Discussion Hidden Fates Partial Set List

MasterGallade said:
Well since Hidden Fates is probably my most hyped set EVER, I made a predictive set list while at work after the reveal of the first English cards from the set earlier :D

The SV subset was pretty easy, no surprises there - but the main set is a little tricky. I assumed we'd be getting all the new cards from the Brock/Misty Trainer Battle Decks since those still haven't been brought over and it seems like a good opportunity with all the Gen 1 GXs already included lol but even then there's still empty spots, especially in the Trainers

(Bold cards are 100% confirmed)

01 Caterpie
02 Metapod
03 Butterfree
04 Scyther
05 Pinsir-GX
06 Dhelmise
07 Charmander
08 Charmeleon
09 Charizard-GX
10 Magmar
11 Salandit
12 Salazzle
13 Psyduck
14 Staryu
15 Starmie-GX
16 Magikarp
17 Gyarados-GX
18 Lapras
19 Pyukumuku
20 Pikachu
21 Raichu-GX
22 Voltorb
23 Electrode
24 Togedemaru
25 Ekans
26 Ekans
27 Arbok
28 Koffing
29 Weezing
30 Jynx
31 Mewtwo-GX
32 Mew
33 Mareanie
34 Toxapex
35 Geodude
36 Graveler
37 Golem
38 Onix-GX
39 Clefairy
40 Clefable
41 Jigglypuff
42 Wigglytuff-GX
43 Mr. Mime
44 Moltres & Zapdos & Articuno-GX
45 Farfetch’d
46 Chansey
47 Kangaskhan
48 Eevee
49 Snorlax
50 Igglybuff
51
52
53 Brock’s Grit
54 Brock’s Pewter City Gym
55 Brock’s Training
56 Dragonium Z
57 Erika
58 Jessie & James
59 Misty’s Cerulean City Gym
60 Misty’s Determination
61 Misty’s Water Manipulation
62 Pokemon Center Lady
63
64
65
66 Moltres & Zapdos & Articuno-GX FA
67 Giovanni's Exile FA
68 Jessie & James FA
69 Moltres & Zapdos & Articuno-GX FA (RR)

SV01 Scyther
SV02 Rowlet
SV03 Dartrix
SV04 Wimpod
SV05 Pheromosa
SV06 Charmander
SV07 Charmeleon
SV08 Alolan Vulpix
SV09 Wooper
SV10 Quagsire
SV11 Froakie
SV12 Frogadier
SV13 Voltorb
SV14 Xurkitree
SV15 Seviper
SV16 Shuppet
SV17 Inkay
SV18 Malamar
SV19 Poipole
SV20 Sudowoodo
SV21 Riolu
SV22 Lucario
SV23 Rockruff
SV24 Buzzwole
SV25 Zorua
SV26 Guzzlord
SV27 Magnemite
SV28 Magneton
SV29 Magnezone
SV30 Beldum
SV31 Metang
SV32 Celesteela
SV33 Kartana
SV34 Ralts
SV35 Kirlia
SV36 Diancie
SV37 Altaria
SV38 Gible
SV39 Gabite
SV40 Garchomp
SV41 Eevee
SV42 Swablu
SV43 Noibat
SV44 Oranguru
SV45 Type: Null
SV46 Leafeon-GX
SV47 Decidueye-GX
SV48 Golisopod-GX
SV49 Charizard-GX
SV50 Ho-Oh-GX
SV51 Reshiram-GX
SV52 Turtonator-GX
SV53 Alolan Ninetales-GX
SV54 Articuno-GX
SV55 Glaceon-GX
SV56 Greninja-GX
SV57 Electrode-GX
SV58 Xurkitree-GX
SV59 Mewtwo-GX
SV60 Espeon-GX
SV61 Banette-GX
SV62 Nihilego-GX
SV63 Naganadel-GX
SV64 Lucario-GX
SV65 Zygarde-GX
SV66 Lycanroc-GX (Midnight)
SV67 Lycanroc-GX (Dusk)
SV68 Buzzwole-GX
SV69 Umbreon-GX
SV70 Darkrai-GX
SV71 Guzzlord-GX
SV72 Scizor-GX
SV73 Kartana-GX
SV74 Stakataka-GX
SV75 Gardevoir-GX
SV76 Sylveon-GX
SV77 Altaria-GX
SV78 Noivern-GX
SV79 Silvally-GX
SV80 Drampa-GX
SV81 Aether Foundation Employee FA
SV82 Cynthia FA
SV83 Fisherman FA
SV84 Guzma FA
SV85 Hiker FA
SV86 Lady FA
SV87 Aether Paradise Conservation Area FA
SV88 Brooklet Hill FA
SV89 Mt. Coronet FA
SV90 Shrine of Punishment FA
SV91 Tapu Bulu GX FA (Gold)
SV92 Tapu Fini GX FA (Gold)
SV93 Tapu Koko GX FA (Gold)
SV94 Tapu Lele GX FA (Gold)
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Dhelmise, Salandit (fire), Salazzle (fire), Pyukumuku, Mareanie, Toxapex will be at the Unified Minds set.. We need to update.
I would put Jolteon and Vaporeon on this.
 
Now that the Unified Minds setlist has been revealed, I feel a lot better about sharing a prospective Hidden Fates setlist:

  1. Caterpie
  2. Metapod
  3. Butterfree
  4. Paras
  5. Scyther
  6. Pinsir-GX
  7. Charmander
  8. Charmeleon
  9. Charizard-GX
  10. Magmar
  11. Psyduck
  12. Slowpoke
  13. Staryu
  14. Starmie-GX
  15. Magikarp
  16. Gyarados-GX
  17. Lapras
  18. Vaporeon
  19. Pikachu
  20. Raichu-GX
  21. Voltorb
  22. Electrode
  23. Jolteon
  24. Zapdos
  25. Ekans
  26. Ekans
  27. Arbok
  28. Koffing
  29. Weezing
  30. Jynx
  31. Mewtwo-GX
  32. Mew
  33. Geodude
  34. Graveler
  35. Golem
  36. Onix-GX
  37. Cubone
  38. Clefairy
  39. Clefairy
  40. Clefable
  41. Jigglypuff
  42. Wigglytuff-GX
  43. Mr. Mime
  44. Moltres & Zapdos & Articuno-GX
  45. Farfetch'd
  46. Chansey
  47. Kangaskhan
  48. Eevee (Japanese Forbidden Light print)
  49. Eevee
  50. Snorlax
  51. Bill's Analysis
  52. Blaine's Last Stand
  53. Brock's Grit
  54. Brock's Pewter City Gym
  55. Brock's Training
  56. Erika's Hospitality
  57. Giovanni's Exile
  58. Jessie & James
  59. Koga's Trap
  60. Lt. Surge's Strategy
  61. Misty's Cerulean City Gym
  62. Misty's Determination
  63. Misty's Water Manipulation
  64. Pokemon Center Lady
  65. Sabrina's Suggestion
  66. Moltres & Zapdos & Articuno-GX (FA)
  67. Giovanni's Exile (FA)
  68. Jessie & James (FA) (Last card in set)
  69. Moltres & Zapdos & Articuno-GX (RR)

The Shiny Vault subsection is straightforward, and my list is absolutely no different than the others that have been shared so far, but I'll include it for the sake of completion:

Scyther SV1
Rowlet SV2
Dartrix SV3
Wimpod SV4
Pheromosa SV5
Charmander SV6
Charmeleon SV7
Alolan Vulpix SV8
Wooper SV9
Quagsire SV10
Froakie SV11
Frogadier SV12
Voltorb SV13
Xurkitree SV14
Seviper SV15
Shuppet SV16
Inkay SV17
Malamar SV18
Poipole SV19
Sudowoodo SV20
Riolu SV21
Lucario SV22
Rockruff SV23
Buzzwole SV24
Zorua SV25
Guzzlord SV26
Magnemite SV27
Magneton SV28
Magnezone SV29
Beldum SV30
Metang SV31
Celesteela SV32
Kartana SV33
Ralts SV34
Kirlia SV35
Diancie SV36
Altaria SV37
Gible SV38
Gabite SV39
Garchomp SV40
Eevee SV41
Swablu SV42
Noibat SV43
Oranguru SV44
Type: Null SV45
Leafeon-GX SV46
Decidueye-GX SV47
Golisopod-GX SV48
Charizard-GX SV49
Ho-Oh-GX SV50
Reshiram-GX SV51
Turtonator-GX SV52
Alolan Ninetales-GX SV53
Articuno-GX SV54
Glaceon-GX SV55
Greninja-GX SV56
Electrode-GX SV57
Xurkitree-GX SV58
Mewtwo-GX SV59
Espeon-GX SV60
Banette-GX SV61
Nihilego-GX SV62
Naganadel-GX SV63
Lucario-GX SV64
Zygarde-GX SV65
Lycanroc-GX SV66
Lycanroc-GX SV67
Buzzwole-GX SV68
Umbreon-GX SV69
Darkrai-GX SV70
Guzzlord-GX SV71
Scizor-GX SV72
Kartana-GX SV73
Stakataka-GX SV74
Gardevoir-GX SV75
Sylveon-GX SV76
Altaria-GX SV77
Noivern-GX SV78
Silvally-GX SV79
Drampa-GX SV80
Aether Foundation Employee SV81
Cynthia SV82
Fisherman SV83
Guzma SV84
Hiker SV85
Lady SV86
Aether Paradise Conservation Area SV87
Brooklet Hill SV88
Mt. Coronet SV89
Shrine of Punishment SV90
Tapu Bulu-GX SV91
Tapu Fini-GX SV92
Tapu Koko-GX SV93
Tapu Lele-GX SV94
 
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Updated my setlist by removing what's confirmed to be in Unified Minds, then added Chespin/Litten/Inkay, Vaporeon, and Jolteon Promos plus the most likely reprint Trainers from the Family Box Set as Timmony has added~

I still think Staryu is more likely over Alolan Vulpix, even though I know they've put a Stage 1 GX without its Basic form in sets before, those Vulpix promos are so old that I doubt they would randomly show up in here lol I'm still not confident they'll even bring over the Chespin/Litten/Inkay trio, as badly as we want them ;_;

#38 really could be either the Clefairy Gym Promo or that random Rhydon from the Japanese Brock deck lol
 
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MasterGallade said:
I still think Staryu is more likely over Alolan Vulpix, even though I know they've put a Stage 1 GX without its Basic form in sets before, those Vulpix promos are so old that I doubt they would randomly show up in here lol I'm still not confident they'll even bring over the Chespin/Litten/Inkay trio, as badly as we want them ;_;
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I kinda thought the same, and then I remembered the Ash vs. Team Rocket deck thing, so I added some of the cards from that to my set list, and then I added some of the probably reprinted Trainers! :D
 
First Hidden Fates opening is up on Youtube. Here's what I noted from the main set as I uploaded all my notes to Bulbapedia:
1/68 Caterpie Grass Common
3/68 Butterfree Grass Rare
4/68 Paras Grass Common
5/68 Scyther Grass Uncommon
6/68 PinsirGX Grass Ultra-Rare Rare
7/68 Charmander Fire Common
8/68 Charmeleon Fire Uncommon
9/68 CharizardGX Fire Ultra-Rare Rare
10/68 Magmar Fire Uncommon
11/68 Psyduck Water Common
12/68 Slowpoke Water Common
13/68 Staryu Water Common
14/68 StarmieGX Water Ultra-Rare Rare
15/68 Magikarp Water Common
16/68 GyaradosGX Water Ultra-Rare Rare
17/68 Lapras Water Rare
19/68 Pikachu Lightning Common
21/68 Voltorb Lightning Common
26/68 Ekans Psychic Common
27/68 Arbok Psychic Rare
28/68 Koffing Psychic Common
29/68 Weezing Psychic Rare
30/68 Jynx Psychic Uncommon
31/68 MewtwoGX Psychic Ultra-Rare Rare
32/68 Mew Psychic Rare
33/68 Geodude Fighting Common
34/68 Graveler Fighting Uncommon
35/68 Golem Fighting Rare
37/68 Cubone Fighting Common
38/68 Clefairy Fairy Common
39/68 Clefairy Fairy Common
40/68 Clefable Fairy Rare
41/68 Jigglypuff Fairy Common
44/68 Moltres & Zapdos & ArticunoTag Team GX Colorless Ultra-Rare Rare
45/68 Farfetch'd Colorless Uncommon
46/68 Chansey Colorless Uncommon
49/68 Eevee Colorless Common
51/68 Bill's Analysis Su Uncommon
53/68 Brock's Grit Su Uncommon
54/68 Brock's Pewter Gym St Uncommon
55/68 Brock's Training Su Uncommon
56/68 Erika's Hospitality Su Rare
57/68 Giovanni's Exile Su Uncommon
58/68 Jessie & James Su Rare Holo
59/68 Koga's Trap Su Uncommon
60/68 Lt. Surge's Strategy Su Uncommon
61/68 Misty's Cerulean City Gym St Uncommon
62/68 Misty's Determination Su Uncommon
64/68 Pokémon Center Lady Su Uncommon

So basically it's the Family Box, leftover new cards from the Brock and Misty decks, some promos and reprints of Kanto supporters. Paras, Zapdos and the second Clefairy are the SM-P promos I caught. I'm guessing Sabrina's Suggestion could be after Pokemon Center Lady and Blaine could be #52 because every other Kanto Gym Leader is here. (#63 would presumably be Misty's Water Manipulation.)

The Shiny Vault cards the guy in the video pulled were:
13 - Voltorb
14 - Xurkitree
18 - Malamar
28 - Magneton
32 - Celesteela
43 - Noibat
57 - Electrode GX FA
82 - Cynthia FA

So nothing this thread hadn't already clocked.
 
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I made my post here just as WPM was making his setlist last night, we used the same Youtube opening as our reference. I agree with his common sense predictions for the unconfirmed cards in this instance.
 
Updated my list with everything Frost pointed out from the first unboxing video, including Blaine's Last Stand and Sabrina's Suggestion reprints to complete the Kanto Gym Leaders - also noticed that a Zapdos holo is #24 so that's cool :D

I really have no idea what #48 could be, unless it's just another Eevee lol poor Igglybuff ;_;
 
It's pretty much locked into being an Eevee card based on it being a Colorless Pokemon between Kangaskhan and Eevee in the dex, the only real question is which Eevee.

I'm guessing the Japanese Forbidden Light Eevee that we never got in English, because we're probably getting Forbidden Light JP's Lady full art in Shiny Vault as well. It's an alt art of Ultra Prism Eevee just like Hidden Fates Eevee #49 is, and the two Unified Minds Litwick cards prove they're not against having the same common card in a set twice.
 
the Japanese Friendly Shop Eevee promo has been confirmed to be #48 and is a HOLO, what a pleasant surprise haha
 
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