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Why is what eevee is doing rn alignment indicative and if not, why should he be forced into quoting his role PM?
This question goes out to eevee voters more than you, Cel, since your vote is currently on Jplap.
We are at 4-5
Close to a tie that will lead to a no lynch.
##VOTE:roz
Better.
@NinjaPenguin pretty sure Celever explained already why a role PM is good. Also, it has the win condition. Refusal to post that is just weird.
Close to a tie that will lead to a no lynch.
##VOTE:roz
Better.
@NinjaPenguin pretty sure Celever explained already why a role PM is good. Also, it has the win condition. Refusal to post that is just weird.
I don't know how many minutes there are left but...
What the hell is going on here...?
I just woke up, from a long second sleep (RL) and now this...?
My comments would be too late by then so I will just tell this straight: I hate to jump my votes by peer pressure. I really do. I am talking to you Celever, and before you ask: Yes, I have read your arguments.
However, what I dislike the most about eevee is not whatever his alignment is or whether he is "harmful" for town anymore. What I dislike the most is him letting things go until this point by not denying nor confirming anything until the last minute. Really, it is the worst timing.
What the hell is going on here...?
I just woke up, from a long second sleep (RL) and now this...?
My comments would be too late by then so I will just tell this straight: I hate to jump my votes by peer pressure. I really do. I am talking to you Celever, and before you ask: Yes, I have read your arguments.
However, what I dislike the most about eevee is not whatever his alignment is or whether he is "harmful" for town anymore. What I dislike the most is him letting things go until this point by not denying nor confirming anything until the last minute. Really, it is the worst timing.
Regarding the Role PM, I am pretty sure that people (including myself) can angleshoot it. (Though I am not certain what angleshooting means, I have a hunch.)
I have the feeling that you didn't read the latest three posts at all... You do realize that Celever switched to jplap because of "high risk vs high reward", right?
Does weird=scummy here?
It's between eevee and Jplap at this point and I'm in a bad dilemma so I think I'll sheep Cel because the case on Jplap has much more info that flipping him will give than flipping eevee and we still don't have a question plan we can enforce on him that I like (though we could get one in next hour I guess).
I believe eevee at this point. IDK as scum I think he'd just post a safeclaim at this much danger here instead of be stubborn like this right (unless his actual role wasn't some type of backup. Anybody thinks that's likely? I think his posting earlier lines up way too well with being backup to not be that role or have a safeclaim with it)? He's fooled me before but I think I can believe in him not being indie here. And looking back at his ISO it turns out Jplap hasn't posted in a couple of days which I guess could be anti-giving information?
Angleshooting means using out of game stuff to influence games in unfair ways. In this case, he's saying that quoting your Role PM does that.
Okay, apparently I have about 40 minutes left. Ugh... I will have to re-read all those three pages worth of discussion at Night...
My opinion on him is near rockbottom at this moment, but if he were to post his Role, then it might actually hit the bottom.
Yep. I was right, and I even agree with eevee.
My opinion on him is near rockbottom at this moment, but if he were to post his Role, then it might actually hit the bottom.
Was he even online the past couple of days?
Yeah he's posted in a couple of FGs since then and was online as recently as an hour ago according to his profile.
I see... Well, RL has its own ways so, but I hope that he'll explain Tomorrow.
Right. So? I don’t see how it contradicts my post.
Lynching indie is never to get info. It’s to avoid the risk of him achieving a win condition that wins without town. Only townies are important to keep.
...never mind me then.
As long as you're not a "leader follower" type of person, then I am fine with it.
How am I a leader follower if we vote differently? I simply agreed with some of his points about roz. Not agreeing with the other that lets him live and risk town’s lives
15 minutes left and probably no room for wagons to suddenly shift, so we gotta enforce what I think is our best plan:
@Professor_jplap If you don't ask "Is there an indie that is threat to the town?" (this one only if eevee doesn't flip indie) or "Is there any townie who has outside communication with any of the scum?" you are totally dead tomorrow. Most people disagree with me on the use of the first question so keep that in mind.
@Professor_jplap If you don't ask "Is there an indie that is threat to the town?" (this one only if eevee doesn't flip indie) or "Is there any townie who has outside communication with any of the scum?" you are totally dead tomorrow. Most people disagree with me on the use of the first question so keep that in mind.
If you ask the first question you're dead. Ask the second.
I don't think I changed my vote because of peer pressure?
I changed it because it's Day 1 and we have room for a risk. Obviously I've always been happy with either option dying, though.
If roz had complied to quoting from his role pm we probably wouldn't be in a position where a tie is so possible. At this point roz is just as much a policy lynch as any past indie role. Five minutes left wagons definitely won't change now
Fair point. I was worried you didn't read the latest posts and simply followed Celever before he changed his votes again. Glad to hear that I am wrong about you.
Good.
Yep. Figures.
Though, you should really ask the latter, jplap.
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