so what do you do when your baby Volcanion gets confused turn 2 and you still need your board set up? (and you don't have any outs to really retreat.) Because confusion really hurts Volcanion and if you don't have a way to get out of it, you're in for a rough time. Just not sure what you do in that situation.
Discussion Is Volcanion-EX Still a Good Deck?
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so what do you do when your baby Volcanion gets confused turn 2 and you still need your board set up? (and you don't have any outs to really retreat.) Because confusion really hurts Volcanion and if you don't have a way to get out of it, you're in for a rough time. Just not sure what you do in that situation.
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If you're playing against Espeon-GX/Garbodor, be careful with your Tool attachments. Do not attach Choice Band/Fighting Fury Belt unless it is required to take a Knock Out. This will leave you free to attach a Float Stone and you can retreat out of Confusion.
With some cautious play, and several switching options (e.g. Olympia, Switch, Escape Rope andya boi Guzma), you shouldn't have too many problems playing around Confusion.
If you're playing against Espeon-GX/Garbodor, be careful with your Tool attachments. Do not attach Choice Band/Fighting Fury Belt unless it is required to take a Knock Out. This will leave you free to attach a Float Stone and you can retreat out of Confusion.
With some cautious play, and several switching options (e.g. Olympia, Switch, Escape Rope and
^ Sorry, Marshshadow GX does not benefit from steam up: Volcanion-EX's ability won't help its attacks, as only basic fires are affected by volc's ability. Marshshadow? He can only 1HKO stage 1 GXes if choice band's attached to it, and kukui is used w/ Turtonator in discard. Sorry, but in order to answer to water, best use Ho-Oh GX, and only kiawe on T1, lest you want Gardevoir-GX to be rare candied from Ralts T3-T4(depending on whether the opponent goes first or second), to annihilate your deck: 4 Fires on your side and one fairy plus 1 dce on Gardy's plus gardy choice band = 240 damage, enough for a 1HKO by Infinite Force...
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From tourney matches, I've gone fairly even with Espeon/Garb.
I run 2 Float Stone, 2 Switch, Skyla (can fetch them), and Olympia.
Retreating with Volcanion-EX after an attack is also an option; as you can reattach with Turtonator-GX or Volcanion.
It's pretty hard to deal with, but not impossible.
Also, you could always gamble with the coin flips; you can OHKO both Garb and Espeon-GX.
Yeah, it's frustrating so pardon if my posts come off that way. Some people say Garb/Espeon variants won't be that good post rotation but I don't see it. The deck is still tough to deal with and that alone makes it good. Volcanion will also be a force too. I had to revamp my Volcanion deck after a bunch of losses with it lately.
Volcanion-EX gets a lot of support in Burning Shadows. Also I think that Metagross get more popular, which is one of the best matchups, because of Gardevoir-GX.
Maybe we will see it just as a support Mon to push other fire types like Ho-Oh-GX. We´ll see.
Maybe we will see it just as a support Mon to push other fire types like Ho-Oh-GX. We´ll see.
I'd still try to attack and take the 50-50 chance that I'll still have a successful Power Heater attack with the reward of accelerating 2 R energy onto my benched Pokémon. Unlike Paralysis and Sleep conditions, one's Active still has an attack or retreat option available.
That's the play I made but I did not get heads so I damage myself and got taken out. From there, I put out my second baby volcanion, steamed up but the opponent got Garbotoxin out and just made things tough for me.
The key is not to risk knocking your self out, at that point you should have just passed and let your opponent knock you out.