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Help me with my first deck. Cinccino - Zoroark - Samurott

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WildAbra

Aspiring Trainer
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I started collecting about a month ago and want to start playing competitively and have just constructed my first competitive deck and I need EVERY piece of advice I can get.

4-4 Cinccino
2-2 Zoroark
3-2-3 Ability Samurott
1 Cleffa
1 Tyrouge

22 Pokes

4 DCE
4 Special Dark
4 Water

12 Energy

4 Sages
4 Junk Arm
4 PONT
2 Junifer
2 Rare Candy
1 Lost Remover
3 Poke Communication
3 Dual Ball
3 Poke Reversal

26 Trainers

Basically my main goal is to setup quick with Cinccino and fill up my bench so I can get a constant 100 damage going, Zoroark is the standard partner for Cinccino, and since I know that Emboar decks are popular I feel Samurott adds a good counter and is also is tougher kill than the other pokes in my deck.
 
RE: Need help with first deck.

-4 sages (just not that great)
-1 lost remover
-2 juniper (looks like you cant sacrifice most things)
+4 {W} (for this deck youre gonna need more than 4)
+1 rare candy (need 3 at least)
+2 collector (helps setup)
and consider pichu as a starter and using more daul ball and reversal

~fly_ray
 
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You take out almost all of my draw support and my lost remover, which helps slow down machamps setup, to add more water energy which I don't think I need. Samurott is there to deal with emboar decks and donphan which 1 can me one shotted with with no water energy and the other with only 1 attached. I'm not a fan of collector as it trainer blocks me so I prefer dual balls and more draw support cards. I agree that sages isn't great but have been told it can work well in conjuction with junk arm which also lets me recycle dual balls or reversals. I do agree that I need one more of reversal and dual ball so maybe take out 2 sages or a poke communication and a sage.
 
RE: Need help with first deck. (Needs main Pokemon and division in thread title)

WildAbra said:
You take out almost all of my draw support and my lost remover, which helps slow down machamps setup, to add more water energy which I don't think I need. Samurott is there to deal with emboar decks and donphan which 1 can me one shotted with with no water energy and the other with only 1 attached. I'm not a fan of collector as it trainer blocks me so I prefer dual balls and more draw support cards. I agree that sages isn't great but have been told it can work well in conjuction with junk arm which also lets me recycle dual balls or reversals. I do agree that I need one more of reversal and dual ball so maybe take out 2 sages or a poke communication and a sage.
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I suggest you don't listen to that guy as i noticed he considers pichu as starter which is bad, just lets opponent to setup faster aswell. take out 2 Junk arms since you don't need that many and add in 2 collectors. otherwise the deck is pretty okay.

To all others that give suggestions: Cleffa is the best starter, you cannot disagree cus it doesn't require energy like many other suggested starters and it's sleep blocks damage from most pokemons.
 
RE: Need help with first deck. (Needs main Pokemon and division in thread title)

Thank you, I do find that junk arm has been a really bad early draw and reducing the count would help with that, 2 collector might be fine but now I feel I have A LOT of supporter cards (12 seems like a lot to me but I'm new so tell me if I'm wrong) and would droping a sages and a poke communication to add a dual ball and reversal be helpful or useless?
 
RE: Help me with my first deck. Cinccino - Zoroark - Samurott (Masters division)

The deck looks really good. The only thing is that I would take out 1 Sages Training, because that is good early game, but late game you tend to discard important stuff.
And 4 Junk Arm is extremely overkill, and you look like you don't need to reuse that many trainers. So take out 2 of those. And I find that Collector is more consistent than Dual Ball, especially for setup.

-1 Sage's Training
-2 Junk Arm
-3 Dual Ball

+1 Water Energy (for consistency)
+2 Plus Power (this helps with Reshiram, Zekrom, Fire stuff that Samurott can't one-shot, and Cinccinno in general)
+3 Collector

This is all I got. Your deck looks better than what I could do when I first started.
 
RE: Need help with first deck. (Needs main Pokemon and division in thread title)

WildAbra said:
Thank you, I do find that junk arm has been a really bad early draw and reducing the count would help with that, 2 collector might be fine but now I feel I have A LOT of supporter cards (12 seems like a lot to me but I'm new so tell me if I'm wrong) and would droping a sages and a poke communication to add a dual ball and reversal be helpful or useless?
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Yeah i think you should drop 2 sages for 1 more candy and 1 more communication. there's rarely "too many supporters". Especially soon when beartic and catcher are released. most likely vileplume becomes more common. :D
 
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