MegaBeedrill said:
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Anyway, what Leaf_Range isn't really understand from my perspective, is where the franchise is going. You're using a bunch of examples from gen 1, when most of pokemon had it's toll on controversal elements and rustled religious and animal based groups. From that gen onward we've noticed a much more careful approach with how they handled things. Since the porygon instance, we've never seen the porygon line in the anime again. From the controversy with kadabra, we've never seen his appearence or similar lore in future installments. Even registeel's sprite in gen 4 had to get changed due to a pose.. which is pretty extreme when it wasn't that big of a deal.
The thing is since gen 1, pokemon never gave us anything to complain about.. banette, arceus, giratina, and similar isn't necessarly advertised and shouted in the games or in media, Voodoo, God, and Satan.. and their appearences certainly do not justify that they are either of those, you can easily mistake them for something else. We never had an issue with any controversal designs in cards, anime flashing lights (#blamepikachu), and animal abuse was never really a popular topic. Fast forward several years of peace and quiet, now we're introducing Hoopa-U, which might stir something up again in the franchise.. considering it's going to be on the cover of pretty much all merchandise until volcanion and zygarde become the next big thing... if registeel and kadabra stirred up that much back then in their little appearences, what is Hoopa-U who's going to be on everything going to do? I may be making this seem like a bigger deal than it actually is, but it's just food for thought. Not trying to prove or argue anything, just my opinion.
I've mentioned Gen. VI main trio but you said they were just animals, I got examples from gen. I and you say they are outdated because it was common back then to cause discussion and after that GF didn't gave "us" reason to worry. Well, back then it was a novelty so there's more arguing to be expected from that time (not to mention that it's not my fault that some lunatics get tired of banging against a wall because, let's face it, we're talking about a game and one that like others, has an age rating!) but I'l play along and give some examples of what could havd gotten GF into trouble by religious fanatics:
Gen. II - Misdreavus, Natu family, Murkrow: withcraft, spirits, mysticism and again witches and crows related to dark magic.
Gen. III - Shiftry, Claydol, Banette, Dusclops, Absol, Glalie, Beldum line, Registeel, Deoxys, Jirachi: Crow tengu, voodoo and/or taoism, Grim reaper and look alike, Oni, fusion, extraterrestrial life.
Gen. IV: Misdreavus, Drifloon, Honchkrow, Spiritomb, Dusknoir, Froslass, Darkrai, Arceus: witchcraft, ghosts kidnaping children, dark magic, devilish ghosts, ghosts comunication, ghost tales, a little nod to Incubus and oh, the notion that the Universe was created from an egg!
Gen. V: Elgyem, Kyurem, Gothitelle, Hydreigon, Golurk - extraterrestrial life, divination, evil dragons and Golems.
In all generations except II there were fossils and I don't know the current stance of religions regarding fossils, but it says something about God's previous children!
In all generations we had Pokémon inspired or representations of concepts, myths and tales from different religions and beliefs. Even so they still made these, Giratina was the mascot of it's own single game despite looking like something that might come out of Hell and with wings like they were made of dark matter with red claws perhaps from the blood of its victims. In movies Legendary Pokémon often go on a rampage by just seeing each other, violence galore and now Hoopa.U is the root of all evil and a novelty.
scattered mind said:
Maserati777 said:
I think there's a couple reasons Hoopa Unbound looks like a Yu Gi Oh character as opposed to a Pokemon.
1. Floating arms, I don't remember any Pokemon in the past having parts of their body orbiting around them. Or controlled telepathically. To me every Pokemon, even Pokemon that were considered gods were still just one being. I'm not sure if any Yu Gi Oh monsters have this feature but it's definitely different for Pokemon.
2. Hoopa Unbound has a permanent angry face, up until now I can't think of any Pokemon to have a permanent angry face. A Pokemon can make an angry face when they are angry but usually they have a neutral face in their official artwork. Hoopa Unbound doesn't appear to be frowning, somehow the design on it's face makes it look like it's angry all the time. I haven't read any spoilers so I don't know if Hoopa is a villain in this movie.
1. Haunter Exeggcute
2.Gyarados Crobat
Add Hydreigon to the 2nd! Oh, and while not angy, some certainly look devilish, like Malamar.