Yes, Durant is dead after DE. Heatmor will make Durant players scared because it is honestly a one card tech to an auto-win. This is similar to how whenever Cryogonal from NV came out as a Donphan counter, Donphan decreased in popularity severely. (also has to do with the fact that Tornadus gained usage of Eviolite.) Anyway, just the fact that such a card exists is enough to kill a deck.
Is Durant Dead after DE?
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TPZ said:
Aaaah, but Donphan exists in today's format, which includes both Cryogonal and Tornadus (w/ or w/o eviolite). Nobody plays Cryogonal, and it killed Donphan. Same with Heatmor. Once People stop seeing durant, it will rise again.
Wat. Crygonal didn't even see any play, it's not what killed Donphan. Kyurem is what really put the nail in the coffin for the already weakened Donphan. However, Crygonal is a good example because even though nobody played it, it still scared Donphan players off of playing that deck. I predict the same thing will happen with Heatmor, that nobody will actually play it, but Durant players will stop playing the deck in fear of it.
ZekEels pretty much killed Durant already, bring Zekrom up Active to Bolt Strike twice and then Outrage for the rest of the game. That's all you really need to do to beat Durant. Heatmor exists only as a crutch for players who have trouble against Durant.
Cinema said:
You forgot the key end to that. They'll stop playing Durant and then Heatmor will die off. Then Durant will get brought back in! lol
I've already posted about this in the Weekly Survey but I can summarize it again I guess. It will take a considerable drop in play but not because of Heatmor. Zekrom/Eels already gave it problems before and that will continue. Darkness decks will be even more prevalent and could actually give Durant a harder time. That's what will impact the playing. I have yet to see a list posted with a Heatmor in it and it throws off all the other matchups except one. For that reason, I don't see its worth.
dmaster out.
Card Slinger J said:
Everyone always says that, but somehow, Durant still wins. It isn't the easy matchup everyone always makes it out to be. Crushing Hammer hurts your set up. Rotom kills your Zekrom. They can Catcher up your Eels. Etc, but Durant was definitely not killed by ZekEels.
Durant will die after DE, but not because of Heatmor. While Heatmor makes life very, very hard for Durant, I don‘t believe any good players will run it. The reason being Heatmor is an unbelievably crappy card in any other matchup.
What WILL kill Durant is Dark.dek. Most of the deck‘s components OHKO from turn two on, and Darkrai EX makes catchering useless. Even in the unlikely case dark.dek ends up being only borderline playable, Durant just can‘t afford to have another autoloss in addition to ReshiPhlosion.
What WILL kill Durant is Dark.dek. Most of the deck‘s components OHKO from turn two on, and Darkrai EX makes catchering useless. Even in the unlikely case dark.dek ends up being only borderline playable, Durant just can‘t afford to have another autoloss in addition to ReshiPhlosion.
Durant will lose popularity at first, but it will grow again. Nobody will play Heatmor.
Personally, I find playing Durant after Heatmor comes out to be simply too risky. People say it won't be played, but there's something you're forgetting. GOOD players won't play it, but there will always be the one bad player who lost to a Durant deck once and got so mad that they started playing Heatmor in all of their decks. If you happen to get paired up with that person in round 1/2.... Good luck.
sillykyle said:
It isn't hard to beat Heatmor if you are smarter than them. You hit it once with Vice Grip, then you Mewtwo EX them.
alexmf2 said:
We are talking about the bad players who do play heatmor. They will not be good enough to set up another attacker which will probably be crushing hammered out.
What decks will really dedicate space in there deck for Heatmor? Any deck that does also have to play a good amount of {R} / Prism / Rainbow energy to not be screwed over by Lost Remover/Crushing hammer, which is alot of space to sacrifice for a low tier deck (but a decent deck nonetheless). The only deck i can realistically see teching Heatmor is CMT due to the {P} resistance forcing you to drop more energy onto Mewtwo EX, plus going aggro Tornadus is difficult when Hurricane constantly moves energy off of itself and it can be hard to maintain it for an entire game. That being said, you could argue Ruins of Alph removes the {P} resistance, but some Durant lists use Skyarrow Bridge, so that could cause problems.
Durant isn't a huge enough threat for people to get worried about and tech a Heatmor for "safety". Talk about your hard-counters though.
Durant isn't a huge enough threat for people to get worried about and tech a Heatmor for "safety". Talk about your hard-counters though.