Ruling Lucario GL with Azelf Lv.X

j.payne46

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Hi,
I was wondering how these two Poke Bodies would work in the same deck as Lucario GL sets all Pokemon's weakness to x2 and Azelf prevents all weakness to Psychic Pokemon. The reason I want to know is for my Gallade 4 deck.

Also is it a good combo?
 
It can be a good combo. Lucario doubles weakness. Azelf makes psychic Pokemon have no weakness. There would be no weakness to double (for psychic Pokemon)
 
But if an attack is not affected by Pokebodies, the weakness is applied as the printed amount
 
Um... no. The Body removes the weakness from the card, as if it never existed. You would not apply weakness if an attack says to ignore Bodies in this situation.
 
Wish Maker only meant an attack that ignored Bodies that affected the damage the attack deals. For example, Honchkrow Lv.X's Feint Attack (Let's pretend it CAN be affected by Weakness. I am way too lazy to find something that has Feint Attack, or a similar attack that is affected by Weakness, but not by Bodies.) It only ignores a Body if that body directly affects the damage being dealt. Meaning, if that Poke-Body is on the Pokemon you are attacking or something similar. The Body isn't directly affecting the damage you are dealing, it affects your opponents entire field by removing any weakness all Psychic Pokemon have. Weakness isn't an effect on the damage being dealt, it is a game mechanic.

Also, Feint Attack and other attacks like it do not prevent the Body from working. All they do is look and see if anything is affecting the damage you are dealing. For example, a Body that would be ignored is the Poke-Body of Abomasnow SF. It makes all damage dealt to any of their Pokemon be reduced by 20. It directly reduces damage dealt, removing the Weakness is not directly affecting the damage you are dealing.
 
Imagine a Psychic Pokemon is weak to Fighting +20. Rampardos PL attacks, so, since Boundary Aura and Psychic Aura are effects on the Defending Pokemon, that Poke would take 80 + 20 damage.
 
... Are you serious? No, just no. That is wrong. Psychic Aura overrides everything, there is no longer a Weakness for Lucario to double. Psychic Aura is not considered an effect on the Defending Pokemon, so it would not be ignored. What part of this is too hard to understand? :/
 
Kronar said:
Wish Maker only meant an attack that ignored Bodies that affected the damage the attack deals. For example, Honchkrow Lv.X's Feint Attack (Let's pretend it CAN be affected by Weakness. I am way too lazy to find something that has Feint Attack, or a similar attack that is affected by Weakness, but not by Bodies.) It only ignores a Body if that body directly affects the damage being dealt. Meaning, if that Poke-Body is on the Pokemon you are attacking or something similar. The Body isn't directly affecting the damage you are dealing, it affects your opponents entire field by removing any weakness all Psychic Pokemon have. Weakness isn't an effect on the damage being dealt, it is a game mechanic.

Also, Feint Attack and other attacks like it do not prevent the Body from working. All they do is look and see if anything is affecting the damage you are dealing. For example, a Body that would be ignored is the Poke-Body of Abomasnow SF. It makes all damage dealt to any of their Pokemon be reduced by 20. It directly reduces damage dealt, removing the Weakness is not directly affecting the damage you are dealing.


gallade e4
it has feint, and only affects pokebodys, and it's psichic type, perfect, non?
 
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