Discussion Lost Origin Partial Setlist

N's Rhyperior

N's Rhyperior

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Well, actually, Liam...

Nvm, setlist time!

NOTE: Expect the cut cards from the previous set to be in our main set. Meaning the cards that should be in Lost Origin will be pushed to the next set. Hence, I'll put an asterisk on these previous cut cards.

Details:
- 14 Pokemon V
- 1 Pokemon VMAX
- 6 Pokemon VSTAR
- 190+ non-SR cards
- 15+ Trainer Cards
- 30-card Trainer Gallery is still in this set.
  1. Oddish
  2. Gloom
  3. Vileplume
  4. Paras
  5. Parasect
  6. Wurmple
  7. Silcoon
  8. Beautifly
  9. Cascoon
  10. Dustox
  11. Seedot
  12. Nuzleaf
  13. Shiftry
  14. Roselia
  15. Roserade
  16. Phanthump
  17. Trevenant
  18. Blipbug
  19. Dottler
  20. Orbeetle
  21. Slugma
  22. Magcargo
  23. Torkoal
  24. Litwick
  25. Lampent
  26. Chandelure
  27. Delphox V
  28. Litleo
  29. Pyroar
  30. Poliwag
  31. Poliwhirl
  32. Politoed
  33. Seel
  34. Dewgong
  35. Horsea
  36. Seadra
  37. Kingdra
  38. Luvdisc
  39. Shellos
  40. Finneon
  41. Lumineon
  42. Snover
  43. Abomasnow
  44. Hisuian Basculin
  45. Hisuian Basculegion
  46. Ducklett
  47. Swanna
  48. Kyurem V
  49. Kyurem VMAX
  50. Cramorant
  51. Glastrier
  52. Pikachu
  53. Raichu
  54. Electrike
  55. Manectric
  56. Magnezone V
  57. Magnezone VSTAR
  58. Rotom V
  59. Tynamo
  60. Eelektrik
  61. Eelektross
  62. Clefairy
  63. Clefable
  64. Gastly
  65. Haunter
  66. Gengar
  67. Mr. Mime
  68. Jynx
  69. Radiant Gardevoir
  70. Sableye
  71. Mawile
  72. Shuppet
  73. Banette
  74. Cresselia
  75. Hisuian Zorua
  76. Hisuian Zoroark
  77. Inkay
  78. Malamar
  79. Comfey
  80. Mimikyu
  81. Spectrier
  82. Enamorus V
  83. Hisuian Growlithe
  84. Hisuian Arcanine
  85. Poliwrath
  86. Machop
  87. Machoke
  88. Machamp
  89. Rhyhorn
  90. Rhydon
  91. Rhyperior
  92. Aerodactyl V
  93. Aerodactyl VSTAR
  94. Sudowoodo
  95. Gligar
  96. Gliscor
  97. Makuhita
  98. Hariyama
  99. Meditite
  100. Medicham
  101. Relicanth
  102. Gastrodon
  103. Mienfoo
  104. Mienshao
  105. Landorus
  106. Binacle
  107. Barbaracle
  108. Carbink
  109. Rockruff
  110. Falinks
  111. Stonjourner
  112. Spinarak
  113. Ariados
  114. Murkrow
  115. Honchkrow
  116. Seviper
  117. Spiritomb
  118. Drapion V
  119. Drapion VSTAR
  120. Darkrai
  121. Inkay
  122. Hoopa
  123. Radiant Hisuian Sneasler
  124. Radiant Steelix
  125. Bronzor
  126. Bronzong
  127. Galarian Stunfisk
  128. Magearna
  129. Galarian Perrserker V
  130. Giratina V
  131. Giratina VSTAR
  132. Goomy
  133. Hisuian Sliggoo
  134. Hisuian Goodra
  135. Hisuian Goodra V
  136. Hisuian Goodra VSTAR
  137. Pidgeot V
  138. Lickitung
  139. Lickilicky
  140. Porygon
  141. Porygon2
  142. Porygon-Z
  143. Snorlax
  144. Aipom
  145. Ambipom
  146. Hisuian Zoroark V
  147. Hisuian Zoroark VSTAR
  148. Bouffalant
  149. Komala
  150. Skwovet
  151. Greedent
  152. Arc Phone
  153. Arezu
  154. Box of DIsaster
  155. Colress's Experiment
  156. Damage Pump
  157. Fantina
  158. Iscan
  159. Lady
  160. Lake Acuity
  161. Lost City
  162. Lost Vacuum
  163. Mirage Gate
  164. Miss Fortune Sisters
  165. Panic Mask
  166. Riley
  167. Thorton
  168. Tool Box
  169. Volo
  170. Windup Arm
  171. Gift Energy
  172. Hisuian Electrode V
  173. Delphox V
  174. Kyurem V
  175. Magnezone V
  176. Rotom V
  177. Rotom V
  178. Enamorus V
  179. Aerodactyl V
  180. Aerodactyl V
  181. Gallade V
  182. Drapion V
  183. Galarian Perrserker V
  184. Galarian Perrserker V
  185. Giratina V
  186. Giratina V
  187. Hisuian Goodra V
  188. Pidgeot V
  189. Arezu
  190. Colress' Experiment
  191. Fantina
  192. Iscan
  193. Lady
  194. Miss Fortune Sisters
  195. Thorton
  196. Volo ***
  197. Kyurem VMAX
  198. Magnezone VSTAR
  199. Aerodactyl VSTAR
  200. Drapion VSTAR
  201. Giratina VSTAR
  202. Hisuian Goodra VSTAR
  203. Hisuian Zoroark VSTAR
  204. Arezu
  205. Colress' Experiment
  206. Fantina
  207. Iscan
  208. Lady
  209. Miss Fortune Sisters
  210. Thorton
  211. Volo
  212. Giratina VSTAR
  213. Hisuian Zoroark VSTAR
  214. Box of Disaster
  215. Collapsed Stadium
  216. Dark Patch
  217. Lost Vacuum
Trainer Gallery:

  1. Parasect
  2. Roserade
  3. Charizard
  4. Chandelure
  5. Pikachu
  6. Gengar
  7. Banette
  8. Hisuian Arcanine
  9. Spiritomb
  10. Snorlax
  11. Castform
  12. Orbeetle V
  13. Orbeetle VMAX
  14. Centiskorch V
  15. Centiskorch VMAX
  16. Pikachu V
  17. Pikachu VMAX
  18. Enamorus V
  19. Gallade V
  20. Crobat V
  21. Eternatus V
  22. Eternatus VMAX
  23. Blissey V
  24. Boss' Orders (Lysandre)
  25. Cook
  26. Kabu
  27. Nessa
  28. Opal
  29. Pikachu VMAX
  30. Mew VMAX
 
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Looks like all the Vs will make it again with 14 in the set and Infernape being a promo card.

But, with the amount of cards likely cut 60-80+, the last set looks to be 300 cards large. Ridiculous.

Unless of course some last minute holiday set will be announced with shiny Charizard headlining. Unlikely though as that would presumably be being printed now if it existed.

JustinBasil, you've left out the Delphox V and Cramorant cards from your set list. Also, no "intentionally excluded" list this time?
 
Omitted Cards (Speculation):

  1. Venonat
  2. Venomoth
  3. Foongus
  4. Amoonguss
  5. Durant
  6. Vulpix
  7. Ninetales
  8. Fletchinder
  9. Talonflame
  10. Wailmer
  11. Wailord
  12. Phione
  13. Dewpider
  14. Araquanid
  15. Chinchou
  16. Lanturn
  17. Rotom
  18. Emolga
  19. Drowzee
  20. Hypno
  21. Misdreavus
  22. Mismagius
  23. Chimecho
  24. Swirlix
  25. Slurpuff
  26. Indeedee
  27. Dreepy
  28. Drakloak
  29. Dragapult
  30. Gligar
  31. Gliscor
  32. Gallade V
  33. Hawlucha
  34. Sandygast
  35. Palossand
  36. Zubat
  37. Golbat
  38. Crobat
  39. Murkrow
  40. Honchkrow
  41. Croagunk
  42. Toxicroak
  43. Sandile
  44. Krokorok
  45. Krookodile
  46. Mareanie
  47. Toxapex
  48. Beldum
  49. Metang
  50. Metagross
  51. Ferroseed
  52. Ferrothorn
  53. Spinda
  54. Buneary
  55. Lopunny
  56. Fletchling
 
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Some leaks from the TG of Lost Origin confirm:

[TG01*] CHR Parasect (Dark Phantasm)
[TG02] CHR Roserade (Battle Region)
[TG03] CHR Charizard (VMAX Climax)
[TG04] CHR Chandelure (Battle Region)
[TG??] CHR Gengar (Dark Phantasm)
[TG??] CHR Banette (VMAX Climax)
[TG??] CHR Hisuian Arcanine (Dark Phantasm)
[TG??] CHR Castform (VMAX Climax)
[TG??] CSR Pikachu V (VMAX Climax)
[TG??] CSR Pikachu VMAX (VMAX Climax)

Unfortunately the numbers are too blurred. Also, I find kinda weird that they decided to put Pikachu Vmax in LOR instead of going with the pattern and put it in SWSH12 that should be the set to feature the Gold Pikachu.
 
dineinunes said:
Some leaks from the TG of Lost Origin confirm:

[TG01*] CHR Parasect (Dark Phantasm)
[TG02] CHR Roserade (Battle Region)
[TG03] CHR Charizard (VMAX Climax)
[TG04] CHR Chandelure (Battle Region)
[TG??] CHR Gengar (Dark Phantasm)
[TG??] CHR Banette (VMAX Climax)
[TG??] CHR Hisuian Arcanine (Dark Phantasm)
[TG??] CHR Castform (VMAX Climax)
[TG??] CSR Pikachu V (VMAX Climax)
[TG??] CSR Pikachu VMAX (VMAX Climax)

Unfortunately the numbers are too blurred. Also, I find kinda weird that they decided to put Pikachu Vmax in LOR instead of going with the pattern and put it in SWSH12 that should be the set to feature the Gold Pikachu.
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I saw a leak revealing that gold Pikachu VMax is in this set. Is very weird that it isn't Rayquaza and Duraludon.

Opal also confirmed as a TG. @N's Rhyperior your list has Milo but we got that in Astral Radiance.
 
Oh forgot to mention Opal is TG28 btw. So no Raihan, which is to be expected as he should come along the Duraludon VMax.
 
Few openings on Youtube thanks to those early Checklane blisters.

The following can be bolded, plus their pre/evolutions since they're more or less confirmed too:
4 Paras
5 Parasect
16 Phantump
21 Slugma
22 Magcargo
33 Seel
34 Dewgong
35 Horsea
37 Kingdra
40 Finneon
41 Lumineon
42 Snover
43 Abomasnow
44 Hisuian Basculin
53 Raichu
59 Tynamo
60 Eelektrik
62 Clefairy
64 Gastly
65 Haunter
66 Gengar
69 Radiant Gardevoir
72 Shuppet
73 Banette
75 Hisuian Zorua
80 Mimikyu
83 Hisuian Growlithe
92 Aerodactyl V
93 Aerodactyl VStar
106 Binacle
107 Barbaracle
116 Seviper
117 Spiritomb
129 Galarian Perrserker V
130 Giratina V
132 Goomy
133 Hisuian Sliggoo
134 Hisuian Goodra
137 Pidgeot V
140 Porygon
141 Porygon2
144 Aipom
145 Ambipom
153 Arezu
155 Colress's Experiment
156 Damage Pump
157 Fantina
158 Iscan
160 Lake Acuity
161 Lost City
162 Lost Vacuum (aka Lost Sweeper)
171 Gift Energy
172 Hisuian Electrode V FA
183 Galarian Perrserker V FA
194 Miss Fortune Sisters FA
TG01 Parasect
TG03 Charizard
TG05 Pikachu
TG06 Gengar
TG28 Opal
TG29 Pikachu VMax (gold)
TG30 Mew VMax (gold)

You haven't listed SRs, but Magezone VStar RR is 198 and Lost Vacuum SR is 217.

Now here are the more interesting ones, these do not line up with your current list:

6 Wurmple
8 Beautifly
9 Cascoon
11 Seedot
12 Nuzleaf

^From this we see the Sunkern line cut. Interestingly Hisuian Electrode V is cut, but the FA version is confirmed.

?? Gliscor - couldn't see number, but Gliscor is in, so Phanpy line will be cut.

125 Bronzor (this tells us Beldum line is cut and Galarian Stunfisk is in)
126 Bronzong
148 Bouffalant (this plus Ambipom's number confirms Spinda is cut)

Due to the English names of some of the trainers, you need to do a little shuffle:

163 Mirage Gate
164 Miss Fortune Sisters
165 Panic Mask
167 Thorton
168 Tool Box
169 Volo
170 Windup Arm
 
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We finally know the missing cards from TG3, Orbeetle VMAX and Centiskorch VMAX. I put Centiskorch VMAX on the list because it makes to put Kabu with the Centiskorch
 
You need to put Bouffalant after the Zoroark VStar and swap Volo and Windup Arm around.

Also Cramorant & Glastrier are confirmed. Replaces Dewpider line. No doubt Spectrier is also in and replaces Indeedee on your list.
 
Boss's Orders is TG24. I saw a listing on eBay for it. Also there might be 6 trainer full arts in this set and 6 in the next. There's 12 we still need from VMAX Climax and since there's only 11 character holos instead of 12 that we got from BrS and AR, I think that slot is used on an extra trainer.
 
Oh and one more thing: there will be a full art removed from the set. I narrowed it down to either Hisuian Goodra V, Pidgeot V, or Hisuian Zoroark V. My money is on either Goodra or Zoroark and it'll be put in a future VSTAR Premium Collection box.
 
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