Finished Mafia XLI: Fight for the Dazzling Star ~ Game Over!

[mordacazir]

Day 2

Well I wanna start out by saying I kinda went inactive when the whole simsands case came to be, an die I think that was an ok lynch but not really the best, but I get it, it was Day 1, not much to go off of. @mirdo who said the silencer was scum? It could very well be another player who might've thought he was scum and wanted to stop him from conversation. Not me, as I find either TSM or Lorde to be scum, and no way am I gonna let Celever's potential slip go by, it did seem like a joke, but I'm not gonna forget about it, putting BB a little but under my radar as well. TSM really just isn't super active which is scummy, and lorde for mostly all the reasons D1, but also as mirdo said with what and all she might have silenced him as a way to easily get 1 threats off her back, but it confuses me as there are other people she could've silenced as well, like scattered. To recap, lorde, bb, and TSM are seeming scummy to me.

I think Lorde wasn't scummy anymore in the later part of day 1. Atleast I did not think she was scummy.

Hmm.. now that i think about it, mirdo might actually be scum. He agreed with BB and GM drac's post, and Drac flipped scum. Mirdo isn't bad like me but he isn't necessarily good either, it could've been he was just told to vote simdsands by Drac and BB and he just went with it. Its kinda like last game with the whole thing with Blakers and me being active only last minute and all that, I was just following what camo told me to do. I'm still not really sure about BB, but I think mirdo is a good lynch today as it will provide a lot of information wether he flips scum or not. So, ##VOTE: Mirdo

Putting some more wood on the fire.

you can defend yourself and also, if you hadn't, Celever has a vote weight of 3 right? That'd would also hurt a bit as well. Not saying your scum just saying this is a small possibility, as I've already posted my biggest scumread above.

Some crazy theory about lorde having the silencing ability.

Not excatly solid evidence that mirdo and BB are scum team but the fact he's voting on TSM stands out to me. He also defended mirdo, which isn't scummy, but that also stands out to me.

Irrelevant post now, cuz they dan't be scumbuddies anymore. But it does give bbninjas some town credit for defending mirdo

Why can mirdo wait for now? And why did you vote Jesi?

I answered this and than he disappeared till day 3

 

[Professor Palutena]

HW, what makes rainy more scummy then bb?

 

[Professor Palutena]

And can someone explain rainy Lynch to me? I don't get it.

 

[Professor Palutena]

Though if he's scum, then his coach must be doing a bad job at coaching.

 

[Haunted Water]

Thank you mordacazir for that post. It just made me realize something

Hmm.. now that i think about it, mirdo might actually be scum. 1. He agreed with BB and GM drac's post, and Drac flipped scum. Mirdo isn't bad like me but he isn't necessarily good either, it could've been he was just told to vote simdsands by Drac and BB and he just went with it. Its kinda like last game with the whole thing with Blakers and me being active only last minute and all that, 2. I was just following what camo told me to do. I'm still not really sure about BB, but I think mirdo is a good lynch today as it will provide a lot of information wether he flips scum or not.

1. This doesn't incriminate rainy but incriminates bb. This post alone makes me really suspicious of bb, for a few reasons. He's a vet who I have a shaky feeling about. mirdo flipping town and the agreement have no connection, but the fact that drac and bb voted and lynched someone stands out to me.
2. You said you did it yourself.

I would end it here, but I'm doing more digging, looking around D1 for info.
BTW, I think anyone who votes celever should be questioned intensely.

Yeah, I checked the vote count and it's either scattered or rainy with the voteweight.

Oh, also, mirdo brought up a good point that I'd forgetten about.

Scum don't have voteweights of 3, unless they're an independent scum. They barely ever have voteweights of 2. It's a terrible balancing decision if a scum had a vote weight of 3, except in ultra high power games. They would win so easily if they did.

We don't have a large enough game for an indy scum, and scum having a heightened vw in this size of a game is arguably almost as OP as drac's role in itself. This fact alone puts Celever in almost confo town state.

bb would've known this and would've prevented giving this info to a less experienced player base. If he was scum, he'd have kept his mouth shut and let them lynch Celever like what was most likely going to occur D1.

This leads me to believe that if there is a coach, it's prof p.

Or TSM; quaking.

 

[Haunted Water]

Rainy looks more scummy because none of his arguments match up though.

I generally think bb is always scummy unless he claims his role and has it verified by the entire player base pretty much. But that info would shoot him in the foot.

 

[Haunted Water]

We could also consider jesi as town, as drac voted for her D1 and kept it there. He may have had the idea of tricking Celever into voting for her so he could use what I'm guessing is the other two votes on his team and hammer one townie out.

However, she does currently have a vote parked on celever, so...

 

[quakingpunch73]

Or TSM; quaking.

You said that you read me a town last page, so what is making you think I could potentially be coaching rainy?

 

[Haunted Water]

I looked back on at D1. You're still reading Town to me as it is a farfetched idea.

 

[Haunted Water]

It's so difficult following reads because of all the subs tbh.

 

[bbninjas]

HW, what makes rainy more scummy then bb?

What makes me scummy? All those points you brought up were reachy, exaggerated or out of context, so why are you still holding onto them?

bbninjas: Scum. Very good with trickery, as I've experienced. He excels at it, so it may be possible he could be our veteren scum.

I generally think bb is always scummy unless he claims his role and has it verified by the entire player base pretty much. But that info would shoot him in the foot.

Uh, how many times did you play with me, and how long ago was that? Your meta reads of me have been mostly off for the entirity of the game, and things such as the bolded aren't true; in fact, I've role-claimed as scum a few times and have gotten away with it. I'm a gutsy player, sure, but finding me scummy because I'm "very good with trickery" and that it "may be possible" I'm scum is just WIFOM.

1. This doesn't incriminate rainy but incriminates bb. This post alone makes me really suspicious of bb, for a few reasons. He's a vet who I have a shaky feeling about. mirdo flipping town and the agreement have no connection, but the fact that drac and bb voted and lynched someone stands out to me.

This operates under the assumption that town and scum don't vote with each other, or at least, that this scenario is unlikely, which is not true. But even then, why would I as scum push for simsands, right after knowing a scumbuddy voted for them, when I could have easily pushed for someone else, or Celever, and avoid the risk of linking myself to that scumbuddy?

On that note, I'm going to do some ISOs.

 

[Professor Palutena]

This leads me to believe that if there is a coach, it's prof p.

Doesn't make sense considering I just joined the game on Day 3, which is when rainy started appearing on people's scumdars. The people I replaced weren't as experienced as me either, so this theory holds no water.

The far likelier scenario is that there isn't any coaching going on.

 

[Haunted Water]

Fair enough

I'm starting to feel quaking may be scum. It's entirely possible that all of the vets could be Town, I'm just going to do some research for now. All of these subs are confusing.

 

[Haunted Water]

I'm actually buying that theory prof p

 

[Lorde]

That's kinda mean, are you saying I cant play well on my own?

You're taking what I said out of context. I never said you weren't capable, I just said that it's unusual for you.

We could also consider jesi as town, as drac voted for her D1 and kept it there. He may have had the idea of tricking Celever into voting for her so he could use what I'm guessing is the other two votes on his team and hammer one townie out.

A scum team doing that D1 is stupid. If there was a scum team with any veterans on it nothing like that would have happened, and it didn't. There's probably a vet on the scum team.

I looked back on at D1. You're still reading Town to me as it is a farfetched idea.

TSM and Quaking seem to play differently though, and putting quaking at fault for what TSM did, or rather didn't do isn't fair to him and could very well end up in a townie lynch. I'm not saying quaking is town I'm just saying I wouldn't change my read based on how TSM played.

Irrelevant post now, cuz they dan't be scumbuddies anymore. But it does give bbninjas some town credit for defending mirdo

It looked really well thought out imho, like he was trying to appear like he was reading him correctly but he could've easily been scum and been trying to get town cred. You could be right, but take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Professor Palutena]

What makes me scummy? All those points you brought up were reachy, exaggerated or out of context, so why are you still holding onto them?

Because it's still a better wagon than anything else suggested thus far.

 

[Epist]

##VOTE: Haunted Water
just seems a little more frantic today than D1 or D2, which is scummy to me.

Concur, he flips who he thinks is scum regularly...

Fair enough

I'm starting to feel quaking may be scum. It's entirely possible that all of the vets could be Town, I'm just going to do some research for now. All of these subs are confusing.

I keep wavering between Haunted and bb as scum, although I keep going back to Haunted due to his inability to answer direct questions, instead deflecting to the "scum of the hour" candidate

 

[bbninjas]

Funny that you brought up quaking, Haunted, since during my ISO earlier I noticed an interesting link between TSM (quaking) and GM Drac. I'm going to finish my post up shortly.

Because it's still a better wagon than anything else suggested thus far.

Okay, that's fair enough.

 

[Haunted Water]

I keep wavering between Haunted and bb as scum, although I keep going back to Haunted due to his inability to answer direct questions, instead deflecting to the "scum of the hour" candidate

Obviously you've never played with camoclone.

 

[Haunted Water]

also lol at you not asking direct questions.