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Grinders counter deck.

PokeKid Brandon said:
They planned on using Gyarados's second attack.

I also agree with you that on paper this deck shoulndt work. But thats the same wtih Megajudge which is argubly BDIF right now. Don't hate on it till you try!
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Which takes LONG time to load without energy charging pokemon, meanwhile TyRam just takes up 2-4 prizes lol. Not to mention Reversal/Catcher... I didn't even research on any Yanmega having deck except ZPSmega before american nats. :p
 
PokeKid Brandon said:
I also agree with you that on paper this deck shoulndt work. But thats the same wtih Megajudge which is argubly BDIF right now. Don't hate on it till you try!
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That's where you are wrong. Metajudge looks good on paper-it's quick to set up, has decent powered attacks for free, can snipe, and has infinite damage output. On the other hand, this deck has poor damage output, meh speed, and requires relatively large amounts of energy-which the deck doesn't carry. Also, Metajudge performs pretty much the same as on paper, or maybe a bit better-its ability to hit fast or hard really does well. However, this deck performs even worse in testing for many people, due to requiring large costs that barely work anyway, and it isn't a very consistent deck. It seems to me like you guys have a lot of near-worthless Sawsbuck and Gyarados and are trying to get them valued more.
 
Dark Void said:
That's where you are wrong. Metajudge looks good on paper-it's quick to set up, has decent powered attacks for free, can snipe, and has infinite damage output. On the other hand, this deck has poor damage output, meh speed, and requires relatively large amounts of energy-which the deck doesn't carry. Also, Metajudge performs pretty much the same as on paper, or maybe a bit better-its ability to hit fast or hard really does well. However, this deck performs even worse in testing for many people, due to requiring large costs that barely work anyway, and it isn't a very consistent deck. It seems to me like you guys have a lot of near-worthless Sawsbuck and Gyarados and are trying to get them valued more.
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Indeed, bolded part is why i thought gyarados was using thrash. Just becouse Gyarados and Sawsbuck perform decently in VGC doesn't mean that they good enough as cards. In format like this where consistancy, speed and power is king this won't work. this might have some speed but that's about it.
 
Do you ever stop talking about your TyRam or your amazing finnish league dude please stop bragging. Back in topic I think we would have to see this deck in action to really understand it, can you post a video?
 
Tyranodon said:
Do you ever stop talking about your TyRam or your amazing finnish league dude please stop bragging. Back in topic I think we would have to see this deck in action to really understand it, can you post a video?
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He never brought mention to his TyRam or his league. He brought up good theorymon points about TyRam in general. I have already seen this build in action and nothing has really come from it. I'm going to be testing a few more games just to ensure reasonable results.

On Paper, MegaZone is fast, consistent, and heavyhitting. This deck is none of those three... even on paper. It plays too many lines to be consistent, it takes too many energies to be fast, and the damage dealt just can't add up very well. This deck MAY have a strong late game, but that's only if the opponent sits on his/her hands for a few turns. Reversals will come to bring up whatever you are powering up, and you won't have much of an answer to your answer getting ruined.


Why have the OP post videos when you can find your own results? Posting videos allows cherry picking of games. If you are able to attribute a game to luck, you would not want to show that game. In fact, luck can be a measurement of consistency. I would recommend testing the deck 2-3 games on your own... playtcg.me is fantastic for that ;D
 
Zero said:
He never brought mention to his TyRam or his league. He brought up good theorymon points about TyRam in general. I have already seen this build in action and nothing has really come from it. I'm going to be testing a few more games just to ensure reasonable results.
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Indeed, i think he got confused about my signature lol. Haven't mentioned about those (except maybe leagues) within some weeks even.

Already by looking at the deck's cards (this goes for all decks) it's easy (for me atleast) to assume the idea in it and make calculations.
 
Ooops yeah sorry I was looking at the wrong thing doesnt matter I apologise. @Zero I see no point in playtesting it myself as I dont fully understand the decks strategy that is why I wish to see it in action. Even if there was cherry picking of games I would still be interested in seeing how it works.
 
I had the spare cards lying around, so I made it and tried it out.
It is very spastic, occasionally(2 out of 10 games) getting out fast and winning, but also (usually)dying rather quickly without any hope at all.

BTW, I played this with two non-standard unlimited decks, my Yanmega variant and an old Arcanine bash deck.
I have no idea how well it does in format, but it seems rather silly, and yes, Gyarados wasn't even useful for KO'ing Arcanine. I racked up magikarp kills and won.

Gust of Wind kills this deck, so Reversal and Switcher would probably do the same.
 
Pretty sure the whole point of the deck was to counter this format, not an unreasonably strong unlimited deck.....
 
syneptus said:
I had the spare cards lying around, so I made it and tried it out.
It is very spastic, occasionally(2 out of 10 games) getting out fast and winning, but also (usually)dying rather quickly without any hope at all.

BTW, I played this with two non-standard unlimited decks, my Yanmega variant and an old Arcanine bash deck.
I have no idea how well it does in format, but it seems rather silly, and yes, Gyarados wasn't even useful for KO'ing Arcanine. I racked up magikarp kills and won.

Gust of Wind kills this deck, so Reversal and Switcher would probably do the same.
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Yeah, that's great. I think everybody (and their dog) knows that Unlimited decks are way more powerful than Modified ones. Nice comparison there.
 
I do think that a few of these will grind in, BUT no one should be considering this as a play for worlds. It just doesnt work in the worlds setting
 
My Arcanine deck has no search whatsoever, that's how I limit it.
I rely on topdecking and a drawing to get what I need, and I don't use any pre-ex Sandstorm set cards except for Gust of Wind.

Now my Yanmega variant is quite powerful.
 
Sorry I don't think this deck will go far, this is a joke :p It might win due to the surprise factor, but a good player will adapt.
 
Decided to move this to the Deck Garage. Just make sure you edit the title according to the rules of the Deck Garage within a week.
 
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