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Kyurem/Klinklang BW on - glaciate!

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Anaestheticz

Aspiring Trainer
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Pokemon: 13
3-1-2 Klinklang (Shiftgear, all with 3+ retreat)
3 Kyurem
1 Darkrai EX
1 Terrakion (Retaliate)
1 Cobalion
1 Zekrom



Supporters: 11
4 Professor YOLO (Juniper)
4 N
3 Bianca

Trainers: 24
3 Switch
3 Pokemon Catcher
4 Max Potion
3 Eviolite
3 Heavy Ball
1 Ultra Ball
3 Rare Candy
1 Tool Scrapper
1 Super Rod
2 Random Receivers

Energy: 12
4 Prism Energy
4 Blend Energy
4 Metal Energy

***EDITED DECKLIST AS OF AUGUST 8TH***


Strategy:

Spread damage with Kyurem and glaciate spam while protecting the Kyurem.
 
PokéCastXVll said:
No Tool Scrapper? Garbardor will hurt you a lot if you don't come prepared for it.
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Oh I completely forgot about Tool Scrapper...that's actually a good one. Thank you for that.

I'm also having trouble finding slots for Rare Candies.

I need to cut a lot of things out...and I have no idea.

I really like the Minuns in the deck to start the spreading as soon as possible, but I feel like I might have to cut them to make room.
 
You should probably avoid such a low, special only energy count to avoid the auto loss to Garchomp. Even if they can't OHKO you're attackers and you're moving energies and max potion'ing, they really only need to attack 8 times when energy is on the field to limit your abilities to attack. Include basic metals to fit the bill for some of the colourless costs in the attacks.
 
JimboJumbo said:
You should probably avoid such a low, special only energy count to avoid the auto loss to Garchomp. Even if they can't OHKO you're attackers and you're moving energies and max potion'ing, they really only need to attack 8 times when energy is on the field to limit your abilities to attack. Include basic metals to fit the bill for some of the colourless costs in the attacks.
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I still have room for metals and water energies. I just need to figure out the right count.
 
Metal Energies are probably better than the water ones, so that way you have the ability to move all the energy in the deck as opposed to 2/3s of it.

I also don't know about using Minun in the deck, especially in such high amounts without EXP Share. While that extra 10 damage might come into play at some point, he doesn't really do anything for helping you set up (like Emolga would) or provide some kind of type coverage or counter to this deck's weak points. I'd consider dropping the Minuns for Emolga's, Kyogre EX or Kyurem EX.

You also don't play Random Receiver, why is beyond me, but you should consider playing two or so. Helps you get the supporters when you need them.
 
JimboJumbo said:
Metal Energies are probably better than the water ones, so that way you have the ability to move all the energy in the deck as opposed to 2/3s of it.

I also don't know about using Minun in the deck, especially in such high amounts without EXP Share. While that extra 10 damage might come into play at some point, he doesn't really do anything for helping you set up (like Emolga would) or provide some kind of type coverage or counter to this deck's weak points. I'd consider dropping the Minuns for Emolga's, Kyogre EX or Kyurem EX.

You also don't play Random Receiver, why is beyond me, but you should consider playing two or so. Helps you get the supporters when you need them.
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To be honest, I forgot about the RRs.

I'm just having trouble finding room for all of this...

So far, I need to cut the Minuns for sure and make room for Rare Candies, Tool Scrapper, Super Rod, Energies, and RRs.

This is hard :(
 
I tried a similar deck to this before- have you tried Groudon-EX? It runs on the same Prism and Blend Energies as Kyurem and can significantly improve your Darkrai/Hydra matchup- especially since Shaymin-EX can't OHKO it.
 
Nigel said:
I tried a similar deck to this before- have you tried Groudon-EX? It runs on the same Prism and Blend Energies as Kyurem and can significantly improve your Darkrai/Hydra matchup- especially since Shaymin-EX can't OHKO it.
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The total card count up top is 56. If I cut the Minuns, it will put me at 52. Once at 52, I have to make room for the Rare Candies, Tool Scrapper, Super Rod, Energies, and RRs...and even then, adding Groudon EX makes this even more difficult. At this point, I have to start figuring out what other things to remove ie cutting down Eviolites, Switches, and Catchers



Right now, I need it so that if you make a suggestion, tell me what to also remove to make up for it >.>
 
So your total card count is 52. That leaves 8 more open spots to go.

-1 Kyurem (3 is plenty enough for spreading, especially once we put in Groudon)
-1 Kyurem-EX (Doesn't stick to this deck's strategy very well)
-2 Switch (For Darkrai-EX)
-1 Eviolite (3 is all you'll need)
-3 Level Ball (This can only get out 3 Pokemon in your entire deck, so it's pretty pointless)

+1 Darkrai-EX (Move Prism, give free retreat)
+4 Metal Energy (Can be good to cover a Pokemon's Colorless attack cost).
+2 Groudon-EX (For more spread + easy KO's against Darkrai/Hydreigon)
+2 Random Receiver (For more consistency)
+3 Ultra Ball (Can search out anything)
+3 Rare Candy (Duh.)
+1 Super Rod (In case Darkrai/Klingklangs get OHKO'd)

Hope I helped.
 
Nigel said:
So your total card count is 52. That leaves 8 more open spots to go.

-1 Kyurem (3 is plenty enough for spreading, especially once we put in Groudon)
-1 Kyurem-EX (Doesn't stick to this deck's strategy very well)
-2 Switch (For Darkrai-EX)
-1 Eviolite (3 is all you'll need)
-3 Level Ball (This can only get out 3 Pokemon in your entire deck, so it's pretty pointless)

+1 Darkrai-EX (Move Prism, give free retreat)
+4 Metal Energy (Can be good to cover a Pokemon's Colorless attack cost).
+2 Groudon-EX (For more spread + easy KO's against Darkrai/Hydreigon)
+2 Random Receiver (For more consistency)
+3 Ultra Ball (Can search out anything)
+3 Rare Candy (Duh.)
+1 Super Rod (In case Darkrai/Klingklangs get OHKO'd)

Hope I helped.
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Used some of the information you gave me to update the decklist above.

Decided against adding Groudon EX, but added in Terrakion for the Darkrai match up. Decided against Darkrai because there are only 4 energies that would help me set that up.
 
why not add darkrai for free retreat? he contributes to spread too if u can set it up
 
JayKam said:
why not add darkrai for free retreat? he contributes to spread too if u can set it up
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I have thought about it for a long time, but I don't know how I would begin to add the dark energies. The only thing that would make him relevant is the 4 Prisms and that's it. I'm just afraid of having Darkrai as a dead draw with no prisms.\

Should I cut a Switch and add a Darkrai EX?

Should I cut the Kyurem EX? The reason it is in the deck is just for the first ability to delay them a turn by discarding their energy, but I'm most likely going to cut it.
 
Anaestheticz said:
I have thought about it for a long time, but I don't know how I would begin to add the dark energies. The only thing that would make him relevant is the 4 Prisms and that's it. I'm just afraid of having Darkrai as a dead draw with no prisms.\

Should I cut a Switch and add a Darkrai EX?

Should I cut the Kyurem EX? The reason it is in the deck is just for the first ability to delay them a turn by discarding their energy, but I'm most likely going to cut it.
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play test with darkrai, i cant decide whether hed be good or not , let me know how it goes
 
Alright, updated it by removing the Kyurem EX and adding in the Darkrai. Even having a single Prism makes it so that everyone has a free retreat cost so I'm going to try and work with that.
 
Updated again on August 8th.

The 1-of Darkrai EX is SO amazing. I would say its required.
The 1-of Cobalion is also really strong.
Cut 1 Kyurem for 1 Zekrom.
The water energies here don't do anything important so I cut them for metal and it worked well.

So far, deck has done very well. Especially against stage 2 based decks. When you glaciate for 3 prizes, seems good.
 
not gunna lie, sableeye can own this deck since you dont have energy acceleration. (energy removal item cards)
 
With regards to what Jaykam said, I'd recommend adding in an EPO Klinklang to your spread. For a metal energy, he can take ANY energy from the discard and attach it to himself. Just remember to run a few basic darkness energies so he's not stuck in the active position.
 
Deoxysmatter said:
With regards to what Jaykam said, I'd recommend adding in an EPO Klinklang to your spread. For a metal energy, he can take ANY energy from the discard and attach it to himself. Just remember to run a few basic darkness energies so he's not stuck in the active position.
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I feel like I lose every match up against hammers so yea...I don't expect anyone here using hammers.
 
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