Can anyone help me build the Plasma deck? I know its not a deck to start out with because people are countering it but I would still like to know how to build it.
Help Building Plasma?
- Thread starter cowtiiper5
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Asking for a list is generally frowned upon in the Pokemon community, however, I'll give you a skeleton:
Pokemon- 8
4 Deoxys
3 Kyurem
1 Thubdurus
Trainers- 32
4 Juniper
3 N
3 Skyla
2 Colress
1 Bianca
4 Colress Machine
4 Switch/Float Stone
3 Silver Bangle
3 Plasma Ball/ Ultra Ball
4 Catcher
1 Ace Spec (I prefer scramble switch)
Energy- 12
4 Prism
4 Plasma
4 Water/Lightning/Blend
That leaves you 9 free spaces to customize the list to how you want it. I would suggest adding 1-2 more Pokemon and the adding a lot more trainers. Once you do that, we can help you further.
Pokemon- 8
4 Deoxys
3 Kyurem
1 Thubdurus
Trainers- 32
4 Juniper
3 N
3 Skyla
2 Colress
1 Bianca
4 Colress Machine
4 Switch/Float Stone
3 Silver Bangle
3 Plasma Ball/ Ultra Ball
4 Catcher
1 Ace Spec (I prefer scramble switch)
Energy- 12
4 Prism
4 Plasma
4 Water/Lightning/Blend
That leaves you 9 free spaces to customize the list to how you want it. I would suggest adding 1-2 more Pokemon and the adding a lot more trainers. Once you do that, we can help you further.
Was is this bad to ask? BTW im new?
In Pokemon, lists are vastly different and there is no one best list. Therefore players who have winning lists have vastly varying lists a lot of the time. Therefore, players like to keep their lists to themselves. It's not like MTG or Yugioh where there is generally one best list. Add cards to the skeleton I gave you and then I will help you out. Also it wasn't "bad" to ask this question just frowned upon. Don't worry I asked the same question when I was new.cowtiiper5 said:
Also, as a rule, don't expect people to listen to your budgetary limits. I've tried to ask for budget help on these and other forums, but it usually just descends into "spend the money or get ignored" territory. An unfortunate problem with TCG/CCGs, but it is unavoidable. Deoxys EX is about $20 each, as is Thundurus EX. Pokemon Catcher is around $10-15 currently, and I don't see it dropping much below $8 even with the theme deck releases. Your Ace Spec can also run you a pretty penny (Scramble Switch is reasonable at $10-11.)
I'm not trying to undermine camoclone, or turn you off of playing Pokemon, or anything of the sort. But it helps to know what kind of prices you're looking at when you jump into a game.
I'm not trying to undermine camoclone, or turn you off of playing Pokemon, or anything of the sort. But it helps to know what kind of prices you're looking at when you jump into a game.
Shinigami said:
Cough Tin Promos Cough... The essential cards in this deck minus Kyurem are going to see tin reprints. Here is the estimated prices:
Deoxys: $8
Thundurus: $7
Also catchers price will steadily decrease to around $5... This deck will cost you a good 60/70/80 dollars so be prepared. People can and will listen to your budget if you make it well known. I'm not sure where Shinigami got the idea that people didn't listen to to your budget as the Pokemon community can be a bit more understanding on the budget aspect.
RE: Help building Plasma????
the basics are
3-4 Deoxy EX
2-3 Thunderus EX
2-3 Kyurim PLF
3-4 Colress Machine
2-3 Tool Scrappers
2-4 Plasma Balls
4 Blend WLFM/Prism
3-4 Plasma Energy
Thats the very basics for plasma then you have techs like Absol PLF, Lugia EX, Tonadus EX PLF, plus you add in the basic staples for every deck.
3-4 Prof. Juniper
3-4 N
2-3 Colress
2-3 Skyla
3-4 Pokemon Catcher
0-2 Silver Mirror PLB
0-2 Silver Bangle
2-4 Ultra Balls
1 ACE SPEC (computer search, dowsing machine, scramble switch)
From here on you can add all kinds of techs like EXP. Share, Float Stone, switch, ect.
but this should get you a good start to build plasma, also I'm sure you know this, but all the pokemon staples are/will be in tins/Starter decks. Deoxy EX, Thunderus EX are gonna be tins, and Pokemon catcher and Juniper are in the new Plasma Blast Starter Deck.
the basics are
3-4 Deoxy EX
2-3 Thunderus EX
2-3 Kyurim PLF
3-4 Colress Machine
2-3 Tool Scrappers
2-4 Plasma Balls
4 Blend WLFM/Prism
3-4 Plasma Energy
Thats the very basics for plasma then you have techs like Absol PLF, Lugia EX, Tonadus EX PLF, plus you add in the basic staples for every deck.
3-4 Prof. Juniper
3-4 N
2-3 Colress
2-3 Skyla
3-4 Pokemon Catcher
0-2 Silver Mirror PLB
0-2 Silver Bangle
2-4 Ultra Balls
1 ACE SPEC (computer search, dowsing machine, scramble switch)
From here on you can add all kinds of techs like EXP. Share, Float Stone, switch, ect.
but this should get you a good start to build plasma, also I'm sure you know this, but all the pokemon staples are/will be in tins/Starter decks. Deoxy EX, Thunderus EX are gonna be tins, and Pokemon catcher and Juniper are in the new Plasma Blast Starter Deck.
camoclone said:
I get that idea because I myself am a budget player and have been told on multiple occasions, on this forum and others, that if I don't spend money on the power cards, I'm just wasting my time, despite laying out my budgetary concerns time after time. It got to the point where I stopped coming to the forums because I was tired of having people tell me I'm a terrible player for not having money.
As for your projected pricing, I will admit that tin promos run at roughly half of the price of an actual card (ridiculous, in my opinion, because it's still the same card with different art and a promo number instead of a set number), but Catcher is too good to go below $10. It's in every tournament deck, in multiples of two or more, and even if you do buy starters to get them, that's still $12 per Catcher, realistically.
RE: Help building Plasma????
If you don't mind me asking like I said I'm new so what is PLF and PLB?
If you don't mind me asking like I said I'm new so what is PLF and PLB?
I'm not sure why you've had this problem but I would be happy to help. PM if you want me to take a look.Shinigami said:
The reason Catcher was so expensive was because it was from a crap set and you only pulled 1-2 per box. Now with a plasma blast and theme deck reprint its price will go down considerably. You get an average of 3 per box and sometimes more. The sheer popularity of the set will make catchers price go down as well. How playable something is isn't the only factor. Consider Juniper which is a card every deck needs 4 of. I can get that for under $2.
RE: Help building Plasma????
Those are the sets that the card comes in. PLF is Plasma Freeze, PLB is Plasma Blast, PLS is Plasma Storm, BCR is Boundaries Crossed, DRV is Dragon Vault, DRX is Dragons Exalted, DEX is Dark Explorers, and NXD is Next Destinies. Try not to worry about the others too much as they are no in the upcoming format which is NXD-On which means only cards from Next Destinie - Plasma Blast are legal. (unless a card was reprinted in one of these sets)
Edit: Kinda Ninja'd
Those are the sets that the card comes in. PLF is Plasma Freeze, PLB is Plasma Blast, PLS is Plasma Storm, BCR is Boundaries Crossed, DRV is Dragon Vault, DRX is Dragons Exalted, DEX is Dark Explorers, and NXD is Next Destinies. Try not to worry about the others too much as they are no in the upcoming format which is NXD-On which means only cards from Next Destinie - Plasma Blast are legal. (unless a card was reprinted in one of these sets)
Edit: Kinda Ninja'd
RE: Help building Plasma????
Making a good deck right now - buying every card - can cost as little as $70-80.
I don't know where you're getting your prices, but Scramble Switch should only cost about $5-6. Deoxys and Thundurus will go down very significantly with the release of the tins.
You can easily find 4 Catchers for ~$12 online.
If you don't spend money on power cards, you won't have a competitive deck. The difference between having an Ace Spec and not having an Ace Spec; 4 Deoxys and 2 Deoxys; 4 Catcher and 2 Catcher; etc., is huge. If you want to play competitively, you have to spend some money. Probably about $100 for a top-tier deck. If you already have a lot of the staples, it becomes a lot cheaper.
I'm not saying that not being willing to pay for what you need to have a competitive deck makes you a bad player or anything like that. But you can't expect to have anything more than a fun/gimmicky league deck if you don't spend money on it.
Making a good deck right now - buying every card - can cost as little as $70-80.
Shinigami said:
I don't know where you're getting your prices, but Scramble Switch should only cost about $5-6. Deoxys and Thundurus will go down very significantly with the release of the tins.
Shinigami said:
You can easily find 4 Catchers for ~$12 online.
If you don't spend money on power cards, you won't have a competitive deck. The difference between having an Ace Spec and not having an Ace Spec; 4 Deoxys and 2 Deoxys; 4 Catcher and 2 Catcher; etc., is huge. If you want to play competitively, you have to spend some money. Probably about $100 for a top-tier deck. If you already have a lot of the staples, it becomes a lot cheaper.
I'm not saying that not being willing to pay for what you need to have a competitive deck makes you a bad player or anything like that. But you can't expect to have anything more than a fun/gimmicky league deck if you don't spend money on it.