Just plain vote!!!

Who whould you vote for

  • Barack Obama / Joe Biden

    Votes: 30 61.2%

  • John McCain / Sarah Palin

    Votes: 19 38.8%
  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
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Obama here are my reasons:

-If we vote McCain theres goin to be more war (which has already take over a trillon dollers in you and I's tax dollers which could be going into our failing economy)

-Palin has less experience then obama

-WHOS GIVES A CRAP THAT SOCCER MOMS AND BULL DOGS ARE ALIKE I CAN PUT LIPSTICK ON A BULLDOG THEN IT WOULD BE THE SAME :l

-Obamas My homedog (so is Hill Dog)

-What will McCain do about the families that have lost someone close to them. What were going 4 more years so another 1,000-10,000 soldiers can die leaving there families with what?

-And what will McCain do about families that cant live in there homes anymore by the time McCain finshs 4 years you and me will probley be on the streets trying to find food in the ghetto.

Thats why I wouldnt vote for McCain

And another thing if McCain becomes prez and the american $ lowers how much do you think pokemon TCG Cards and Videogames will cost
 
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Larcan said:
The fact is that if the rest of the world was allowed to vote Obama would win in a landslide. Obama might do things that help the rest of the world, but I want a president who won't screwup America to make the world happy.
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Didn't you just agree with the fact that whatever happens to America eventually also happens to the world? So how would one improve the rest of the world whilst hurting America?

The fact that the effect isn't immediate is also evident, as we still have our own economic system which is partially linked to America, it's only when there's a serious crisis that the downfall of America will starting pulling Europe with it.

And no, I'd rather not have them still suppress a country which does not form a treat of any kind anymore and of which the dictatorship has already been overthrown. I'd rather have them put at danger for something constructive than to have them stay where they aren't supposed to be anymore. Iraq needs support ATM, not more troops walking around terrorising the population.
I don't think Belgium has many troops in Iraq, though, although we have some assisting troops in Afghanistan. I was referring more to the rest of Europe, as the Belgian military is beyond laughable.
 
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Larcan, you need to study high school English a bit more. EVeryone's using analogy and comparison and you're taking it literally :/

Why are we supposed to leave the rich's money? THat is not an economical reason to leave them alone. With taxing the rich heavier that would mean the poorer would not lose such a large percentage of their income, which they really can't afford to. The rich probably only get something like a 2% increase in their tax or something. If they leave the country then well, they're going to have to move everything which is a lot more hassle than having to pay the taxes, and I'm pretty sure tax evasion is a crime which means they'll have to lose everything that they don't leave. Don't think that rich people are concerned enough to have to leave because they're probably not bothered.
 
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B-Ray, I honestly don't think either of them won tbh. None of them was a clear winner and both of them made little white lies. (90%, more like 80%) Don't forget to mention that McCain chickened out almost in the end. ;f

dmaster out.
 
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LH: and you need to study economics a little more.

everyone but choccy and dmaster: Instead of addressing the issues everyone either comes back at me with either uneducated responses, your wrongs, or insults. I care deeply about America and everyone in it thusly I know that Obama's policy is not good for America. No one has come back with a solid response to my statement about the rich leaving. All I have gotten is your wrong or "no that won't happen" give me some facts. Their is more wrong with his policy than that but that is the biggest issue. I have not sujjested that the rich will move their stuff just a bunch of jobs and them selves. The rich of America pay more than 50% of our taxes do you think they will be ok with paying 60% or more like Obama's plan will make them? Also remember people their money pays for a lot of the services we middle and lower class rely on. If they leave their is no one to pick up the tab for the already large amount of social services we have, that Obama want to expand.

To everyone: We are gunning for each other here how about we all just start this over. Try this everyone through in a post with this form

If I could vote in this election I would vote for ***** because: make it simple but educated
 
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d master342 said:
B-Ray, I honestly don't think either of them won tbh. None of them was a clear winner and both of them made little white lies. (90%, more like 80%) Don't forget to mention that McCain chickened out almost in the end. ;f

dmaster out.
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In a TIME magazine article where they graded the candidates based on their debate performance McCain got a B- and Obama got an A- =]

-Black Rayquaza
 
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Don't believe everything you read in a magazine, least of all a review. McCain managed to hold his own on the Economy, but with outside factors slipped in, there's a clear winner. If you just look at the debate though, it was pretty even. ;/

dmaster out.
 
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Larcan said:
LH: and you need to study economics a little more.

everyone but choccy and dmaster: Instead of addressing the issues everyone either comes back at me with either uneducated responses, your wrongs, or insults. I care deeply about America and everyone in it thusly I know that Obama's policy is not good for America. No one has come back with a solid response to my statement about the rich leaving. All I have gotten is your wrong or "no that won't happen" give me some facts. Their is more wrong with his policy than that but that is the biggest issue. I have not sujjested that the rich will move their stuff just a bunch of jobs and them selves. The rich of America pay more than 50% of our taxes do you think they will be ok with paying 60% or more like Obama's plan will make them? Also remember people their money pays for a lot of the services we middle and lower class rely on. If they leave their is no one to pick up the tab for the already large amount of social services we have, that Obama want to expand.

To everyone: We are gunning for each other here how about we all just start this over. Try this everyone through in a post with this form

If I could vote in this election I would vote for ***** because: make it simple but educated
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Does this response count as educated ??

choccy417 said:
I don't care what anyone says, I support mccain palin because I don't want an idiot ( my opinion)
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FancyDanceLudicolo said:
Obama here are my reasons:

-If we vote McCain theres goin to be more war (which has already take over a trillon dollers in you and I's tax dollers which could be going into our failing economy)

-Palin has less experience then obama

-WHOS GIVES A crud THAT SOCCER MOMS AND BULL DOGS ARE ALIKE I CAN PUT LIPSTICK ON A BULLDOG THEN IT WOULD BE THE SAME :l

-Obamas My homedog (so is Hill Dog)

-What will McCain do about the families that have lost someone close to them. What were going 4 more years so another 1,000-10,000 soldiers can die leaving there families with what?

-And what will McCain do about families that cant live in there homes anymore by the time McCain finshs 4 years you and me will probley be on the streets trying to find food in the ghetto.

Thats why I wouldnt vote for McCain

And another thing if McCain becomes prez and the american $ lowers how much do you think pokemon TCG Cards and Videogames will cost
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I love how america obseses over people's (and in particular the rich & famous) personal lives and yet whines when our privacy gets invaded. LOL. Thats all I want to say.
 
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Noob sandwich: nope and as it was not posted after my request I would not except it to be. Their are uneducated people on both sides of the matter not just the Obama supporters and I have never implied such. All the worthless attacks/ answers ticked me off so I wanted to see if anyone cared or new enough to place a solid response. As of yet no one.

P/M I agree the majority of Americans can be a bit fickle lol
 
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I may have to study more commerce, but you should study more of human nature. They're not likely to waste so much time leaving somewhere just to escape a few measly taxes.

I don't get where you have the "uneducated" idea, but most long responses are as educated as each other. I don't se how your arguements are any better than theirs.
 
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Measly taxes? How a multi precent increase in measly? I know human nature pretty well to know that an number of rich people are greedy and will do anything to keep their money even if it means the hassle of moving.
 
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Dude, if they'd move because of the the tax increase, they would've moved ages ago. Employees in countries like China are way cheaper than American, and they have to pay less taxes there anyways. The way I see it, if they haven't moved out already, they have a reason to stay in America besides the profit.

And if I'm reading what you're saying correctly, it's not like they get to pay 60% of their profit, but that what they pay in taxes is 60% of the total amount of taxes paid. I which case the increase from 50% to 60% isn't so very much, especially if tax cuts for the working class are involved.
 
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Larcan said:
Measly taxes? How a multi precent increase in measly? I know human nature pretty well to know that an number of rich people are greedy and will do anything to keep their money even if it means the hassle of moving.
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*facepalm*

Hello, class, today in English we're going to learn about exagguration in writing. Exagguration is a sarcastic use of a quantitative word, used to make the word exeggurated bigger than it actually is.

Seriously.
 
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LH: Again, you will get NO WHERE in a debate by insulting/sarcasm, it just show that you know too little to work on facts. I from now on will ignore you unless you say something worthy of debate.

Now on to intelligent discussion....

HS: The fact is that as I jokingly stated earlier most Americans are fickle people. As little as a half a precent can be the thing that tips them over the edge.

But as I said the tax on the rich is not Obama's only problem. If all he was going to do was just decrease the lower income taxes and raise the higher ones it wouldn't be the best but as long as the rich some how continued to grin and bare it it could help with the government deficit.

The fact is

1. It has been proven time after time that the best way to help a mixed economy is tax cuts not tax increases. Yes the 90/95 % Obama says will get tax cuts, but with the way America is today those people will probably use it to pay of debt not bolster the economy.

2. Obama is wanting to expand social programs (socialism) which would cost more money thus canceling out any extra money that might be raised by the tax increases.
 
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Larcan said:
LH: Again, you will get NO WHERE in a debate by insulting/sarcasm, it just show that you know too little to work on facts. I from now on will ignore you unless you say something worthy of debate.

Now on to intelligent discussion....

HS: The fact is that as I jokingly stated earlier most Americans are fickle people. As little as a half a precent can be the thing that tips them over the edge.
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You just told Lieutenant Houndoom not to use sarcasm, and then you said that you "jokingly stated" something earlier in the thread. Do you read what you type before you press the "Post Reply" button?
 
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Larcan said:
2. Obama is wanting to expand social programs (socialism) which would cost more money thus canceling out any extra money that might be raised by the tax increases.
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Wow, using money for social security instead of war, madness!

If I'm not mistaken, Obama wants these tax increases to fund the social programs, I don't see the problem here, like, at all. You basically just said that what he's trying to achieve is very much possible...
 
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He also wants college to be easier to afford, which sounds very appealing to me.
 
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NS: I said something less seriously, I could have said most Americans are indecisive and tend change their minds with what ever is thought to be popular ect but I choose to be lighter.

HS/NY: What I was trying to get across was that if all the new money went into social programs how could it help us with our current economic issues and paying off our current debts?
 
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