How to counter mirror with Darkrai/Hydreigon?

Diet

Diet

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I've been playtesting around, and from what I noticed, I have been having a hard time vs the mirror; for me, its always luck. I do not want to run a Terrakion because my list is packed already, but I want a way to get around the luck factor of the mirror. (For me, it's mainly luck. Since Hydreigon's very popular, I need to counter the mirror.)
Any thoughts? :D
 
Depends on what your decklist looks like. The more ways you have to get Hydreigon out quickly the better your chances are of being able to attack before them and such. Unfortunately because most Darkreigon builds are so tight on the decklist, it's difficult to justify putting a larger than 3-1-3 Deino line without sacrificing other useful Pokemon that would help the decks consistency more than just simply having Hydreigon out. The only thing I can advise is to test out different amounts of Ultra Ball or Level Ball to see what works best for you. Once again it's hard to advise much without seeing a decklist but other than that yeah it does all sort of come down to luck.
 
What I always do is this: when you have a Hydreigon and are sure your opponent can't OHKO it back, Catcher their Hydreigon and KO it with yours. This will leave them with nothing. They probably didn't even try to set-up another Hydreigon, so now you have yours and they probably won't get another one in the rest of the game. You have to get the timing right, though. If you don't do it at the right time, it can end backfiring you.
 
Reshiram EX OHKOs Hydreigons and is fantastic against a lot of other stuff. If you choose not to run it, Dragonblast is your best bet. Also, try to set up 2 Hydreigons if possible to avoid one getting KOed and you having none.
 
Also, If you use Darkrai eviolite it, that way not having the Max Potion after they hit you once isn't as much of a bad thing.
 
Roronoa Zoro said:
What I always do is this: when you have a Hydreigon and are sure your opponent can't OHKO it back, Catcher their Hydreigon and KO it with yours. This will leave them with nothing. They probably didn't even try to set-up another Hydreigon, so now you have yours and they probably won't get another one in the rest of the game. You have to get the timing right, though. If you don't do it at the right time, it can end backfiring you.
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Good players will set up two hydreigons, making your argument invalid. Test against better players, casual.
 
Zangoose said:
Good players will set up two hydreigons, making your argument invalid. Test against better players, casual.
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Well, I thought that testing VS Igor Costa and his testing group was good enough. I guess it's not?
 
Lol. Seeing him at tournaments does not equal testing with him. You post actively on pokebeach, you can't actually test with him. Im pretty cool with Gino Lombardi and Dylan LeFavour who are infinitely better players than Igor, and won worlds / nationals in actual skill based formats. Igor won on an opposing misplay, if Harrison had payed slightly more attention. Also, change your username, you're not a swordsman let alone a good player.
 
Zangoose said:
Lol. Seeing him at tournaments does not equal testing with him. You post actively on pokebeach, you can't actually test with him. Im pretty cool with Gino Lombardi and Dylan LeFavour who are infinitely better players than Igor, and won worlds / nationals in actual skill based formats. Igor won on an opposing misplay, if Harrison had payed slightly more attention. Also, change your username, you're not a swordsman let alone a good player.
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I don't just see him "once" at a tournament, I actually play games with him very often. Don't talk about what you don't know. Yeah there may be better players than him but that doesn't take the fact that he is a very good player. From the games I saw him playing at Worlds, (I saw all his Top Cut matches) he never misplayed. Sure, the format was luck based and you can see from Igor's hands that he didn't get very lucky, and don'tstart saying that his deck just wasn't consistent. While it was not as much as Harrison's, It was still very consistent and he got a lot of bad luck in his hands. And when Harrison misplayed, that just showed that Igor had a stronger mind, has he never misplayed. Also, change your username, you are not a Pokémon. And who says I am not a good player? You haven't actually seen me playing or building decks, so you can't tell that stuff without actually having facts.

And yeah they can set-up 2 Hydreigons. That's why I said in my first post "you have to get the timing right". Of course it will change when you are in the game; the situations won't ever be the same as you think, especially in this matchup where the board can be very different since the deck can use many things.

P.S: I would change my username but I can only change once a year and since I have already changed, I guess I can't.
 
Giratina EX, Reahiram EX, Dragon zewilous (yes the 80hp frail one) and your own hydreigon are the best ways to go about beating the mirror. Other than that I'd have to say the first person to get hydreigon out and attack with darkrai, will win 70% of the time :|
 
Hmm, I personally dislike greatly Giratina EX and Reshiram EX. Also, the Dragon Zweilous I personally dont like (80 HP) because its in danger of KO by 1 Energy Ray. =/
 
If you don't like Reshiram EX, Giratina EX, or the Zweilous, then use your own Hydreigon, or load up a Mewtwo EX. Unless you happen to have 2 Catchers, 2 shotting it isn't gonna cut it, and then you're wasting 2 Catchers. Not a great trade off, even with Sableye.
 
another popular way to beat the mirror, is to night spear twice and put the extra 30 on their hydreigon both times, then it's in range of a quick catcher ko by darkrai if they don't have max potion.
 
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