 41
1 greninja bkp
3 greninja break

4 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
4 Wally ROS 94
4 Evosoda XY 116
4 Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear PHF 92
2 Fisherman HS 92
1 Lysandre FLF 104
4 Dive Ball PRC 125
1 professors letter
4 Ultra Ball ROS 93
2 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
4 VS Seeker PHF 109


2 Burning Energy BKT 151
10 Water Energy HS 117


this is a much more consistent list
 
kingqazbatt said:
play three froakie you forgot to put in greninja break run 4 dive balls run the supporter fisherman cut down that energy count

3 Froakie bkp
4 Frogadier BKp
3 Greninja XY 41
1 greninja bkp
3 greninja break

4 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
4 Wally ROS 94
4 Evosoda XY 116
4 Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear PHF 92
2 Fisherman HS 92
1 Lysandre FLF 104
4 Dive Ball PRC 125
1 professors letter
4 Ultra Ball ROS 93
2 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
4 VS Seeker PHF 109


2 Burning Energy BKT 151
10 Water Energy HS 117

this is a much more consistent list
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Only 3 Basic Pokemon??? When you finally do get one, your opponent, chances are, will have lots of extra cards from your mulligans. This gives your opponent a huge advantage, IMO.

How is your list "more consistent" given the above? Please understand, I am not criticizing; I am trying to better understand your thoughts behind your card choices.

Lastly, why "Burning" energy and not Splash energy?
 
jessalakasam said:
the deck list:
1x Froakie
4x Frogadeir (XY9)
4x Greninja (XY1)
1x Remoraid
1x Octillery
1x Manaphy EX
2x Rough Seas
4x Prof. Letter
4x Battle Compressor
4x energy retrieval
4x Superior Energy Retrieval
3x Max potion
4x Splash energy
23x Water energy

I most likely will change the deck list The start is quite obvious
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Only 2 Basic Pokemon??? No card-draw Supporters (suppose either your Remoraid or Ocillery is prized)??? 23 Water energy are very excessive.
 
TuxedoBlack said:
Only 3 Basic Pokemon??? When you finally do get one, your opponent, chances are, will have lots of extra cards from your mulligans. This gives your opponent a huge advantage, IMO.

How is your list "more consistent" given the above? Please understand, I am not criticizing; I am trying to better understand your thoughts behind your card choices.

Lastly, why "Burning" energy and not Splash energy?
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oops on the burning energy buit a skeleton list on ptgco
and more consistent because you guarantee the froakie start which is needed again until i can play it online it is hard to say but it is much better than 1 froakie and other basics as well
 
I like Kingqazbatt's deck list better except I would remove the BKP Greninja, 1 Wally, 1 Evosoda, and a TM for a XY Greninja, Manaphy EX, Remoraid, and Octillery also with your list you can't get back energy from the discard pile so I don't know what to take out but energy retrievals would help a lot
 
jessalakasam said:
I like Kingqazbatt's deck list better except I would remove the BKP Greninja, 1 Wally, 1 Evosoda, and a TM for a XY Greninja, Manaphy EX, Remoraid, and Octillery also with your list you can't get back energy from the discard pile so I don't know what to take out but energy retrievals would help a lot
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i feel the one breakpoint greninja is good as you can shut your opponents abilities off for the turn and that is the one i would prefer to attack with it would slow down their decks that rely on abilities like anything running bronzong
 
kingqazbatt said:
i feel the one breakpoint greninja is good as you can shut your opponents abilities off for the turn and that is the one i would prefer to attack with it would slow down their decks that rely on abilities like anything running bronzong
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I get it now I wasn't looking at it's attack before but what should I take out for Energy Retrieval
 
my list runs fisherman to pull energy back to your hand but you could drop a few trainers mail for energy retrievals as well but superior energy retrieval is not in standard
 
kingqazbatt said:
my list runs fisherman to pull energy back to your hand but you could drop a few trainers mail for energy retrievals as well but superior energy retrieval is not in standard
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I know for some reason I thought it was in Roaring Skies also Fisherman would use your supporter and shuffle them not give them to you so yeah I would add 2 ER
 
jessalakasam said:
sorry I thought Fisherman shuffled I'm a derp

and I was talking about Superior Energy Retrieval being in ROS
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Superior Energy Retrieval is in plasma freeze. My suggestions would be:
-13 water energies (you will recycle them anyways)
-2 Splash Energies (is easily discarded, and can't use water shuriken with that energy.
-2 Energie Retrievals
-2 Professor's Letter

+3 Sycamore
+2 Shauna
+3 Birch
+3 Wally (gets you the 4 frogadier on turn one if you go second and have an energy)
+2 Trainer's Mail (good search card)
+4 Dive Ball/Ultra Ball

Also, was there supposed to be 4 greninja BREAKs?
 
awesomeMSG said:
Superior Energy Retrieval is in plasma freeze. My suggestions would be:
-13 water energies (you will recycle them anyways)
-2 Splash Energies (is easily discarded, and can't use water shuriken with that energy.
-2 Energie Retrievals
-2 Professor's Letter

+3 Sycamore
+2 Shauna
+3 Birch
+3 Wally (gets you the 4 frogadier on turn one if you go second and have an energy)
+2 Trainer's Mail (good search card)
+4 Dive Ball/Ultra Ball

Also, was there supposed to be 4 greninja BREAKs?
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yep why
 
jessalakasam said:
dang good point or we need a way to shut off abilities entirely
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your damage is done with abilities so shutting them off completely is bad just remove the item then knock the garbodor out and always watch out for trubish killing them before they are garbodor
 
kingqazbatt said:
your damage is done with abilities so shutting them off completely is bad just remove the item then knock the garbodor out and always watch out for trubish killing them before they are garbodor
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I meant opponent's abilities but time to add megaphones
 
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