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[Joethegreat1]

What do you think about losing? There is a 7 year old at my local league, and whenever he loses (which is often) he throws a huge tantrum(Brat). People tell him that they'll kick him out if he does it anymore, but they never do....

It's only a game, right?

 

[Zyflair]

1) He's not mature enough to play
2) I hate sore losers
3) I think they should get brainwashed and never play any more TCGs ever again
4) I hate sore losers

It's just a game. Live with it you obsessive people.

 

[Krucifier]

It's kinda pathetic that, whenever someone loses, they make up excuses EVERY time. Things like "Oh I let him win" or "He just got lucky". You know. Stuff like that.

On the other hand, I don't have a problem with people who nitpick their own deck and play style after a match. For example, "I didn't draw into that card I needed... [Maybe because I only run 2?]". I think this helps them identify problems within the deck so they can fix them.

There is really no excuse for people who throw tantrums every time they lose though. If they don't stop, maybe your LL should consider giving them a "holiday" from the league.

 

[Toxic]

Win or lose, I don't care. As long as I can continue to play the game I'll be a happy camper. People who make a big deal out of losing need to have a reality check.

 

[kaze]

Play for fun, friends and something to do

 

[Prinplush]

When I go to my first league sometime this month (maybe... if I can work up the courage...) I look forward to losing. It can be more enjoyable sometimes (speaking from past experiences of other games and this one) to learn more. Throwing tantrums about losing is just insane.

That kid just needs to understand that it's not that big of a deal.

 

[Foxtrot]

I guess nobody has taken anothing in psycology...The childs mind isn't devoloped enough and doesn't understand the concept of winning and losing. They need more real-life experience before they can be honestly expected to deal with this concept. As for the whole "Play for fun thing", sorry, but I play for both. I don't know about you, but losing sucks. "Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser."
Vince Lombardi

 

[Zyflair]

While you make a good point, the child surely should not play if that's the case. Why should a pre-mature kid go around playing and causing disturbances?

Oh, I definitely play to win, but there's no reason to have fun either. Losing does suck...

Until you win the next game.

 

[Foxtrot]

Losing sucks. Therefore winning sucks. If the child likes to play and likes to win, who are you to say he shouldn't play? If he's a sore loser and he's being very disrpuive, yes, he needs to be taught that his actions are extreeme. However, having an activity he enjoys taken from him is not going to solve his problems and will hurt the child's feelings.

 

[Zyflair]

Got me there.

But what are we going to do if he never snaps out of it (or at least for another year)?
I have this one kid at league that obviously brainwashed his parents. While he's welcome to play and normally is behaved, when he can't stand losing in the top cuts, I find him to be a big pain, especially when I'm trying to think about my own match.

 

[kaze]

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser."

A good loser is someone who, in a tornament or something plays a game, loses, shakes the hand of the winner, and then is off trading and talking about the game and stuff with them. Not losing and then walking away all miffed and whineing about it for the next 6 weeks.

 

[Devastator]

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser."

A good loser is someone who, in a tornament or something plays a game, loses, shakes the hand of the winner, and then is off trading and talking about the game and stuff with them. Not losing and then walking away all miffed and whineing about it for the next 6 weeks.

^^Thats right.
Exactly what is throwing a tantrum going to achieve. I am sure most of us have encountered poor losers and from my experience it sours my win, and is something that i really don't like dealing with. It starts with tantrums and as they get older becomes accusations of cheating or other nasty things that they can think of to deflect the pain of them not coming up trumps. I agree with Zyflair and supernanny - send him to the naughty corner (in this case anywhere except where the tourny/league is). They will learn that behaviour like that is not tolerated or we as players who can control ourselves and get over it don't have to deal with their s#@&. I am also certain its against the whole "spirit of the game". Learn where things went wrong and in the end you come out as a better player from it therefore eliminating the need to throw these tantrums cause you are not losing as much.

 

[Krucifier]

I guess nobody has taken anothing in psycology...The childs mind isn't devoloped enough and doesn't understand the concept of winning and losing. They need more real-life experience before they can be honestly expected to deal with this concept. As for the whole "Play for fun thing", sorry, but I play for both. I don't know about you, but losing sucks. "Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser."
Vince Lombardi

Actually. Children of the age the thread starter has mentioned, 7 years old, have a sense of "right" and "wrong" and "sore loser" attitudes, and the like. Albeit, they will be further developed as they age.

Of course though, these behaviours and thoughts are heavily influenced by the childs parents/guardians, siblings, other family members, etc. etc. At that age, they will mimic that of people close to them, like their parents, or elder siblings, etc. etc. So if you have a 7 year old banging desks and screaming because he lost. I would take a good look at his parents.

 

[Gale]

In my opinion, the best way to lose is to analyze your match and figure out what your opponent did to defeat you. There used to be a kid at my league who sweared like crazy whenever he lost or won. He would gloat like "**** YEAH" or he'd be like "**** YOU YOU ***" Well, one day, my league runner just got sick of it and he banned him from the league and POP.

I agree with Kruci O). Cronic Rage issues often have much to do with parental issues that develop at an early age, and if not examined, could turn into something much worse as the subject matures. He may turn out into a bank robber, or a kidnapper. So, if he can learn the values of winning/losing at an early age, this can be prevented =). So, maybe you, as another Pokemon player, can teach him about being a fair loser?

I am also looking at this from a psychological point of view .

 

[Soul]

It's just a game, and only league playing what do he care ?

 

[kaze]

Or you could just beat the crap out of him and see what happens (In a battle, not fight lol).

 

[The Spread King]

Most people only aim to become famous or get money for their own scholarship. So when they lose, it just tells them in their own head that they are doing bad for the next tourney coming up. So they think they suck, that they will not win.

The Pokemon TCG is a mind game mostly, it's about what people think and people's actions. Not about which deck is good or not.

Little kids like that have attitudes like that all the time. They always think they are automatically the so called ,"World Champion." But they are not, they need to chill down their acts. If they want to be a really good player, It takes time. More practice and decent combos for which deck.

I see all those juniors throw tantrum all the time. Another thing is probably why they haven't played a good player in league. But when in City Championships or something like that, they get 6-0'd by the top in the state. Or the kids get too cocky to win, they get carried away, then make a bunch of misplays.

Too many people get carried away before winning a match, that they make a misplay and then lose the game. I have went through this situation and I know it, and that situation mad me mad also. I know how these kids get mad, I seen their reactions.

 

[Foxtrot]

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser."

A good loser is someone who, in a tornament or something plays a game, loses, shakes the hand of the winner, and then is off trading and talking about the game and stuff with them. Not losing and then walking away all miffed and whineing about it for the next 6 weeks.

Thats called SOTG, which is an auto. Throwing a tantrum isn't SOTG. However, that quote means that NOBODY in thier right mine should play a game and not want to win. Its silly to even bother to play and say "I just want to have fun. Winning isn't important". The TCG is a card games. While fun, its a compeditive event, and all compeditive events are about winning. Yes, if you're not having fun, then you shouldn't be playing. If your not playing to win, then you shouldn't be playing either.

 

[red blastoise]

if you don't play for winning, why do you even try on making a deck?, use a fun deck with 4 groudon and 56 fight energy!

EDIT: o wait, on topic huh, lose to the kid and act JUST like him, see how he reacts, ask for a rematch, and own him.

and tell him it isn't about the deck, but also about the player, so if he is calm, the hearts of the cards fill awaken and help him!!!

Or just say he schould attack with OVER 9000 to beat ANYONE!

(actually i would try all 3 options)

 

[Lou Cypher]

Meh, I can't stand losing. That said, I try to be a good sport. That kid doesn't have to be able to stand losing, but he needs to be able to be a good sport about it.