How TCG stole Supreme Victors

[DocRobot_K-176]

Having a metagame that is too centralized around a few decks is not very fun to play, at least for me. I didn't enjoy the season before last, when PLOX was all over the place. Having a diverse metagame gives people the opportunity to build their own deck without people's decks looking too much alike.

EX Emerald was maybe one of the worst sets released, IMO. I didn't care for the holos in that set all that much. Only a few Pokemon-ex (Medicham-ex in particular) were good cards. Since people did not have a way of knowing what was in the set before it was released, since it was released outside of Japan first, I would suspect that there were quite a few unhappy people when they spent money on pre-releases / ordered boxes in advance and were not satisfied.

 

[Amaterasu]

Having a metagame that is too centralized around a few decks is not very fun to play, at least for me. I didn't enjoy the season before last, when PLOX was all over the place. Having a diverse metagame gives people the opportunity to build their own deck without people's decks looking too much alike.

EX Emerald was maybe one of the worst sets released, IMO. I didn't care for the holos in that set all that much. Only a few Pokemon-ex (Medicham-ex in particular) were good cards. Since people did not have a way of knowing what was in the set before it was released, since it was released outside of Japan first, I would suspect that there were quite a few unhappy people when they spent money on pre-releases / ordered boxes in advance and were not satisfied.

I'm pretty sure like always, Emerald was covered by Pokebeach when it was released, though there were dozens of sites with info on the set.

I know what you're saying about PLOX, but right now this format is filled to the brim with dozens of competitive decks. Flygon, Palkia, Luxape, Blazeray, Gyarados, Beedrill, SP Variants of all shapes and sizes, Kingdra, Champ, Gengar, etc. The list goes on and quite frankly its sets like SV that prevent that list from continuing on forever.

 

[Bane]

The list goes on and quite frankly its sets like SV that prevent that list from continuing on forever.

And yet, Blaziken FB lv X has still changed up the game a bit. You'll probably see Electivire FB lv X and Staraptor FB lv X used as well. They can be game changing cards. Heavily game changing cards. Yet, we have no other cards that do anything useful, so, dang, does it fall flat.

While, I can some what understand not allowing people to go too crazy with making too many different deck types, I still would like to see more change than that. New sets are meant to bring more life into the game.

 

[Amaterasu]

And yet, Blaziken FB lv X has still changed up the game a bit. You'll probably see Electivire FB lv X and Staraptor FB lv X used as well. They can be game changing cards. Heavily game changing cards. Yet, we have no other cards that do anything useful, so, dang, does it fall flat.

While, I can some what understand not allowing people to go too crazy with making too many different deck types, I still would like to see more change than that. New sets are meant to bring more life into the game.

While I would challenge your statements about Vire and Staraptor, I feel that would lead this thread off course.

New sets are indeed meant to breathe life into the game, though not all of them rejuvenate the format as much as others. For instance, I like to think there are two types of sets. Core sets, and Backup sets. Core sets represent the metagame, what players really want, they're full of playable cards and often wreak of Tier 1 potential. Sets like this are SF, PT, RR, etc. All those sets brought new mechanics, pokemon, and trainers into the game and are probably the sets you can profit most from. Then, there are the Backup sets, these sets represent the 'leftovers' of previous sets. Though they're full of pretty much nothing, they have cards that aid combos and decks that are already in circulation. Thus, they are more of 'backups' and 'helpers' for things we've already seen. An example would be Blaziken in Blazeray, Relicanth in GeChamp, etc.

 

[dmaster]

Were none of you around when EX: Emerald was released?

Honestly, we always have a few duds here and there, it's normal. I would never expect set after set of broken metagame counters, the format would just get way too flooded to the point that we'd have 20 or so viable decks, which isn't something that's healthy for the game competitively.

Medicham Ex, Rare Candy, Scott, Battle Frontier, etc. It was a good set IMO. SV may be the worst set I've ever seen.

dmaster out.

 

[Amaterasu]

Medicham Ex, Rare Candy, Scott, Battle Frontier, etc. It was a good set IMO. SV may be the worst set I've ever seen.

dmaster out.

Cham was the only good card. Candy of course was a staple, but had been printed in several other sets beforehand. Scott and BF weren't splashable into every deck and thus they had limited uses. And saying 4 out of maybe 100+ cards made the set good is absolutely ludicrous.

 

[BlazeTK]

I have to admit, I was disappointed with this set. Only thing i cared about was Garchomp, Absol G, and Blaziken FB.


EDIT: Actually add Palmer, and the new Cyrus. Also I was happy to see the legendary bird reprints we missed when Pokemon 2000 came out.

 

[dmaster]

Cham was the only good card. Candy of course was a staple, but had been printed in several other sets beforehand. Scott and BF weren't splashable into every deck and thus they had limited uses. And saying 4 out of maybe 100+ cards made the set good is absolutely ludicrous.

Three of them were Trainers and most if not all were used in that Worlds later that year. All I can say is let's wait until next Worlds and see more than four cards from SV be in many of the decks. :] That's how I base my opinion on what was good.

dmaster out.

 

[Amaterasu]

Three of them were Trainers and most if not all were used in that Worlds later that year. All I can say is let's wait until next Worlds and see more than four cards from SV be in many of the decks. :] That's how I base my opinion on what was good.

dmaster out.

So then by this logic, the set was an absolute hit, right? Because, you know, four of the cards(some reprints) were used in decks that performed well at Worlds.

Let's say late next year World's comes around and someone wins with Blazeray/Something that incorporates one or two cards from SV. Would you then go out and buy a box of this set to hopefully open a copy or two?

 

[hockeygirl7733]

Your right. The only cards I really care about in this set are absol g, absol G lv.x, raquaza C, and raquaza C lv.x. I think that set pretty much stinks.

 

[dmaster]

So then by this logic, the set was an absolute hit, right? Because, you know, four of the cards(some reprints) were used in decks that performed well at Worlds.

Let's say late next year World's comes around and someone wins with Blazeray/Something that incorporates one or two cards from SV. Would you then go out and buy a box of this set to hopefully open a copy or two?

Nah, because Luxray is going to be in almost all of them, making RR the better set. We've already seen this in fact, so yes, buying a box of RR is a good deal, or just buy the singles.

dmaster out.