What about the Kecleon from PLF? Great against Psybox.
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Expanded Gyarados
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maybe, i didn't notice it because it has less than 80 hp (my benchmark was 80 hp to stop starters)
Weavile might work, but that does take two slots out. I think sticking to a safer basic attacker is best. Cool idea though!
What would you suggest then? Could you also further explain your reasoning behind that as well? I play plenty of draw support and retrieval (Octillery, Shaymin EX, Dive Ball, Lusamine, Puzzle of Time, etc.) so I don't think I understand what you mean by that (besides the fact that I don't own Computer Search). Anyways, doesn't Vespiquen or Night March need the same thing, an out to a DBC, attacker, Pokémon in the discard pile, etc.? Let me know what you think, thanks!
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I love the idea of Gyardos, there are just better ways of doing it. Both Night March and Vespi have higher damage, and they are continuously thinning their decks. Also, they only need two things a turn: a DCE and an Attacker. They can both get by without a stadium, and they don't need a second Pokemon.
Tapu lele uses a dce and umm wonder tag???
Can you elaborate?
Tapu lele's attack uses a dce and it does 20 damage times the amount of energy attached to both active pokemon. It is good against yveltal ex and such. And you probably already know what it's ability is.
Ooh new idea
Shining arceus, 2DCE, ohko 3 joltik with the attack thing
Shining arceus, 2DCE, ohko 3 joltik with the attack thing
Your right I guess, Vespiquen and Night March do have an easier job of dealing damage with only the two variables. My main reason for this deck though is that Gyarados can hit higher numbers throughout the game (if you can sustain it as you mentioned) and it doesn't have an easy counter like Vespiquen and Night March. With the new Magikarp, the damage sweep isn't as easy as it used to be, and I plan to take full advantage of the fact.
So, do think there is something wrong with my list (such as not a fast enough engine or consistent recovery options) or with the deck in general (for instance, it isn't keeping up with the current Expanded format)? Let me know what you think, thanks!
Cool card, but I don't know if your opponent is always going to have three Joltik on the bench, especially once they see Shining Arceus (since it take two turns to attach). By the way, sorry for not letting you know I wasn't available earlier. I should've kept you updated. My bad!
i was mostly joking about the arceus
Wow, as the guy who makes a lot of puns, I'm surprised I missed that. Oh well.
What about Tauros GX instead? It one shots the Joltik and Pumpkaboo. Also, Tapu Koko can one shot Joltik after Magma Base damage.
yeak koko sounds good, or you could use the shining legends latios
Not bad, but free retreat is another big factor with Tapu Koko since you don't need to use the energy to retreat.