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Is 'Delta Emerald' the TCG's XY5 Set? [6/23]
- Thread starter Water Pokémon Master
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After Phantom Gate, I expect the next set to be called OmegaRuby AlphaSapphire.
We've had TCG sets named after remakes. (e.g. FireRed LeafGreen and HeartGold SoulSilver)
I expect the trend to continue. Who knows, Japan likes to mix things up so Delta Emerald is a possible name.
We've had TCG sets named after remakes. (e.g. FireRed LeafGreen and HeartGold SoulSilver)
I expect the trend to continue. Who knows, Japan likes to mix things up so Delta Emerald is a possible name.
I feel like Delta Emerald might be the name for the Emerald Version remake.
Wow, you should write a paper with that sentence and turn it in for a grade!Patriots Fan said:
(Explain your reasoning! This is a forum, not a chat room.)
Good. I would sure hope that this is true. Because ya know... EXs have been a thing for a while... Deltas are cool
I know I've asked this before, on several such articles, but...
Why are you posting speculation on a news site? It's unprofessional and gives readers false impressions. I know I know, you stated that it's speculation and there's NO proof of this, but you should also know that won't stop people from believing it as fact anyway.
Why are you posting speculation on a news site? It's unprofessional and gives readers false impressions. I know I know, you stated that it's speculation and there's NO proof of this, but you should also know that won't stop people from believing it as fact anyway.
Skulblaka_Shur said:
I've been running my site for 11 years and have always posted things like this. I'm not going to change now just because your personal definition of "professional" is so narrow-minded. It's not like this is mindless "speculation" either, it's speculation based in facts and patterns, which is often what you have to do with this franchise.
I guess this was unprofessional too: https://pokebeach.com/2012/11/6th-generation-hints-coming-in-december-question
GadgetJax
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Water Pokémon Master said:Wow, you should write a paper with that sentence and turn it in for a grade!Patriots Fan said:
(Explain your reasoning! This is a forum, not a chat room.)
Cannot agree with you enough on the whole 'reasoning issue', though I honestly doubt that Delta Emerald will be the next set. Besides, us Americans haven't even got XY3 yet, so don't you think it's a bit too early to be talking about a name for a potential TCG set? I think Nintendo is just covering as much ground as they can, just to make sure that they have first dibs if anything like that ever does come to be... who knows, there might be a TV Special/New Series under that name... just sayin'...
Major news sites post speculation so why can't Pokebeach? It clearly states that this is speculation so people will not take it as a fact. Speculation in no way means fact. Especially when the article highlights both sides of the argument. For example:Skulblaka_Shur said:
This article gives us both sides of the argument which is a great thing and is something that major news sites sometimes fail to do. I see no problem in posting speculation when backed up by facts. Providing all the facts instead of just providing the ones that support your argument is just icing on the cake.
According to the article we didn't even have XY1 when Rising Fist was trademarked.GadgetJax said:
XY1 was released February 5, 2014.
Yeah, for Rising Fist it was trademarked 4 months before it was unofficially announced for the first time and 7 months before it was released. For Phantom Gate, it was trademarked 7 months before it was unofficially announced and 10 months before it will be released.
You aren't following tabloids and sites like 9gag, are you? I mean, that's good I guess, but still. When other sites view a pop star's newest picture as "news" and the general public accepts that as a legimate article, it's really weird you still have a problem with an actually informative, good article like this that sheds light on Pokémon's trademarking business. It's a Pokémon site, after all.Skulblaka_Shur said:
It's not like WPM is posting funny Pokémon pics (or videos) as news. And even if he starts doing that, it's his decision.
I have argued a case that this 'Delta Emerald' would more likely be a TCG set rather than a game to many of my friends and family since it was posted. I'm glad I can finally add some more to my argument so thanks for that WPM.
If the trademark turns out to be a TCG set, I would flip. Delta Species was my favorite mechanic because I had so many amazing memories of me and my friends getting so excited when one of us pulled a card that we haven't seen or when my brother would put the smack down with his Salamence Theme Deck. We even took the train into the city just to go to the Pokémon Center and buy a bunch of cards and other merch.
I think bringing back Delta Species is a fantastic idea and a great way to play with the new mechanics since it was first introduced.
One more thing, has there been any other pattern to the trademarks before Rising Fist, specifically with HGSS?
If the trademark turns out to be a TCG set, I would flip. Delta Species was my favorite mechanic because I had so many amazing memories of me and my friends getting so excited when one of us pulled a card that we haven't seen or when my brother would put the smack down with his Salamence Theme Deck. We even took the train into the city just to go to the Pokémon Center and buy a bunch of cards and other merch.
I think bringing back Delta Species is a fantastic idea and a great way to play with the new mechanics since it was first introduced.
One more thing, has there been any other pattern to the trademarks before Rising Fist, specifically with HGSS?
Water Pokémon Master said:Wow, you should write a paper with that sentence and turn it in for a grade!Patriots Fan said:
(Explain your reasoning! This is a forum, not a chat room.)
I guess I can type more, but it seems pretty clear to me why anyone would assume what I'm assuming... Omega, Alpha, Delta...???
Anyhow, Delta Emerald seems about right, considering the Ruby and Sapphire version remakes have already been labeled with Omega and Alpha.
I must add, that the Delta part of the name probably doesn't mean there'll for sure be Delta Species cards in the set... it has more to do with the (potential) game counter-part. Just my two cents.
Honestly WPM, the way you word your posts is exactly what makes it so interesting to read. Its what differs your site from all the others, and its the reason I stuck to this site when I first found it. I dont feel like Im reading the words of a robot, I feel like im reading the words of an actual human being (or even a detective at that.) The other sites don't make us think like this, its not unprofessional in the least bit. I would much rather get early possibilities than be the last to know.
ANYWAAY, aside from all of that, about the actual news. Like everyone else I didnt think much of the whole Delta Emerald trademark, except for when I was first scrolling down my facebook, saw a big picture of Rayquaza with "Delta Emerald", and my first immediate thought without reading anything else was WAT A 3RD REMAKE OMIGOD.
Then I read further and it was a mixture of disappointment/relief.
After reading this though I believe in the strong possibility of it being a new TCG set. I would love for the whole Delta thing to come back too, with all of the mis-typed cards like Electric Charizard and Psychic Flygon. Its been a while since Ive even touched the playable TCG though (no one in my town plays anymore :'() but they would still be fun to collect.
ANYWAAY, aside from all of that, about the actual news. Like everyone else I didnt think much of the whole Delta Emerald trademark, except for when I was first scrolling down my facebook, saw a big picture of Rayquaza with "Delta Emerald", and my first immediate thought without reading anything else was WAT A 3RD REMAKE OMIGOD.
Then I read further and it was a mixture of disappointment/relief.
After reading this though I believe in the strong possibility of it being a new TCG set. I would love for the whole Delta thing to come back too, with all of the mis-typed cards like Electric Charizard and Psychic Flygon. Its been a while since Ive even touched the playable TCG though (no one in my town plays anymore :'() but they would still be fun to collect.
I would be thrilled to see the return of delta species. I was around 10 or 11 years old when these sets were around, and during this time I pretty much just bought packs and threw decks together hoping to play them with friends, something I very rarely managed to do. I loved the cards in these sets. The mismatched typings and the common metal dual typing made all of the pokemon seem so cool and so strong, and this around the time I first started to buy and collect cards and I learned how to play. It took me until the Platinum era to actually go to prereleases and my local league and I wish I had the chance to play competitively with these cards. I heard the third generation of tcg wasm a great format to play in. I'm hoping that the Ruby and Sapphire remakes cause a return of delta species in the tcg so that I can get an experience similar to what I missed out on. Long live Holon!
It won't be a TCG Set. The TCG set in December will Be ORAS1 Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire... Just like every other first set for a game. I say there might just be a Delta Emerald game. There is Alpha Kyogre and Omega Groundon. Where is Delta Rayquaza ? They can't not have him. So if Delta Rayquaza is not in ORAS, DE will be coming soon.
I'm also going to jump onto the bandwagon that thinks Japan's December set will be Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire... but I'm going to take this a bit further and suggest that maybe Delta Emerald will be the following set after that (either XY6 or RS2, depending on how the sets are structured). It could still re-introduced the Delta mechanic like WPM theorizes (and which I would be totally excited for; I love the concept behind Delta species and I wish I had been active in the TCG at that time), it just wouldn't start off a new set with the mechanic (which isn't exactly knew anyway; EXes were only introduced a few sets into BW anyway).
The biggest problem with the this theory, and all the theories that speculate that the December set will be our ORAS set, is that it means we'll only have a 4 sets in the XY block, whereas 5-6 is more common (and BW had a whopping 9 + EBB), especially for a main series set. On one hand, Pokémon does seem to be releasing things earlier than they used to (legendaries revealed earlier, games coming out sooner, etc. and so forth), so that might point towards less of an attachment to the specific XY block, but we also haven't even gotten all the XY Pokémon as cards yet (*coughZygardecough*).
So, I'm not sure how reasonable my theory is. I do think that if we get an ORAS set in December a Delta Emerald set will very likely follow. If, however, Pokémon decides to keep the XY set around for a bit longer, we could see Delta Emerald before the first ORAS set, perhaps even as a bridge set that re-introduces the Delta mechanic before the ORAS set, similar to how EBB was a bridge set that introduced the idea of Stage 1/2 Pokémon released as Basic EXes.
The biggest problem with the this theory, and all the theories that speculate that the December set will be our ORAS set, is that it means we'll only have a 4 sets in the XY block, whereas 5-6 is more common (and BW had a whopping 9 + EBB), especially for a main series set. On one hand, Pokémon does seem to be releasing things earlier than they used to (legendaries revealed earlier, games coming out sooner, etc. and so forth), so that might point towards less of an attachment to the specific XY block, but we also haven't even gotten all the XY Pokémon as cards yet (*coughZygardecough*).
So, I'm not sure how reasonable my theory is. I do think that if we get an ORAS set in December a Delta Emerald set will very likely follow. If, however, Pokémon decides to keep the XY set around for a bit longer, we could see Delta Emerald before the first ORAS set, perhaps even as a bridge set that re-introduces the Delta mechanic before the ORAS set, similar to how EBB was a bridge set that introduced the idea of Stage 1/2 Pokémon released as Basic EXes.
Still kinda wish they would do something unexpected with it in the games though.
ORAS will feel so half-assed/lazy to me without the proper story told.. (since they're pretty much copy pasting grunt dialogues from RS lol).
I don't see any solution other than having a third game (which would then of course need to be very different from ORAS unlike the initial Emerald).
It's not like they could shove in the bigger climax with Rayquaza in the post-game.
But being realistic, they really might just be okay with it because remakes are just filler material or something lol
ORAS will feel so half-assed/lazy to me without the proper story told.. (since they're pretty much copy pasting grunt dialogues from RS lol).
I don't see any solution other than having a third game (which would then of course need to be very different from ORAS unlike the initial Emerald).
It's not like they could shove in the bigger climax with Rayquaza in the post-game.
But being realistic, they really might just be okay with it because remakes are just filler material or something lol