If You Could Explain One Little Thing . . .

[Thebatman18]

I stopped buying pokemon cards around Firered/Leafgreen. I kept playing for a while then I just stopped completely. I look at the Diamond and Pearl and Platinum sets and notice so many things new and different like Levels and the mysterious "Delta Species". If some of you more avid players could explain what changed when D/P sets were introduced it would be very appreciated.

 

[qnetykz]

EX's were no longer being made...instead there are Lv. X pokemon

while EX pokemon were evolutions, Lv. X's are an extention of an evolutionary stage...the Delta thing was also something else that ended with the EX-era and the coming of D&P...there have been some attacks, poke-powers, and poke-bodies never before seen, but essentially the game is still the same

with the coming of HeartGold/SoulSilver the X mechanic will also be a thing of the past (once the last of the DP-PT sets rotate out that is)...so if you plan on getting back into the game, now might be a good time, there is only one remaining set to release before the HGSS sets release

 

[Thebatman18]

But what is a Delta species pokemon? And also I was looking around and found theses things called pokemon SP, what are those?

 

[CFOURCOLTSFAN]

Pokemon SP are all basics and are stronger pokemon w/ lowered HP. They are also how you can have a Toxicroak be a basic. They are all also owned by trainers.
Delta Species are basicaly no special rules except some cards target them, just like an experiment went wrong or something.

 

[Bane]

Pokemon SP are all basics and are stronger pokemon w/ lowered HP. They are also how you can have a Toxicroak be a basic. They are all also owned by trainers.
Delta Species are basicaly no special rules except some cards target them, just like an experiment went wrong or something.

They also have special trainers, supporters(I think), etc that are especially attuned for them. If you look at them without looking at the trainers and such, they would probably appear rather weak and not worth it. Some of them anyway. Some have some abilities that are more abusable because of those other cards.

 

[Amaterasu]

Pokemon SP are all basics and are stronger pokemon w/ lowered HP. They are also how you can have a Toxicroak be a basic. They are all also owned by trainers.
Delta Species are basicaly no special rules except some cards target them, just like an experiment went wrong or something.

... You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

Delta Species Pokemon were Pokemon that shared two different types, often mixed with darkness or metal as their secondary type along with what they would usually be classified as. They were symbolized by a small triangular-esque symbol by their names similar to how Pokemon EX had EX by their names. Though, on some occasions delta pokemon had only one type which was quite different than what it was supposed to be ordinarily. One example would be Gardevoir Delta EX and Tyranitar Delta EX.

The Delta Pokemon were also accompanied by the 'Holon Engine', which I won't get into as much, though they were simply trainers/supporters such as Holon Mentor, Transceiver, Farmer, etc. that worked best with Delta Species Pokemon.

Though these cards are long since banned and no longer exist in the current format.

 

[The Reaver]

While that's partially true, the main idea behind Delta Species was to assign different and "weird" types to Pokemon. For example, Gardevoir delta ex was a Fire-type, while Tyranitar delta ex was an Electric type. They also, as mentioned before, had special cards and effects that targeted them. Other than that, though they are essentially the same as any other Pokemon.

 

[Amaterasu]

While that's partially true, the main idea behind Delta Species was to assign different and "weird" types to Pokemon. For example, Gardevoir delta ex was a Fire-type, while Tyranitar delta ex was an Electric type. They also, as mentioned before, had special cards and effects that targeted them. Other than that, though they are essentially the same as any other Pokemon.

That was not the main idea of Delta Species. The first two sets of Delta consisted only of Pokemon with dual types which was the overall idea from the start, it wasn't until two sets later in Dragon Frontiers that we saw odd types on Pokemon that were never associated with said type.

 

[Bane]

... it wasn't until two sets later in Dragon Frontiers that we saw odd types on Pokemon that were never associated with said type.

And those mainly were to get more pokemon into certain types, like Fire and Electric, so they would have more cards of that type without many of them sharing the same name.

 

[Amaterasu]

And those mainly were to get more pokemon into certain types, like Fire and Electric, so they would have more cards of that type without many of them sharing the same name.

Where are all of you getting these strange ideas?

This assumption is exactly that. As well as this, Electric pokemon were extremely popular at the time(Metanite), and PCL would never create cards with random types just because they didn't have enough of a certain type. DS Pokemon were all about exploring possibilities and the set was based on an island and 'Holon'. They wanted to try something new and gave Pokemon different types that players had never seen with said Pokemon, and the sets were a success.The poster wanted to know what DS Pokemon were, so that aspect has been accomplished. Enough with these silly announcements that are based on nothing but your two cents.

 

[Bane]

Where are all of you getting these strange ideas?

This assumption is exactly that. As well as this, Electric pokemon were extremely popular at the time(Metanite), and PCL would never create cards with random types just because they didn't have enough of a certain type. DS Pokemon were all about exploring possibilities and the set was based on an island and 'Holon'. They wanted to try something new and gave Pokemon different types that players had never seen with said Pokemon, and the sets were a success.The poster wanted to know what DS Pokemon were, so that aspect has been accomplished. Enough with these silly announcements that are based on nothing but your two cents.

And what logic actually denotes our statements? It's quite obvious that their was a lack of electric and fire types |D

And what makes you think they wouldn't? :/ Out of the most types, the one's that got the most delta pokemon, from what I can remember, was fire and electric. Heck, I even remember reading about it somewhere(honestly, I can't recall where... Yeah, sorry about that) the those later sets were established that way.

Even if you DO look past what has been said, why WOULDN'T they want to try to give people more fire and electric types?

Oh, btw, I wouldn't say anything about people having "silly two cents" when all of your statements about delta pokemon were, infact, how you see it, rather then stated fact :/


Edit: taken from the Bulbapedia article on delta species pokemon

In EX Delta Species, if a Delta Species Pokémon had one of its types changed to something other than Metal, it was always either to Fire or Lightning. This is likely due to the fact that, since these two types are based upon one of the game types each, whereas others are based on more, all cards of those two types shared a single weakness among them: Water and Fighting, respectively. Thus, Fire Pokémon and Lightning Pokémon became more playable by diversifying their weaknesses. Later sets did not do this, however, and Delta Species Pokémon could be of any type.