Is RNGing Ethical?

[DNA]

RNGing is ethical. It allows you to get good pokemon without wasting your entire life. Even if you weren't allowed to RNG, every team in the tournament would be cloned.

So just because you are capable of doing something makes it ethical? With an argument that flimsy, you can state that theft, murder, and arson are all ethical. Also, you don't have any evidence to suggest that every team in the tournament is cloned. That's just a personal opinion with zero basis.

The object of this topic is not to state whether or not something is possible - we already know it's possible. The question is whether or not it's even ethical to do so. I do not believe it is, but that is my opinion; I do not take it as fact nor do I expect anyone else to do the same. And to be honest I've never cared about whether or not Nintendo approves the use of something; so what if it's frowned upon? I like to win on my own terms.

How do you think people discovered EV training, the extensive lists of egg moves, and how to get things like Volt Tackle on a Pikachu? People don't just experiment with the game like that, could you have easily figured out EV training if you had no outside help? Of course not.

And if you people are arguing about abuse of the system, just take a quick look at your neighborhood lawyer or politician. And also, ask yourself this; would you rather have a subpar team that took a month to build, or a great team that only took a week?

An interesting point, actually. Those who do have an advantage over those who do not; that goes for both RNG and EV training. Although, that just goes back to what I said earlier - just because you can do something does not mean you should; if you want an example, you can go look at your neighborhood politicians

The randomness factor in the game is put in to assure that every Pokemon is a little bit different and that nothing is perfect, so I believe. That's the reason why I don't like RNG; it removes that factor completely for in-game play. On PO it isn't that big of a deal since everyone is on equal footing, but in a real life situation, they aren't.
Sigh, I'm not sure if at this point I'm just trying to state my opinion or merely ranting.

 

[iisnumber12]

So just because you are capable of doing something makes it ethical? With an argument that flimsy, you can state that theft, murder, and arson are all ethical. Also, you don't have any evidence to suggest that every team in the tournament is cloned. That's just a personal opinion with zero basis.

The object of this topic is not to state whether or not something is possible - we already know it's possible. The question is whether or not it's even ethical to do so. I do not believe it is, but that is my opinion; I do not take it as fact nor do I expect anyone else to do the same. And to be honest I've never cared about whether or not Nintendo approves the use of something; so what if it's frowned upon? I like to win on my own terms.

How the heck do you think that? I said it is ethical because it increasing the odds of something and saving people time. It is RNG or people playing the VG 24-7. People who really want to win will go until they get great IVs, not quit without RNG. RNG is keeping sanity.

 

[Professor Palutena]

I don't really feel like the discussion level of this thread is very high, despite the 62 posts that have contributed to it. This is an interesting topic, but discussion is basically "RNG isn't ethical. Yes, it is. No, it isn't. Yes, it is", back and forth. Its all basically come full circle. So with that, I will be locking this thread.

*lock*

 

[PG24]

Is RNGing ethical? Yes and no depending on what group you are part of.

Why yes? People play to win. If you are not playing to win then you are playing the game wrong. Do you need RNG manipulation to win? No, however manipulation of RNG makes the road to winning faster. Let's face it, getting an okay team with good IVs, natures, and abilities takes forever. It's all a luck-based process. Yes, you can use things like the Power Items, but that only removes some luck.

RNGing is simply a shortcut. A faster way of travel. The CTRL on your keyboard. You get the point. With RNGing I can put my team together faster and actually get in testing. I can spot problems and fix them fast. Getting the Pokemon does not make the player. It never will. A player is determined by skill and team-building (read as: making a solid team).

Why no? People think it is cheating. Cheating is the only thing unethical in any game. RNGing is not cheating. I am not editing my device in any way. I am not using an external device to edit my game. What about it is cheating? /Nothing./ I am simply taking advantage of a mechanic that exists in the game. It's the same as EV training or breeding.

There are only two answerers to this question: the bias one and the correct one.

Sorry if my post has weird spelling errors or anything strange like that. I typed this from my phone. :F