Has anyone ever seen this before?

Enshidia said:
I like that, someone who deals with WOTC cards. I'm definitely a Nostalgic person, I only got into Nintendo era cards to play competitively, so I "evolved" so to speak, but I'll always be a WOTC card guy.
Also, I have a 1st Edition Gym Heroes Energy, looks like yours, except its a Psychic and has all the info for the Electric Energy you have. My assumption is they forgot the Symbol and the 3's in the card were replaced with 0's, for some weird reason.
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I actually went and opened several more of the packs yesterday and rooted through all the 1st Ed Gym Heroes cards I have (a little over 1000), and none of them had the same issue (the dates or symbol). Would you mind scanning the card you have? Do you recall where you got it from?
 
I can scan it, soon.
As for where I got it...I honestly don't know, I may have gotten it from a Booster a long time ago, or it came with a bundle of cards, somehow I think the former is correct.
Although I may not have been clear, It's just a normal 1st Edition Gym Heroes Psychic Energy
 
Ohhhh, gotcha. Well, no need to scan it then... I have plenty of my own regular 1st Ed GH energies to look at. :p I misunderstood.

I'll list this just after the holidays and let you all know how it does.
 
The facts about this card as I see:
1) the copyright is the same as a 4th issue Base set or Gym Challenge or Gym Heroes
2) it is a 1st Edition card
3) no set logo

There is 3 ways it could be made:
1) forgery. I was a test print before someone made 1st Edition Charizards.
2) WOTC. Someone at WOTC got lazy and used a 4th issue Base set card artwork as is
3) printer. somehow at the printing plant a sheet of 4th issue Base set energy cards got mixed in the 1st Edition stamping on Gym Challenge or Gym Heroes


The problem with solution #1 is if this card has been out there years, why hasn't anyone seen an excesive number of 1st Edition Charizards show up?
The problem with solution #2 is if WOTC used incorrect artwork, How small was the print run?
What I like about like about solution #3 it can be a small number cards that got misprinted.


So what is it?
is it a Gym Challenge or Gym Heroes card with two errors?
or a Base set card with one error?
 
omahanime said:
The facts about this card as I see:
1) the copyright is the same as a 4th issue Base set or Gym Challenge or Gym Heroes
2) it is a 1st Edition card
3) no set logo

There is 3 ways it could be made:
1) forgery. I was a test print before someone made 1st Edition Charizards.
2) WOTC. Someone at WOTC got lazy and used a 4th issue Base set card artwork as is
3) printer. somehow at the printing plant a sheet of 4th issue Base set energy cards got mixed in the 1st Edition stamping on Gym Challenge or Gym Heroes


The problem with solution #1 is if this card has been out there years, why hasn't anyone seen an excesive number of 1st Edition Charizards show up?
The problem with solution #2 is if WOTC used incorrect artwork, How small was the print run?
What I like about like about solution #3 it can be a small number cards that got misprinted.


So what is it?
is it a Gym Challenge or Gym Heroes card with two errors?
or a Base set card with one error?
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That's the question at hand. ;)

RiseDarkraiRise said:
Its base (102) its dull because its first edition Gym is 132
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Is it just me or can nobody else understand this?

Foxtrot said:
Are we all looking at the same link? Because the first one he links us to, the one that he claims is his card, DOES NOT HAVE A SET SYMBOL. Also, it is 100/102, which you expect me to believe is coinsidently the same number as the base lighting energy? Same artist, same copyright numbers (if it was from a later expansion, it would probably have 2000), lack of symbol...it's just a beat up first edition base set lighting energy.
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When you pick yourself up from being knocked off your high horse, PLEASE be sure to let me know what you think about any fault in my vision or logic. ;)
 
I forgot to type my last sentence.

Until solid proof otherwise I think you should call it Base set card with one error.
 
omahanime said:
I forgot to type my last sentence.

Until solid proof otherwise I think you should call it Base set card with one error.
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There are more errors for it to be Base Set...
 
omahanime said:
What other errors for it to be a base set?
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vilebaseball said:
1. This is literally impossible. The concept of the shaded card was not even thought up until the end of the 2nd Issue cards, not to mention the fact that it would require a 1st Ed card to be printed as part of the 4th Issue. There's no way they would have introduced a future concept and copywrited a future date (not to mention correctly removing the 99), even in error.

The only possible way that it could be part is if someone added a 1st Ed symbol to this card as part of the 4th Issue. Despite the unlikelyhood of my idea, I've all but discounted this possibility because: when the fourth printing emerged, it was far after the 1st Ed cards were printed so the chance that someone added this and then put it into packaging that they knew was for unlimited cards is well, worse than the other scenario (particularly because they would have had to do so after the 1st Ed Jungle cards were released, as that first edition logo first appeared with the Jungle ones).
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vilebaseball said:
I recently came across a card in my dealings that is unlike anything I have ever seen before. The card is a lightning energy which I believe is from Gym Heroes or Gym Challenge, the catch is, it doesn't have the symbol printed on it. I have already contacted several other big eBay sellers, none of whom have any clue, as none of us have heard of such an issue before. The card is 100% authentic (yes, I'm sure).

Actual card: http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lightningenergyerrorri8.png

Before someone says "duh, it's from the base set", please give me credit for having thought of that possibility already and ruled it out (just look at the differences in the actual base set one here: http://www.pokebeach.com/scans/base-set/100-lightning-energy.jpg ).

If anyone has any clues as to what set it is from or if they've ever even heard of the issue, it would be much appreciated.

Oh, and sorry for all the watermarks, image stealing is a pet peeve of mine. :\

EDIT: Edited to emphasize important points.
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Yeah, it is defenitely from the base set. It doesn't have a symbol because the base set has no symbol which identifies it as that set. Also, there are 102 cards in the base set and it says it is 100/102 so I believe it is from the base set. But what throws it off a little bit is the fact that the print date on the bottom of both cards differ. Maybe one of them is a newer edition I suppose... :)
 
LuckyLuigi7 said:
vilebaseball said:
I recently came across a card in my dealings that is unlike anything I have ever seen before. The card is a lightning energy which I believe is from Gym Heroes or Gym Challenge, the catch is, it doesn't have the symbol printed on it. I have already contacted several other big eBay sellers, none of whom have any clue, as none of us have heard of such an issue before. The card is 100% authentic (yes, I'm sure).

Actual card: http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lightningenergyerrorri8.png

Before someone says "duh, it's from the base set", please give me credit for having thought of that possibility already and ruled it out (just look at the differences in the actual base set one here: http://www.pokebeach.com/scans/base-set/100-lightning-energy.jpg ).

If anyone has any clues as to what set it is from or if they've ever even heard of the issue, it would be much appreciated.

Oh, and sorry for all the watermarks, image stealing is a pet peeve of mine. :\

EDIT: Edited to emphasize important points.
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Yeah, it is defenitely from the base set. It doesn't have a symbol because the base set has no symbol which identifies it as that set. Also, there are 102 cards in the base set and it says it is 100/102 so I believe it is from the base set. But what throws it off a little bit is the fact that the print date on the bottom of both cards differ. Maybe one of them is a newer edition I suppose... :)
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Oh... my God. Really? Okay, I've edited the first post, hopefully it's more clear now.
 
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