Lucid Dreaming

Palmer said:
What kind? Well, at least you know someone who's also pretty much experienced the same thing. Mine was different though. I got into sleep paralysis for about a minute, lost consciousness, and wake up in sleep paralysis again, and I was like, "Not this again...". It was quite something to remember though.[/badmemories]
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The nightmare was about body bags, Dr House, someone being alive and trying to escape a body bag. But when I woke up, I couldn't do anything. The scariest part about that was that I felt some sort of presence at that time and being unable to move my neck to see if it was real was very horrific.
 
Pokequaza said:
Moneyking63 said:
Pokequaza said:
My dreams sometimes predict the future, not really as a dream but more like pictures. The next morning I don't know them anymore (I remember only a bit), but a few days later I can feel a 'deja-vu' coming (about a few seconds before the deja-vu). It's really weird, and since I know it's coming I totally concentrate me on my vision and a few seconds later I get to see the same pictuce as in my dreams.

Anyway mostly my dreams are predicting the future, but like 99% isn't true, I kinda make my dreams prefect, but ofcourse the next day that isn't going to happen, but anyway I had a nice dream :)
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That happens to me, in a sense. I'll be going through day and it's almost as if I get a vision (I don't) but I get that deja-vous feeling, like I saw the exact placement of what happened in a dream. It's nothing big like predicting the score of a baseball team. But like seeing a biker ride down the sidewalk from where I'm standing, or hearing someone say something in a certain way. It's really hard to explain, but it's deja-vous. I can only imagine I had seen it before in a dream, I don't know where else it would come from. I know a lot of people don't experience that kind of stuff, so I'm thankful I do. It's really a unique feeling.
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Yes exactly, not very big happenings. But all the things going on are the same as in your dream (or at least were you remember them from), right? Somebody is saying a word you remember and at the same time you're sitting/standing in the same position, same happenings going on on the background etc.
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Yup, that's exactly it! Well what do you know, I always thought I was the only one. Kind of nice to know it's not just me, who knows maybe it's some mental connection and we'll team up to save the world one day :p

Never gone through Sleep paralysis, never want to, what a horrible thing that must be, I can imagine it would be terrible!
 
@Moneyking63 lol, let's save the world. But yeah it's nice to know more people share the same ability ;P
btw, previous night I didn't dream at all... weird :p
 
I had a very odd dream last night. It will take to long to write it down, but the important part is that I was able to control a major turning point of the dream. Wierd. I guess that I can semi-lucidly dream.
 
I think that that's NOT Dejavu. Dejavu is when you have the feeling that you have already experienced something or having been to someplace while you haven't.
 
Lucid Dreaming: Once when I was like 8 I had this dream where all these monsters and witches were attacking me and then I made myself turn into this knight and defeat them. ^-^

Dejavu: This has happened to me so many times that I can't tell. I here someone saying something or do something and I get that insane feeling that I have heard or seen it before. It's so awsome and then I tell it to my friends and they look at me with this strange look. ^-^

What's Omega 3?

Oh and last night I had this dream where my friend and this kid who was my friend but now not so much both had girlfriends. The kid that was once my friend really is this girl's boyffriend in real life and that is annoying because I like her and my other friend is with a girl that he likes and I am left alone and in the dream it was as if they were standing over me with their girlfriends and everything was dark except for a small circle of light around me. (Just saying)
 
Omega 3 is a sort of fat, but it's a good fat. It helps your brains to work better etc. And it's a lot in fish, so that's why fish is good for your brains :p. Maybe you can look here for more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-3_fatty_acid
 
Well kids, vegetables are good for you. Drink milk everyday, eat your vegetables, take vitamins, and exercise on a regular basis so that I don't haunt you in your nightmares.[/dothisathome]
 
Palmer said:
I've had a whole bunch of lucid dreams, and I have enough experience on them that I get control most of the time, or at least get desirable results. Like one of the previous posters said, Omega 3 is essential for manipulation. Ever since I've taken natural food supplements with Omega 3, my dreams have improved in clarity, now that I think of it. The dreams become so clear that you'd think that you really are conscious. Here are a few do's and don't of dreamland and nightmare kingdom:

Do
  • If you are experiencing a dream that you like, let it take over you; it will most likely lead to more good fragments of your current dream.
  • If you want to wake up, use fighting spirit! Wish your dream away, and say, "It's a dream and I want to wake up!" with all the air from your subconscious lungs and when you do get to that realization, you either wake up in spring-like motion, or if you don't, you can try to manipulate your dream from there. Once control is in effect, your dream won't last too long unless you somehow forget that it's a dream.
  • If you would like to determine whether you are in a dream or not, you can try looking for a light switch. When you find one, flick it. If the lighting within your surroundings doesn't change, you are most definitely dreaming. If the lighting changes however, flick it over and over again, until your brain can't adapt to the proper lighting.

Don't
  • When you're having a nightmare, beware; do not imagine a knife to slit your neck open, or jump off a cliff, or commit suicide of any kind, hoping to wake up at the point of death. It is proven that your brain will think that you are dead. Kids, don't try this at home. Not even your house in dreamland.
  • Don't try arguing with someone in a dream that you actually aren't dreaming; that person would just insist that you aren't dreaming, and you could hope for the worst if the dream goes on.
  • Don't always think in a dream, what you merely think of can happen, unless you think of something good. Just act. It's always better to have "alright" dreams than trying to venture into good dreams and do the opposite in the process.

Beware: If you think you've had your worst nightmare, think again. When you lack melatonin in your body (the peak of melatonin is early in the night, which gradually drops towards the morning starting 11PM, so it's best to sleep early), are suffering from extreme physical and/or mental stress, you are bound to encounter sleep paralysis. You will be in full consciousness and have all sorts of "nightmare entities" on top or around of you. The entities may vary, depending on your culture, knowledge, where you live, and were raised up. Like for example, the Japanese get girls with long black hair in white traditional dresses on top of them. I had shadow figures talking to me which made random chants, and they weren't in unison. Really creepy. You can't move, or talk; only think. Just as you try to scream with the sight of whatever you see, you feel as if you're shouting from the bottom of your lungs, yet you hear nothing and your lips do not move. You will feel helpless for at least a minute, until you eventually wake up, for real. Now, the scientific explanation for sleep paralysis is this: Once you sleep, your brain detaches itself from the rest of your body. Due to stress and other previously mentioned factors, your brain will be separated from the rest of your body, yet your eyes will remain open and keep you awake. Don't worry though, it's a once in a life time experience.[/adviceandanecdotes]
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I don't really believe that what we eat influences what we dream. I have a chronic lack of Omega 3 and yet, I have had no nightmare at least for 2 years.

Now, what you said about death by dreaming interests me as morbid as it seems. I have never heard of it, but it does kind of confirm to me that dreams are a reality on their own. I always thought about dreams being some other reality besides our own because of my realistic dreaming. I think that we visit it to process experiences and do other stuff while being in some 'save' collective consciousness.
 
@afstandopleren: I respect your right to an opinion, but just recently, I haven't been eating on a regular basis. When I do eat, it usually follows a low protein diet, and I haven't had fish in a week (hence, the lack of Omega 3). Just last night, I had the worst nightmare in a lengthy amount of time, say six months to a year. A factor that added to its immense impact towards my subconscious mental state was that it was something possible in reality, and consequently appalling me to the point of consciousness (everyone in the dream was acting like they really would). It's one of those dreams that make you wake up in the middle of the night while you pant really hard.

Your theory of there being an actual reality within dreams, is as far as science is concerned, moot. We all know that it's merely the subliminal corner of the brain, taking over while your earthly persona gets some R & R. But that's not saying that it goes the same for your mentality. However, I myself won't deny the possibility of a subliminal realm. There are some instances when I return to a place in my dreams, that I've already visited in my other dreams; but then again, it could be wishful thinking that makes me think that I've already been there in other dreams.

afstandopleren said:
Now, what you said about death by dreaming interests me as morbid as it seems. I have never heard of it, but it does kind of confirm to me that dreams are a reality on their own.
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Dying in dreams has resulted into many deaths in superstitious countries like my own. Anyhow, there's no saying that there could be other reasons behind the deaths such as physical life signs; I doubt that we have the technology to see what people do in their dreams yet, so how would they confirm that dream suicide was the cause of the person's inadvertent death?

Let's go back to your quote shall we? If killing yourself in the dream kills you in reality, that would actually prove that there is only one reality. Otherwise, you would die in the dream only and not in the real world. Still. Everything that I've said by far isn't set on stone, so feel free to exploit your freedom of expression.[/opinion]
 
Palmer said:
@afstandopleren: I respect your right to an opinion, but just recently, I haven't been eating on a regular basis. When I do eat, it usually follows a low protein diet, and I haven't had fish in a week (hence, the lack of Omega 3). Just last night, I had the worst nightmare in a lengthy amount of time, say six months to a year. A factor that added to its immense impact towards my subconscious mental state was that it was something possible in reality, and consequently appalling me to the point of consciousness (everyone in the dream was acting like they really would). It's one of those dreams that make you wake up in the middle of the night while you pant really hard.

Your theory of there being an actual reality within dreams, is as far as science is concerned, moot. We all know that it's merely the subliminal corner of the brain, taking over while your earthly persona gets some R & R. But that's not saying that it goes the same for your mentality. However, I myself won't deny the possibility of a subliminal realm. There are some instances when I return to a place in my dreams, that I've already visited in my other dreams; but then again, it could be wishful thinking that makes me think that I've already been there in other dreams.

afstandopleren said:
Now, what you said about death by dreaming interests me as morbid as it seems. I have never heard of it, but it does kind of confirm to me that dreams are a reality on their own.
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Dying in dreams has resulted into many deaths in superstitious countries like my own. Anyhow, there's no saying that there could be other reasons behind the deaths such as physical life signs; I doubt that we have the technology to see what people do in their dreams yet, so how would they confirm that dream suicide was the cause of the person's inadvertent death?

Let's go back to your quote shall we? If killing yourself in the dream kills you in reality, that would actually prove that there is only one reality. Otherwise, you would die in the dream only and not in the real world. Still. Everything that I've said by far isn't set on stone, so feel free to exploit your freedom of expression.[/opinion]
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First off, Omega 3 isn't found just in fish. I haven't eaten much fish my entire life but I make up for that by eating healthier stuff like soy and such. Maybe I am just more in control of my dreams then I thought when it comes to nightmares. =/ I haven't had them for a looooong time.

That's a bummer that you had this nightmare.:(

Despite all the research being done in the field of dreams, we only know so horribly little about what causes experiences in dreams for example. Then there is this huge lack of knowledge about the brain itself. And I also have to add that most people only use about 1 quarter of their brain capacity, making it more comprehend able that there is a good chance that there is more reality going on than we can currently perceive. Sure we know a decent deal about what physical things like foods and chemicals, influence our brain and sleep. No one in science can currently explain why I my dreams are so realistic while others are like "Meh, it was just a dream" and no one can explain why some of us are able to dream about things that have yet to happen (It's paranormal based and thus, unreal according to science). With all those factors taken into account, I personally believe that dreams are taken place in another reality until proved otherwise.

And may I remind you that the sleeping brain isn't aware of the world that we experience when we are awake?
 
@afstandopleren: Generally, what I meant to say was that this week was devoid of Omega 3, or if I had any, I had a diminutive amount. No, I don't blame my lack of nutrients solely. I blame my prevalent sum of physical stress, which involves my aberrant sleep cycle, moreover my mental state because of something that's recently happened to me that I'd rather not talk about. I've had realistic dreams myself, realistic to the point that you wouldn't realize that your having a dream within a dream, a dream within a dream within a dream, so on and so forth.

afstandopleren said:
And may I remind you that the sleeping brain isn't aware of the world that we experience when we are awake?
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Lo and behold, this always isn't the case. When my brother for example, reminds me that I have to go to school while I'm dreaming, there are copious instances wherein I know that he's talking to me, and am aware that I'm dreaming; yet I ignore him because my dream is just so complex and interesting, and to preserve it, I mustn't wake up for my lazy disposition.

Dreams are variable products of subconscious thoughts, I believe and proclaim to know. Yet, the possibility of having a separate world connected to this reality only by the dormant human mind is perplexing. Though I continue to hold on to my roots, there's no telling whether we've been living a lie all this time. Just as you also do, I will cling onto my sentiments and beliefs until your fallacies are further accredited.[/grip]
 
True, but that usually happens if you sleep light. I am too, 'aware' of the 'awake world' when I am sleeping light. It's those generally heavy sleeps, like those induced in hospitals, that make you completely 'forget' what's going in. I mean, surely you would wake up if someone was cutting into you in the 'awake world'?

And dreams within a dream are close to how I experience my dreams (Just giving an idea to how I experience all my dreams). They are so convincing that you can't believe it's a dream until it repeats itself a couple of times.....unless it's some phenomena that we have yet to discover of what it truly is.
 
I'll be a nice guy and correct the misconception that started this in the first place. Death by dreaming is in fact, unproven, but possible. What I referred to in my first post as "death by dream suicide" was that, sometimes, your subconsciousness can control the rest of your body, allowing you to look for a knife and slit your throat while you are actually sleeping. Not because of the body's response to your dream death.

I'll ignore my preconception on that standpoint and try to see this angle from your perspective. So, what you mean to claim is that suicide from "dreamland" causes death in our reality (which is what my sources allegedly assume), proving that "dreamland" is a reality as well, correct? Looking back at my initial post on this thread, I mentioned sleep paralysis. Naturally, when you go to sleep, the locomotive parts of your body, along with your conscious brain are set to "sleep mode", with the exception of your subconsciousness which is always awake. Due to physical stress, mental stress, and the abrupt awakening of your body, your eyes and your consciousness "reactivate" and are left "on".

Because you haven't fully recovered control of them, your eyes are left wide open, and the rest of your locomotive body parts stay asleep; that being said, even your consciousness is struggling to awaken which explains the dominance of your subconsciousness which causes the "figures" to appear. Because of the influence of the subconscious mind over conscious mind, we can deduce that the subconscious mind can take over the person's will to live, and manipulates it just as the conscious mind controls the locomotive parts of the body.

You will most likely say that this proves me wrong even further, because not even the conscious mind can just tell your body to die. The command to permanently shut the body down may not be available, but if your subconscious mind also gains control of your locomotive systems, this may induce similar phenomenon to sleepwalking. In a nutshell, you can die by sleepwalking, taking a knife, and killing yourself, but not just because you committed virtual suicide.[/fixingmisconceptions]
 
I've been obsessed with Lucid dreams for about a year now. Its probably because my body has not gone into REM for years. IDK. I've tried Omega-3, and all the info on the sites. No idea what to do. Any ideas?
 
z-man said:
I've been obsessed with Lucid dreams for about a year now. Its probably because my body has not gone into REM for years. IDK. I've tried Omega-3, and all the info on the sites. No idea what to do. Any ideas?
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How was it verified that you don't R.E.M. ?
 
Why do you want control of your dreams? Having no awareness of the experience you're having is a dream is what makes them so exhilarating.

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Dying from a dream? I don't believe it.
 
If you're talking about afstandopleren's theory, my sentiments exactly.

I'm cool with either kind of dream, it's just that I rarely get to control my dreams and it's always fun to try something different every now and then. :3[/lucidityisfun]
 
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