Discussion How Many New Pokémon Do You Think Will be in Sun & Moon?

Bolt the Cat said:
42. Fossil #1- Rock/??? (possibly Rock/Normal, Rock/Electric, Rock/Poison, or Rock/Ghost)
43. Fossil #1's evolution- Rock/??? (possibly Rock/Normal, Rock/Electric, Rock/Poison, or Rock/Ghost)
44. Fossil #2- Rock/??? (possibly Rock/Normal, Rock/Electric, Rock/Poison, or Rock/Ghost)
45. Fossil #2's evolution- Rock/??? (possibly Rock/Normal, Rock/Electric, Rock/Poison, or Rock/Ghost)
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the fossil-business has gotten really stale in my view.. it's 2 fossils with 2 stages every time since... gen3, and gen2 only didn't have any because it was essentially gen1-part2, and gen1 also had a third 1-stage fossil.

I want ANY CHANGE to the fossil formula please.
Like, change in number:
-only 1 fossil rather than 2
-a group of 3 fossils that you choose between like starters!
Change in number of stages:
-1 stage like Aerodactyl obviously, starting strong off the bat
-3 stages fossil, since we don't have one so far at all (or heck, make a oseudo-legendary be a fossil as well)

or make it 2 fossils, but not counerpart, one being a single-stage or a weaker fossil you get early in the game, and the other being a 3 stage with the highest stats of a fossil Pokémon so far (well ignoring Archeops' special stat distribution that makes up for it ability).. don't get me wrong, they've all been interesting so far design-wise and fitting as pairs, but I'd love some changes like these to spice it up.
 
pokemon64 said:
This needs to be updated
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Here's what we have so far. @yammark feel free to add the list to the OP if you want :)

1. Rowlet
2. (Evolution)
3. (Final)
4. Litten
5. (Evolution)
6. (Final)
7. Popplio
8. (Evolution)
9. (Final)
10. Rockruff
11. Lycanroc
12. Komala
13. Pikipek
14. (Evolution)
15. (Final)
16. Yungoos
17. Gumshoos
18. Grubbin
19. Charjabug
20. Vikavolt
21. Drampa
22. Bruxish
23. Cutiefly
24. (Evolution)
25. Togedemaru
26. Salandid
27. Stufful
28. Bewear
29. Mimikyu
30. Passimian
31. Oranguru
32. Bounsweet
33. Comfey
34. Mudbray
35. Mudsdale
36. Wimpod
37. Fomantis
38. Lurantis
39. Minior
40. Oricorio
41. Morelull
42. Pyukumuku
43. Wishiwashi
44. Crabrawler
45. Sandygast
46. Palossand
47. Turtonator
48. Jangmo-o
49. Type: Null
50. Tapu Koko
51. Solgaleo
52. Lunala
53. Magearna

Alolan Formes:
Marowak
Meowth
(Persian)
Raichu
Vulpix
Ninetales
Sandshrew
Sandslash
Exeggutor
Rattata
Raticate

Ultra Beasts:
UB-01
UB-02 Absorption
UB-02 Beauty
 
53 Pokemon revealed. If October 4th is gonna be a August 1st style news dump like people are saying, then I'd expect 8 more Pokemon, a couple new features, and 4-5 more Alolan forms. I'm expecting to see 80-90 Pokemon this generation.
 
Another updated list! Once again @yammark feel free to add this to the OP if you want :)

1. Rowlet
2. Dartrix
3. (Final)
4. Litten
5. Torracat
6. (Final)
7. Popplio
8. Brionne
9. (Final)
10. Rockruff
11. Lycanroc
12. Komala
13. Pikipek
14. (Evolution)
15. (Final)
16. Yungoos
17. Gumshoos
18. Grubbin
19. Charjabug
20. Vikavolt
21. Drampa
22. Bruxish
23. Cutiefly
24. Ribombee
25. Togedemaru
26. Salandit
27. Stufful
28. Bewear
29. Mimikyu
30. Passimian
31. Oranguru
32. Bounsweet
33. Steenee
34. Tsareena
35. Comfey
36. Mudbray
37. Mudsdale
38. Wimpod
39. Fomantis
40. Lurantis
41. Minior
42. Oricorio
43. Morelull
44. Pyukumuku
45. Wishiwashi
46. Crabrawler
47. Sandygast
48. Palossand
49. Turtonator
50. Jangmo-o
51. Hakamo-o
52. Kommo-o
53. Type: Null
54. Silvally
55. Tapu Koko
56. Solgaleo
57. Lunala
58. Magearna

Alolan Formes:
Al1. Marowak
Al2. Meowth
Al3. (Persian)
Al4. Raichu
Al5. Vulpix
Al6. Ninetales
Al7. Sandshrew
Al8. Sandslash
Al9. Exeggutor
Al10. Rattata
Al11. Raticate
Al12. Grimer
Al13. Muk

Ultra Beasts:
UB-01
UB-02 Absorption
UB-02 Beauty
 
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steffenka said:
Another updated list! Once again @yammark feel free to add this to the OP if you want :)

1. Rowlet
2. (Evolution)
3. (Final)
4. Litten
5. (Evolution)
6. (Final)
7. Popplio
8. (Evolution)
9. (Final)
10. Rockruff
11. Lycanroc
12. Komala
13. Pikipek
14. (Evolution)
15. (Final)
16. Yungoos
17. Gumshoos
18. Grubbin
19. Charjabug
20. Vikavolt
21. Drampa
22. Bruxish
23. Cutiefly
24. Ribombee
25. Togedemaru
26. Salandid
27. Stufful
28. Bewear
29. Mimikyu
30. Passimian
31. Oranguru
32. Bounsweet
33. Steenee
34. Tsareena
35. Comfey
36. Mudbray
37. Mudsdale
38. Wimpod
39. Fomantis
40. Lurantis
41. Minior
42. Oricorio
43. Morelull
44. Pyukumuku
45. Wishiwashi
46. Crabrawler
47. Sandygast
48. Palossand
49. Turtonator
50. Jangmo-o
51. Hakamo-o
52. Kommo-o
49. Type: Null
50. Silvally
51. Tapu Koko
52. Solgaleo
53. Lunala
54. Magearna

Alolan Formes:
Al1. Marowak
Al2. Meowth
Al3. (Persian)
Al4. Raichu
Al5. Vulpix
Al6. Ninetales
Al7. Sandshrew
Al8. Sandslash
Al9. Exeggutor
Al10. Rattata
Al11. Raticate
Al12. Grimer
Al13. Muk

Ultra Beasts:
UB-01
UB-02 Absorption
UB-02 Beauty
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I'm one of those people who thinks the way of how Alolan forms are in their own way new Pokémon, so I'll say there are 67 revealed Pokémon so far, 3 Ultra Beasts, making the total at exactly 70. My bet is still around 90-110 Pokémon this generation, and it probably won't change.
 
I really hope it's more than we got in XY, but after the TCG report, I'm starting loose hope):
 
Lord o da rings said:
I'm one of those people who thinks the way of how Alolan forms are in their own way new Pokémon, so I'll say there are 67 revealed Pokémon so far, 3 Ultra Beasts, making the total at exactly 70. My bet is still around 90-110 Pokémon this generation, and it probably won't change.
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Yeah, me two. These Alolan forms are going to work very different from there original forms, and look pretty great too so counting them as new Pokemon seems legit!

Still hoping to see some more ''completely new Pokemon'' though, because the game is only 1 month away.. Would like to see some more surprises like the already mentioned 3 stage fossils or.. anything. A badass Dolphin Pokemon is still missing too. This is an island generation right..? More Water types please!
 
Apparently someone who "leaked" Silvally's name ("silvsomething") mentioned there are 80 new Pokémon. Would be rather disappointing, but it does seem as if Gamefreak is slowing down on new dex numbers in favor of forms (Mega Evolutions, Alola forms, Oricorio/Lycanroc). My guess is they want to wait until Gen X to hit 1000.
 
The 1000th Pokémon will be called Ruasablub

Only one month until the games are released. They may not even surpass the number of Pokémon introduced in XY, I doubt it. And I'll probably get a little annoyed if people say ''but we have all these Alolan Pokémon''
 
garbodorable said:
Just 30 more official reveals and we'll reach 800 pokemon. Come on GameFreak!
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30? I only count 26... 21 if you count the unrevealed starter final forms and Pikipek's confirmed double evolutions... or wait, no, 20 if you count the recently leaked mystery Pokemon.

At this rate I'm totally expecting them to hit 800 this generation... so, I guess I'm betting at least 20 more have yet to be revealed.

steffenka said:
Another updated list! Once again @yammark feel free to add this to the OP if you want :)

1. Rowlet
2. Dartrix
3. (Final)
4. Litten
5. Torracat
6. (Final)
7. Popplio
8. Brionne
9. (Final)
10. Rockruff
11. Lycanroc
12. Komala
13. Pikipek
14. (Evolution)
15. (Final)
16. Yungoos
17. Gumshoos
18. Grubbin
19. Charjabug
20. Vikavolt
21. Drampa
22. Bruxish
23. Cutiefly
24. Ribombee
25. Togedemaru
26. Salandid
27. Stufful
28. Bewear
29. Mimikyu
30. Passimian
31. Oranguru
32. Bounsweet
33. Steenee
34. Tsareena
35. Comfey
36. Mudbray
37. Mudsdale
38. Wimpod
39. Fomantis
40. Lurantis
41. Minior
42. Oricorio
43. Morelull
44. Pyukumuku
45. Wishiwashi
46. Crabrawler
47. Sandygast
48. Palossand
49. Turtonator
50. Jangmo-o
51. Hakamo-o
52. Kommo-o
49. Type: Null
50. Silvally
51. Tapu Koko
52. Solgaleo
53. Lunala
54. Magearna

Alolan Formes:
Al1. Marowak
Al2. Meowth
Al3. (Persian)
Al4. Raichu
Al5. Vulpix
Al6. Ninetales
Al7. Sandshrew
Al8. Sandslash
Al9. Exeggutor
Al10. Rattata
Al11. Raticate
Al12. Grimer
Al13. Muk

Ultra Beasts:
UB-01
UB-02 Absorption
UB-02 Beauty
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You might want to double check your list there...

You go from 52. with Kommo-o to 49. with Type: Null. Also, you misspelled Salandit.
 
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If my sources are correct, (and my counting skills as well), it's 84 new Pokemon, including Ultra Beasts.. To me it seems the Ultra Beasts are actual Pokemon, but perhaps not, in which case the number would be somewhat lower. Still a lot better then Gen 6 though!
 
After datamine demo leak . So chinese leak is correct . They said "more than XY but not by much of New Pokemon" . We can't reach 100 new Pokemon again . Not to say we don't get any Fossil Pokemon .
 
Isn't the datamine incomplete as of now like not every sprite is in the demo but they could still exist. I think they're looking at it reaching 800 total but we dont know the specifics? I'm not sure how datamining works exactly.
 
Gruffling said:
Isn't the datamine incomplete as of now like not every sprite is in the demo but they could still exist. I think they're looking at it reaching 800 total but we dont know the specifics? I'm not sure how datamining works exactly.
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Well, the consensus seems to be that this is really it (84). There is already a list of all new mons and I think by knowing the dex numbers of the legendaries from this gen they know that nothing would come after it (except more legendaries possibly, but that would be weird in a small gen), so I guess it's safe to say that those Chinese leaks were indeed correct. More then XY but less than the big gens.
 
TheRealBro.. said:
Well, the consensus seems to be that this is really it (84). There is already a list of all new mons and I think by knowing the dex numbers of the legendaries from this gen they know that nothing would come after it (except more legendaries possibly, but that would be weird in a small gen), so I guess it's safe to say that those Chinese leaks were indeed correct. More then XY but less than the big gens.
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There's 81 (if I can count) revealed from the datamine according to this
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvCdee6WYAAvwOE.jpg:large
so what's missing?
 
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