Play it as Maxie's. That puts it into Night March, Yveltal, and possibly Vespi.
Discussion Is Marowak the End of Toad?
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I say ban it because there is not counter play options for Night March and Vespiquen decks. I rather hurt those two decks than worry about another deck trying to get supporters in the discard pile. My point was it shouldn't be too easy to get these things off. Archie and Maxie are supposed to be last ditch effort cards, like Trump Card was but was banned because of abuse. I don't know where the mindset of 'easy to play, so it must stay' comes from.
To me, these are skill-less decks that play themselves. No one likes playing against a deck where the only option is to hope the opponent draws poorly to get a win. Battle Compressor gives too much utility to far too many decks. No card should ever be 'unwanted' if its in the deck. All it does is favor bad deck design and unhealthy play styles.
The problem with expanded is it allows all copies of all cards to be played when the most dominate decks get access to other cards. Its not a matter of which format is unhealthier but I don't want a format where LaserBank is a thing behind trainer lock.
Before I start, you have said that you want both Seismitoad-EX and Battle Compressor to be banned...
These plays have been common since the time of US Nats... Also, this would create a bad format. In Standard, M Man would be useless, Yveltal XY would be very bad, and VS seekers would probably get cut for 4 Shaman-EX to make up for consistency. At that point the format would probably dissolve into Darkrai-EX vs BatMan vs Lucario/Bats vs M Ray vs ToadTina. It would probably be a more narrow format than our current one. Also, banning Battle Compressor would probably make Toad stronger, a card you said you wanted to ban. In Expanded, Yveltal would be worse, M Ray would be worse, and Sable Garb would be worse. It would probably make the format Toad/Bats vs Trevenant vs brave Yveltal players... Think about what that ban would do...
That's not any different then what I see now. Banning those cards would mean people actually have to play the game. I know that's bad for some people but the game is much better off without them. I don't like expanded. They need to let B/W die like all sets before it. That series was toxic to the game and XY continued it. Yveltal EX being worse is no concern of mine.
Not all decks need to be stupidly overpowered to be considered good. Removing Battle Compressor doesn't make decks bad. I also don't know how it makes toad stronger.
I'm with you on this one. An easy fix for this would have been to print a reverse version of battle compressor or a reverse super rod even. "Shuffle three Pokemon or basic energies back into your opponent's deck." But it hasn't happened yet. If they're rotating PHF out this year, it won't really be necessary anyway though.
Reminder to everyone that this is a thread about Marowak and Seismitoad-EX. If you'd like to discuss Night March, Battle Compressor, or any other topics I'd encourage you to start another thread and keep this one on topic 