Yea, I'm thinking the problem arises in my area, usually at the local league there isn't much trainer use so when I lock with plume I end up stopping rare candies and communications and the occasional energy search, so the hand sizes still tend to be smaller then what I usually get with a Juniper. Probably why I never really considered copycat :-X lol. I wonder how the meta will be with trainer use... might have to do some reworking :-D. Thanks everyone and very nice build, been seeing a lot of jumpluff/plume decks popping up lol