Help me decide on a deck (MD-on)

Which deck do you like the best??

  • Gachomp SV/Manectric/ ERL

    Votes: 3 15.8%
  • Kingdra Prime

    Votes: 5 26.3%
  • Gengar SF/ Vileplume UD

    Votes: 10 52.6%
  • Crobat Priome/ Vileplume UD/ Dugtrio PL

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • Total voters
    19

The Wii Man1234

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Ok I have been trying to decide on my MD-ON deck I have 4 ideas; Garchomp SV/Manectric/ERL, Crobat Prime/Vileplume, Kingdra prime, and Gengar SF/ Vileplume UD/ Dugtrio PL. If you have questions on the stratagy just ask.
 
Yeah, I have a question. What made you think of Crobat, Vileplume, and Dugtrio in the same deck? How do they even complement each other?
 
PikachewTofu said:
Yeah, I have a question. What made you think of Crobat, Vileplume, and Dugtrio in the same deck? How do they even complement each other?

Crobat Poisons, Vileplume prevents Poke Turn/Warp Point/Switch, making the only way to get out of the Poison being to retreat. Dugtrio would damage your opponent.
 
I think Gengar SF/Vileplume UD is the best option. It slows down SPs with the trainer lock and Gengar SF can make use of the lock too with Poltergeist.

I would say Kingdra Prime is the next best option, but the metagame is plagued with Luxray.
 
Gliscor said:
Crobat Poisons, Vileplume prevents Poke Turn/Warp Point/Switch, making the only way to get out of the Poison being to retreat. Dugtrio would damage your opponent.
I figured out that much, but they don't do anything for each other.
 
They do actually - they make the strategy work. However its a lot to set up and probably way too slow. There is also sending out something that can survive anything you'd throw at them, then evolve/level up and voila. Therefore, CroVileTrio won't work.
Garchomp SV is an epic deck but it struggles with any form of a tankish deck akin to Meganium, Steelix and the works. These decks tend to be found around the mid-tables, facing them early in a tournament gives you huge issues. Garchomp C's popularity does it no favors either.
Leaves Kingdra and Gengarplume. Kingdra is by far the faster variety, Gengarplume suffers from speed issues but is highly dangerous. If you want to play rushdown, play Kingdra. If not, play Gengar.
 
Lou Cypher said:
They do actually - they make the strategy work. However its a lot to set up and probably way too slow. There is also sending out something that can survive anything you'd throw at them, then evolve/level up and voila. Therefore, CroVileTrio won't work.
Garchomp SV is an epic deck but it struggles with any form of a tankish deck akin to Meganium, Steelix and the works. These decks tend to be found around the mid-tables, facing them early in a tournament gives you huge issues. Garchomp C's popularity does it no favors either.
Leaves Kingdra and Gengarplume. Kingdra is by far the faster variety, Gengarplume suffers from speed issues but is highly dangerous. If you want to play rushdown, play Kingdra. If not, play Gengar.

K, then tell me HOW they complement each other. Because I can't find any way they do. Three different types of Pokemon? No. Garchomp SV and Ampharos Prime/Ampharos PT work. Blaziken FB Lv. X/Heatran Lv. X do. KGL and Rhypherior Lv. X do (they both discard cards and Rhypherior can get them back).
 
I voted for Kingdra Prime, it is a nice quick easier deck to run, it is very fun to play and very competitive. Weakness to Luxray can be a problem, but I like to run Pluspowers to get the revenge kill.
 
PikachewTofu said:
K, then tell me HOW they complement each other. Because I can't find any way they do. Three different types of Pokemon? No. Garchomp SV and Ampharos Prime/Ampharos PT work. Blaziken FB Lv. X/Heatran Lv. X do. KGL and Rhypherior Lv. X do (they both discard cards and Rhypherior can get them back).


He just explained to you why they work together, although he is right how they would be too slow. A deck doesn't need to be running the same types in order to preform well. Look at Luxchomp; Luxray/Garchomp/Promocroak/ERL/Mismagius that is 5 different types and it is arguable the Best Deck In Format. The game is about synergy different cards have with each other rather than running type themes.
 
PikachewTofu said:
K, then tell me HOW they complement each other. Because I can't find any way they do. Three different types of Pokemon? No. Garchomp SV and Ampharos Prime/Ampharos PT work. Blaziken FB Lv. X/Heatran Lv. X do. KGL and Rhypherior Lv. X do (they both discard cards and Rhypherior can get them back).

They work together not by virtue of attack and type coverage, but by virtue of making sure the poison lock Crobat initiates either stays (vileplume) or causes further harm (dugtrio). Crobat would be the only attacker in the deck.

Also, KGL does NOT work with Rhyperior X. You'd be a fool if you try to make that deck work.
 
The Crobat deck actuily has great synergy the Crobat is the main attacker and the other two help support, and the Dugtrio (although it isn't the best) is a Luxray counter. The Gachomp SV/Manectric/ ERL deck works to KO all powers and uses Garchomp (which is colorless) to deal heavy damage.
 
Lou Cypher said:
They work together not by virtue of attack and type coverage, but by virtue of making sure the poison lock Crobat initiates either stays (vileplume) or causes further harm (dugtrio). Crobat would be the only attacker in the deck.

Also, KGL does NOT work with Rhyperior X. You'd be a fool if you try to make that deck work.

Mm...yeah, they could work with some other techs. Uh, yeah, you'd be a fool for not being creative (which you aren't) when making decks and thinking of possibilities. There's so many combination's yet to be discovered, and we're trying to "revive" Jumpluff (which could be revived if we could stop fretting over Claydol). And no, I really can't see how they work together. They just clash.
 
Creative doesn't count if it makes a bad deck. KGL and Rhyperior would be slow. Not to mention that the cards don't even work together. they both discard cards from your deck. that does not make them have synergy. If you still don't grasp how they go together... it's been explained in detail 4 times. I like Crobat, but it seems a bit inconsistent, which is why I say go straight Kingdra. In the end, it's what you are best at and most comfortable with playing.
 
6-Dimension said:
Creative doesn't count if it makes a bad deck. KGL and Rhyperior would be slow. Not to mention that the cards don't even work together. they both discard cards from your deck. that does not make them have synergy. If you still don't grasp how they go together... it's been explained in detail 4 times. I like Crobat, but it seems a bit inconsistent, which is why I say go straight Kingdra. In the end, it's what you are best at and most comfortable with playing.

I wasn't going to make KGL/Rhypherior, I was just tinkering with the idea. I know it's slow. They really just don't work together, IMO, and it's extremely slow (like almost slower than my idea, and that deck will never make it out there).
 
kingdra prime with blastoise would make a good deck.
awesome snipe damage all around. plus blastoise can snipe off any luxrays before your opponent lvls up
 
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