Oh, I don't know.
Let's say 120.
OU: Strategy How Would the Metagame be Different if...?
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Let's say 120.
Eron said:
Well, let's look at its resistances and weaknesses:
Resists: Bug½, Fairy½, Grass½ and Ice¼
Weaknesses: Ground*2, Rock*4, Water*2 and Fighting*2
Really, all it gets is a double resist to Ice, while it either gains weaknesses or loses other resists.
I'd rather see a Fire/Fairy type:
Resists: Bug¼, Fairy¼, Fire½, Grass½, Ice½, Dark½ and Fighting½
Weaknesses: Ground*2, Rock*2, Water*2 and Poison*2
Immunity: Dragon
So...basically what's going on right now anyway.PMJ said:
I see absolutely no negatives to taking away the Mega Stones then!
Stealth Rock exists.Eron said:
It would be much more threatening. Right now it only has base 80 allowing it to be used on Trick Room, but it can function just as well out of it. Modest afaik is the preferred nature even outside TR teams, and that lets it hit like a truck with Heat Wave. (I've used one in Gen 5 and...it's pretty scary, albeit frail.)
It'd go straight to Ubers.
I fixed it for you.
As someone who has used Regigigas in Doubles, I can assure you the instant it loses Slow Start it becomes the scariest Pokemon you'll ever face. It drops the bulkiest Substitutes out of any Pokemon (110/110/110) which even allows it to wait out Slow Start, and in Doubles you have things like Worry Seed and Skill Swap to cancel the wait time.
Regigigas is NOT something to be handled lightly.
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How would the metagame be different if there was a hazard that took two spins to remove (but it was reduced in effectiveness after the first spin)? Assume that for the sake of discussion, by "spin" I mean "uses of Rapid Spin or Defog".
PMJ said:
Like if each layer of spikes took a spin to remove?
How would the metagame be different if Latias became dragon/fairy and gained some new fairy moves like moonblast.
It would pick up two weaknesses and three resistances, so that's an improvement I guess. Moonblast would give it a more reliable move against dragons, being 95 power with no drawbacks, while also hitting fighting and dark types hard, which is always good. This type change would also keep Pokemon like Tyranitar from being a counter. The new weaknesses would be bad, but they aren't common attacking types, so it's not that bad, and the resistances are very useful. Fighting, dragon (immunity), and dark are common attacking types.
Edit: Just realized that had nothing to do with the metagame.
I would say that it might have a small impact, but not too much. It gets rid of the horrible psychic typing, so that makes her much more viable, but I'm not sure if she would play the same roles or not, and I don't think that really expands coverage for her any, just improves match-ups against some types. So yeah, might go up in usage, wouldn't have a huge impact, IMO.
Edit: Just realized that had nothing to do with the metagame.
I would say that it might have a small impact, but not too much. It gets rid of the horrible psychic typing, so that makes her much more viable, but I'm not sure if she would play the same roles or not, and I don't think that really expands coverage for her any, just improves match-ups against some types. So yeah, might go up in usage, wouldn't have a huge impact, IMO.
If Latias was Fairy type, it would actually have a great impact in the metagame. Just think of this: We're talking about a full immunity to Dragon, 110 Speed and respectable bulk, plus Defog and Roost. With a Dragon Immunity it would now be able to counter every single Dragon in the metagame, bar Noivern, which isn't really famous. Since it has Levitate, this also means an immunity to EQ, which means that Chomp, who can't be countered by most non-defensive fairies, would fall as well. And it still retains Dragon, which is a great offensive typing.
Equinox said:
It would be Reshiram with EQ.
How different would the meta game be if Trevenant had these Defensive Base Stats?
110 HP
100 Def
95 SpDef
Also retains its Offensive stats
110 HP
100 Def
95 SpDef
Also retains its Offensive stats
What if Shedinja has Blissey's HP stats...like Wonder Guard plus all that HP, and overall decent stats. That thing would skyrocket to a much heir tier from wherever it is now.
Eron said:
What if they combined both abilities...like you can only be hit by super effective moves, but you can't be OKOd. OP right there.
While it would be way better, it would still be vulnerable to hazards and status, and its offensive presence wouldn't be great.
Please, however, ask about possible things. Combining Sturdy and Wonder Guard is something that won't ever happen.
Please, however, ask about possible things. Combining Sturdy and Wonder Guard is something that won't ever happen.
Well in my original post I had stated what if Shedinja had the HP of a Pokemon like Blissey. With that it wouldn't even worry about hazards or status'.