Finished Mafia XLI: Fight for the Dazzling Star ~ Game Over!

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Okay looked at the recent posts. I don't think Celever is a good lynch today, I guess he does seem a bit more sarcastic than usual, but I just can't see that voteweight on scum. I am reading Lord as a bit aggressive, but not enough for me to want to lynch her. I don't really know what to make of scattered and bb, it's kinda hard for me to get reads out of their posts. Although, scattered's possible vote count does read as a bit townie. I think simsands was a bit aggressive, but I don't really remember him pushing for someone like this on D1 when he was scum. I think I'm gonna vote TSM. His posts just read as a bit strange to me. ##Vote:TSM
 
The Simsands Case

The issue I have with simsands stems back to this:

@simsands - He just popped up out of nowhere with 24 hours left and suddenly pushed for Celever. This is extremely anti-town, as along with the people wagoning behind it, as it pressures town - especially the less confident - to make hasty decisions in a short time, especially if you disagree with the lynch. Why weren't you, simsands, around before that, such as when Celever was being pursued by scattered?

Now simsands responded with this one-liner defense:

I mentioned earlier that I've been busy. I did show up during scattered's pressure to point out scummy plays made by Celever, but that has still gone mostly unnoticed.
He claims he's been busy, which is fine. However, simsands also claims to have shown up during scattered's pressure to point out scummy plays... but from looking back, I barely see this at all!

I think Celever does the things that I have pointed out, but to a lesser extent, as town.
Then there's this vague, "I think", comment. To illustrate:
- simsands accuses Celever of OMGUS, sarcasm, aggressiveness and dodging
- I point out that Celever does these things as both alignments (minus dodging, which I don't see the evidence for)
- simsands responds saying that he thinks that Celever does these things to a "greater extent" as scum

You can't do much with this response. There's nothing here to refute, and it means that noone can properly defend against the accusations made. It sets up a dead end and the vagueness can give simsands a free slip in the case Celever flips town. It's very convenient.

It's just from how I remember him playing as town... That's the best I've got right now.
Then there's this. It's contradictory. If simsands can't actually give an example - even a vague one - from memory, then how does simsands remember Celever playing a certain way as town?

You've then got simsand's other posts before he popped in and pushed for Celever. Sure, simsands might be a bit busy, but he clearly wasn't busy enough to post the following stuff, and if Celever has been his biggest scum read, you'd expect to see a bit more pressure from simsands. Rather, his posts are still a bit vague. Which takes this case back to the start - simsand suddenly showing up to push on Celever is very random.
Evening!

How about a stupid stage, instead?

##VOTE: mordacazir

Since you've realized the contradiction in your post, would you like to reformulate it to give your current opinion on it?

Agreed. The fact that he added the second part about the vote weight also seemed like a way to make his post look more contributing.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Jadethepokemontrainer

I got home a bit late yesterday, so didn't have time to read through the thread. I'll try to pick my activity up, most of the things I've been busy with lately should be done with after this weekend, so I hope to have more time available from day 2 on.

@PikaMasterJesi I asked you earlier if you thought Little Cherrim's vote was simply a rookie mistake or if he should have known better. I don't think you ever responded to my question, any reason why you didn't?

Regarding the Celever business, his play style these last pages is reminding me soo much of how he was playing in Order in the Court... I don't recall him acting like this under pressure in any of the games where he was town.

I could guess what you're trying to get at, but I would prefer if you would just explain it.

The most likely thing I can think of is because he listed the three most experienced players as his scum reads, but I don't necessarily think that's scummy. There's also what you were hinting at with how he phrased it "I'm sure of it", but that's reaching even harder than I tend to do v.v

I do not think morda is scummy for thinking at least one of you three is scum, and having me guess your reason for thinking someone is scummy is just bad play.
 
I don't really see the case on simsands case as stronger than TSM's. Could you share your thoughts on the TSM case?
I think TSM is scummy, however I think he's normally scummy (if I'm wrong, please say). This is why I think he's a good lynch. For those on the fence here, you could consider the informative value, but I would definitely argue that your reads should be the main factor.

If TSM flips, you get good information on myself and scattered especially, and Celever and simsands somewhat. You also get a bit of information on those who were pushing his lynch earlier because of inactivity, but not as much.

If simsands flips, you get good information on myself, scattered and Celever, and somewhat TSM, and probably both mirdo and GM Drac as well. You potentially get information on Jesi, lord o and morda who bandwagoned after simsands, however this information is more if simsands is scum, and becomes more relevant depending on Celever's alignment.

If Celever flips, you get good information on myself, scattered, simsands, Jesi, lord o and morda all for obvious reasons.

Okay looked at the recent posts. I don't think Celever is a good lynch today, I guess he does seem a bit more sarcastic than usual, but I just can't see that voteweight on scum. I am reading Lord as a bit aggressive, but not enough for me to want to lynch her. I don't really know what to make of scattered and bb, it's kinda hard for me to get reads out of their posts. Although, scattered's possible vote count does read as a bit townie. I think simsands was a bit aggressive, but I don't really remember him pushing for someone like this on D1 when he was scum. I think I'm gonna vote TSM. His posts just read as a bit strange to me. ##Vote:TSM

I'd like to point out that just because someone didn't do a particular scummy thing as scum in the past, it doesn't make it not a scumtell. This is different if this scummy thing is something they've done as town in the past. For example, if I suddenly dropped off in activity unexplainably after being pressured, does that make me scummy? I've never done it in the past as scum, but nor have I as town.

What's stange about TSM's posts?
 
Fine, still needs like 2 more votes to ensure lynching simsands and not Celever.

##UNVOTE:
##VOTE:Simsands
 
Well, sure. Celever can live. He still put me off, but I'm gonna switch since I think the lottery could be detrimental right now, and we can lose someone we need. ##VOTE: simsands
 
By the end of the day, nobody had truly came to a consensus. Everyone had accusations at the beginning of the day, but by the middle of the day, it was chaos. As dusk approached, people finally decided to make a decision, but they never could quite decide. At the last moment, everyone decided that simsands was the best one to banish.
Simsands: Why me!!! I'm just an innocent Koopa Troopa. I think you've got this wrong here!
Nobody, however, came up to defend him, and he was banished.

Simsands's Role:
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You are Koopa Troopa and you are aligned with the Mushroom Kingdom. Although you were formerly one of Bowser’s lowest-ranking grunts, you've decided to give up that life- at least while Mario Partying is around!

Passive Ability: Tough Shell
Unless it's with the help of a Fire Flower or Star, it takes two hits to put you out of commission. Bowser especially learned it the hard way when he constantly failed to kill you in the cutscenes at the end of Mario Party 2 games. If Bowser attempts to kill you, you will hide in your shell, and that kill will be prevented. This Ability will then become locked.

Passive Ability: Hotelier

In Mario Party 8, you were the host of the board Koopa’s Tycoon Town, where players invested in your hotels. If you are targeted by any Abilities overnight, the person who targeted you will give you 1 Coin. This number will go up by one for every person who targets you. Every third person who targets you will gain a Superstar.

Superstar Ability: Warning
In Mario Party 2, you were the one who warned everyone of Bowser's attack. And this time around, you were also the one to warn everyone. So you've got a good instinct in knowing when Bowser will show up. If you have a Superstar during the night, you may PM the hosts Warn. In the day update, you will tell everyone who Bowser targeted that night.

Win Condition: Eliminate all obstacles to the Mushroom Kingdom regaining the Dazzling Star.
Seeing that they lost an important asset to discovering Bowser's identity, the heroes trudged home, wondering where the next day would take them.

Celever (3): bbninjas (36-64), scattered mind (42-104), rainyman123, (44-106), scattered mind (131-325), rainyman123 (203-), simsands (252-), PikaMasterjesi (269-), lord o da rings (272-326), mordacazir (274-279)
mirdo (0): lord o da rings (37-108), bbninjas (264-277)
@simsands (8): GM Draclord (268-), bbninjas (285-), mirdo (315-), Celever (318-), scattered mind (325-), lord o da rings (326-)
rainyman123 (0): Celever (45-152), lord o da rings (108-207)
scattered mind (0): Celever (43-45), Celever (152-273)
Double o Squirtle (0): scattered mind (104-131), rainyman123 (111-141), simsands (114-252)
PikaMasterJesi (0): GM Draclord (140-251)
Lord o da rings (0): mordacazir (48-250), bbninjas (115-211), Celever (273-318)
Epist (0): bbninjas (64-115), bbninjas (211-238)
bbninjas (2): Celever (35-43), GMDraclord (41-140), Epist (270-), TheSceptileMaster (271-)
GMDraclord (0): PikaMasterJesi (65-135)
TheSceptileMaster (1): PikaMasterJesi (135-265), rainyman123 (141-203), double o squirtle (321-)
mordacazir (0): simsands (52-114)
Cypher333 (0): mirdo (57-266)

Note: Remember to unvote. I can't count you if you don't.

Clarification on lynching:
Originally, Rule 7 said:

In the event that multiple players have over 50% of the majority vote and are tied for the highest amount of votes at the end of the day, the lynch will be determined by who reached that number of votes first.

What we meant was:

In the event that multiple players at least 50% of the majority vote and are tied for the highest amount of votes at the end of the day, the lynch will be determined by who reached that number of votes first.

It has now been corrected to what we meant.

@Cypher333 has been subbed out for @Haunted Water. HW, like this post to confirm that you have received your role.
@TheSceptileMaster, you barely dodged being modkilled. I expect more activity from you tomorrow.

Night 2 starts now, and will end on Saturday, May 27th at 8:00 AM EST. Here's a countdown.
Remember that to use the No Action Bonus, you must still PM us.
 
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A couple things I noticed: I forgot to mark down Jesi's vote on Celever.
I also never warned people to remember to unvote before this, which means their votes will be counted. Don't expect this to happen again.
This still ends in simsands being lynched. Sorry, however, for the inconvenience this caused.
 
One day left to submit Night actions! Get them in while you can.
@Haunted Water has yet to like the confirmation post. Please like it ASAP.
 
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I've had multiple players ask this questions, so I'll post it here and add it to the FAQ:
What are coins used for?
If you get 20 coins, you get a Superstar, which allows you to use your Superstar Ability. There may or may not be other ways that coins can be used.
 
Before the heroes departed last night, they spun the spinner and got that they should meet at Clockwork Castle the next day. When they arrived, however, they found that some people were missing.
Toad: Where’s Peach?
Mario: I-I killed her.
Toad: What?!
The Mushroom Kingdom circled in on Mario, trying to get him to explain his actions.
Mario: Last night, I brought my Fireball Orb, just knowing that Peach was fake. I showed up early in the Night, much to Peach’s surprise.
Peach: Mario, what are you doing here?
Mario: Her voice was gruff, unlike anything you’d ever seen. I decided that now was the time to expose her. I pulled out the Fireball Orb.
Peach: Mario, what are you doing?
Mario: I said, crying, “I’m sorry, honey, but I have to do this.” I shot the fireballs out of the orb, hitting Peach directly in the head.
Peach: Mario, what is wrong with you?
Mario: Then, her body withered away, revealing her true form.

GM Draclord's role:
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You are Bowser, and you are aligned with Bowser’s Minions. You are known as the enemy of Mario, but you feel that it does not encompass your true self. You have a life, from being a lover of Peach to a fan of Toad Force V. You stole the Dazzling Star because you thought it would be nice in your collection. After all, you are a patron of fine arts.

Passive Ability: Bowser's Minion

You are the founder and leader of Bowser’s Minions, and as such, you have the power to talk to them. You may talk to your fellow Bowser’s Minions in this QT: [Snip]

Passive Ability: Kidnapping True Love

When you stole the Dazzling Star, you knew that Peach would come to get it back. When she came to your castle in search of the Dazzling Star, you got to spend some quality (at least in your opinion) time with her. Now that she’s with you, she’s become the perfect disguise. If anyone seers your name, alignment, or role, they will see you as Peach, aligned with the Mushroom Kingdom.

Passive Ability: Walkie-Talkie
When Peach came to your castle, she brought a mushroom-shaped communication device with her, which she uses to communicate with Mario. As much as you hate him, you think that Peach could be used to manipulate him to do your bidding. You can speak with Mario (or the person with Mario as a safeclaim) in this QT: [Snip]

Passive Ability: Scammer
You will use any opportunity to get money, since you are in desperate need of funding for your personal projects. The marble busts and elegant topiaries would be fine on their own, but your castle has a lot of upkeep and your private army is not cheap. Luckily, you’ve come up with the best way to solve it, scams. If anyone not aligned with Bowser’s Minions attempts to target you during the Night, you will sell them a fake Superstar, and steal three coins from them in the process.

Active Ability: Bowser Roulette
Throughout the years, you have often appeared on Bowser Spaces, using your roulette to hand out all sorts of punishments. Now, you can use it for evil. Once a night, you must PM the hosts Roulette: [Player]. That player will have a random effect placed on them.
No Action Bonus: N/A

Active Ability: Seer Terror
Strangely enough, you are the host of a game in Mario Party 6 named Seer Terror, where you predict the fortunes of players. Now, it’s your turn to terrorize the seer. Once a night, you may PM the hosts Terrorize: [Player]. If that player attempts to use any seering abilities that night, they will be blocked and the role PM of the player they attempted to seer will be sent to you.
No Action Bonus: 2 Coins

Active Ability: Bowser Revolution
Unlocks: When you are the last member of Bowser’s Minions remaining.

Active Ability: Bowser Party
Unlocks: If a member of Bowser’s Minions was lynched the last Day.

Active Ability: Unstoppable Claws
Unlocks: If you were voted by a Mushroom Kingdom member at the end of the last day.

Superstar Ability: Bowser Games
You have hosted many torturous games in the past, from Cage-in Cookin’ to Bowser’s Bogus Bingo. Now, you can use these games to torture your opponents into submission. If you have a Superstar during the night, you may PM the hosts Torture: [Player]. That player will be subjected to constant Bowser Games, causing them to be silenced for the rest of the game, along with having a 4% chance of dying immediately. Every subsequent night, they will have the chance of them surviving halved.

Win Condition: Eliminate every player who wishes to regain possession of the Dazzling Star.

Suddenly, another one of the heroes spoke.
Daisy: Where’s that Goomba guy?
As if it was planned beforehand, a Koopa Clown Car flew across the castle and dropped a dead Goomba right next to the group.

scattered mind's role:
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You are Captain Goomba, and you are aligned with the Mushroom Kingdom. You have assembled on overseas empire that includes gambling, piracy, and appearances in many minigames. One of your gambling props involved the Dazzling Star. If Bowser ends up keeping it, it will be a large large loss for the casino, one which you can’t afford. Therefore, you must align yourself with the Mushroom Kingdom.

Passive Ability: House Always Wins

One of the lessons you have learned from your casino is that when under pressure, you can always come through, whether it is economical stability or a personal game of poker. If any player dares to push you against the wall by voting you, your vote weight will be doubled.

Active Ability: Philanthropist
Although you are a cold-hearted gambler on the outside, you are secretly a wealthy philanthropist. In fact, you gave away stars for free in Mario Party 8! You don’t have any stars to give away, but you can give away plenty of coins to anyone who impresses you. Once a night, you must PM the hosts Gift: [Player]. You will give that player 10 coins. If a member of Bowser’s Minions was hammered the last day, you must chose a player who voted for them at the end of that day. If a Mushroom Kingdom resident was hammered the last day, you may not chose any players who voted for them at the end of that day.
No Action Bonus: N/A

Superstar Ability: Referee

You serves as a referee in Mario Party 4’s volleyball mode, one of the most underrated Mario Party modes of all time. This has allowed you to become skilled at making many decisions, and players will always respect what you decide. If you have a Superstar during the day, you may PM the hosts Referee: [Player]. That player will be immediately lynched, no matter what modifiers are affecting them.

Win Condition: Eliminate all obstacles to the Mushroom Kingdom regaining the Dazzling Star.

The stage for today is Clockwork Castle.
11 players are alive, therefore 6 votes are required to lynch by majority.
Day 2 starts now, and will last 96 hours. It will end at 8:00 AM EST on Wednesday, May 31th. Here's a countdown for your convenience.
If your coin quantity changed during the night, you will receive a PM. Otherwise, assume that it has stayed the same. Also, if you believe you should have received a PM tonight, please PM us.
Finally, Celever has been silenced today.
 
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Oh yeah, that too, but I was thinking about the morda being scum thing.
Me being scum thing? Did I miss something?
Yeah, that was covered by others multiple times, I believe. And I definitely remember him as a very inactive player as scum.
I can confirm this. In Superheroes I had to warn him to not get modkilled and get 3 posts.
Why can't Celever talk? Is this a mistake @NinjaPenguin ?
 
Alright guys.
This was an eventfull night. Here is what we know:


Simsands flipped Town. Which is obviously not great.. And i contributed heavily on that on the end.
Oh well. Let's do it better today.

Second:
Bowser is dead! Which is really awesome. Because his Abilities look scary af. Apperently who ever Mario was killed him.
Which is really interessting because of this ability:

Passive Ability: Walkie-Talkie
When Peach came to your castle, she brought a mushroom-shaped communication device with her, which she uses to communicate with Mario. As much as you hate him, you think that Peach could be used to manipulate him to do your bidding. You can speak with Mario (or the person with Mario as a safeclaim) in this QT: [Snip]
But that doesn't mean that Draclord knew WHO Mario was or is. Maybe they were annoyminous in that chat? I dunno if that makes any sense.

Finally, Celever has been silenced today.
Active Ability: Seer Terror
Strangely enough, you are the host of a game in Mario Party 6 named Seer Terror, where you predict the fortunes of players. Now, it’s your turn to terrorize the seer. Once a night, you may PM the hosts Terrorize: [Player]. If that player attempts to use any seering abilities that night, they will be blocked and the role PM of the player they attempted to seer will be sent to you.
No Action Bonus: 2 Coins

Maybe those two are in correlation to each other?
Or we have a second "Silencing ability" roaming around.


Third.
Scattered Mind got killed. And he was a townie. Which is weird because i really thought he wasn't...
His weird Voteweight makes sense now at least.

This is gonna be intresting. Celever is silenced, Scattered is dead.
Means the most talkative people are not here to help.
So keep this in mind and keep beeing active. Very important especially today
 
But that doesn't mean that Draclord knew WHO Mario was or is. Maybe they were annoyminous in that chat? I dunno if that makes any sense.
I don't think QT's are not anonymous. This may be different this game but when Jesi and I were in a mason chat we knew who each other was. There's also a trend with these types of QT's where one member is town and one member is scum. I'd guess this is why Mario went with his gut and killed Drac. It also seems Mario is a vigilante.
Maybe those two are in correlation to each other?
Or we have a second "Silencing ability" roaming around.
I don't think this is a silencing ability. From how it's worded it's saying that if the target uses any seering abilities they don't get the results (in other words, the action is blocked), and Bowser would receive whatever the seer was gonna receive. That does not line up with Celever being silenced, so there's likely another silencing role somewhere.
 
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