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@Celever Didn't you say TSM was confirmed Town for you? Did i miss something?

And yeah i just used the good old ctrl+c and ctrl + v because i don't really understand how the other quoting works.

My main points against Lord were (and are)
-Relative inactivity / lurking in the shadows.
-a "weird" ability which, sure makes sense in combination with batman but really much could be just be a cover up as there is not much sense to it and if you use it to claim, the others won't really think there is anything wrong with it. The ideal Safe Claim.
-And her reaction to me calling her out a few pages back. For as little of a call out that i made she went pretty "Hedgehog curl in a ball defense" on me and went ham on me.
 
@mirdo, I don't really like to be the aggressor, but at this point of the game, when we are close to just losing and no one is sharing any opinions, we have to do something. No one else was calling people out so I decided to do so myself. You can not like it, but fact is, we needed discussion, and while it hasn't stepped up as much as I would like, it has increased, which is good, because Celever just outright dodged a fairly basic question at the point of the game where that looks extremely suspicious. and other people have raised concerns that no one had previously commented on.

I haven't used my ability at all this game, I tend to be extremely conservative with one shot effects, especially when I don't trust anyone, which I haven't had any reason to trust people this game.

@Celever, what changed about TSM being Scum or Town? I honestly can't believe you responded the way you did to this, it really makes me think this was all an elaborate play which terrify's me. I would much rather believe you are town and not have to risk things as they are.
@Little Cherrim your silence here is also awkward and really isn't helping my feelings towards this. Do you think Celever is confo town? You said you would add things later, but realize we don't have a ton of time

I will also put out, I am still happy with a Lorde lynch, I think she is a safe option personally, though I have outlined the fact I am naturally untrusting of Masons thanks to the previous game.

(also p.s. Mirdo you spelt comprehend correctly ^w^)
 
mordacazir said:
Somehow this looks real scummy to me.
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Nothing I do is scummy. I'm clean.

Who's your biggest scumread right now mord? You're very scummy.
Vracken said:
Celever just outright dodged a fairly basic question
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Wait, where? :p
@Celever, what changed about TSM being Scum or Town? I honestly can't believe you responded the way you did to this, it really makes me think this was all an elaborate play which terrify's me. I would much rather believe you are town and not have to risk things as they are.
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TSM is town. He's un-counterclaimed doctor. I just wanted him to post so that when I go "post more please" he can't just ignore it. :U
 
mirdo said:
My main points against Lord were (and are)
-Relative inactivity / lurking in the shadows.
-a "weird" ability which, sure makes sense in combination with batman but really much could be just be a cover up as there is not much sense to it and if you use it to claim, the others won't really think there is anything wrong with it. The ideal Safe Claim.
-And her reaction to me calling her out a few pages back. For as little of a call out that i made she went pretty "Hedgehog curl in a ball defense" on me and went ham on me.
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This has been addressed. I am a quiet person. If you look at last season, I was actually subbed out for being too quiet, but I was town. DOS subbed in for me, and had a town role (which was mine). I just play a quiet game.

Why is it a weird ability? No one else has claimed anything that syncs up with what Batman had, except for me. Jesi had a QT with somebody. No one else has claimed they were that other player (and if they did, I'd know they were scum). Also, wouldn't the best safe claims be the ones that aren't completely powerless? It makes you look more like a normal player if you're not powerless and night actionless like myself. In my opinion this would be a horrible safeclaim for a player in the mafia.

Well I was defending myself. Something you're supposed to do in his game. But even before you called me out I had thought of you as suspicious as your responses had been shifty since before that.
 
Celever said:
Nothing I do is scummy. I'm clean.
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Really? o_O
Celever said:
Who's your biggest scumread right now mord? You're very scummy.
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My biggest scumread? Mirdo, lorde and you. If I had to vote someone then that would be you or Lorde, because I don't really see enough evidence for mirdo being scum. If I'm missing things pls say, cause I have the feeling that is the case, because otherwise people wouldn't vote for him. Vrakcen and TSM seem the most towny to me right now.
Lord o da rings said:
Why is it a weird ability? No one else has claimed anything that syncs up with what Batman had, except for me. Jesi had a QT with somebody. No one else has claimed they were that other player (and if they did, I'd know they were scum). Also, wouldn't the best safe claims be the ones that aren't completely powerless? It makes you look more like a normal player if you're not powerless and night actionless like myself. In my opinion this would be a horrible safeclaim for a player in the mafia.
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I think I have played in a Mafia game where a scum member had a chat with a town member.
 
Celever said:
And in that case, make an entire post focussing on Lorde. She is my second-highest scumread, very close with TSM. If you bring up some good points I could change my vote.
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the fact that you called TSM a high scum read. You didn't tell him to post more, you just called him scum, there is nothing about posting more in this post with regards to him.

TheSceptileMaster said:
Um what, @Celever. You went from me being confo town to hgih scum. Please explain
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There you go the question you skipped that I basically reasked as a question

Now you are claiming Mord is scum as well, and I assume Mirdo is still your top one. This is all very strange to me since I know you are better than this. I think you have a lot of explaining to do :/


Lorde that response is ok, but it doesn't really address our concerns. Best safe claims are irrelevant, that is up to the hosts, plus it doesn't even matter that much unless you have targeted abilities. It isn't really weird to me, mason chats are not an uncommon fixture from what I have gathered, I just can't think of any I have seen between two townies
 
Vracken said:
the fact that you called TSM a high scum read. You didn't tell him to post more, you just called him scum, there is nothing about posting more in this post with regards to him.



There you go the question you skipped that I basically reasked as a question

Now you are claiming Mord is scum as well, and I assume Mirdo is still your top one. This is all very strange to me since I know you are better than this. I think you have a lot of explaining to do :/


Lorde that response is ok, but it doesn't really address our concerns. Best safe claims are irrelevant, that is up to the hosts, plus it doesn't even matter that much unless you have targeted abilities. It isn't really weird to me, mason chats are not an uncommon fixture from what I have gathered, I just can't think of any I have seen between two townies
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Because you didn't tag him: @Celever
 
mordacazir said:
Really? o_O
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Yeah, I protected Little Cherrim last night hence the no nightkill.
My biggest scumread? Mirdo, lorde and you. If I had to vote someone then that would be you or Lorde, because I don't really see enough evidence for mirdo being scum. If I'm missing things pls say, cause I have the feeling that is the case, because otherwise people wouldn't vote for him. Vrakcen and TSM seem the most towny to me right now.
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Little Cherrim is clean and mirdo's role is essentially the same as LC's, but a little weaker. Regardless, place a vote on someone.
I think I have played in a Mafia game where a scum member had a chat with a town member.
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That's circumstantial, though. It's not particularly common.
Vracken said:
the fact that you called TSM a high scum read. You didn't tell him to post more, you just called him scum, there is nothing about posting more in this post with regards to him.
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Did he post as soon as I said he was scum? Yes. That was the aim. I was just manipulating him a little bit to try and coerce him into contributing, which evidently still hasn't happened. It was the best any of us could do though. :p
There you go the question you skipped that I basically reasked as a question
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I already answered the question in the original post. He didn't change in terms of a read at all, because he's uncounterclaimed doctor.
Now you are claiming Mord is scum as well, and I assume Mirdo is still your top one. This is all very strange to me since I know you are better than this. I think you have a lot of explaining to do :/
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Mirdo is top, Lorde second, mord very close to Lorde. I didn't say mord is scum, I said he's very scummy, which he is. All 3 of them are.
 
I know you answered the question, I was just reaffirming that you skipped it when TSM made the request, and pointing it out since you asked.

You can claim that was just you trying to manipulate that, but surely you can understand why that would come across extremely poorly to others, it made you look flaky. I haven't pushed TSM further, because I don't think he actually has anything to add, as indicative from his previous response to me, and his response to you has only increased my suspicion of that.
 
Vracken said:
I know you answered the question, I was just reaffirming that you skipped it when TSM made the request, and pointing it out since you asked.

You can claim that was just you trying to manipulate that, but surely you can understand why that would come across extremely poorly to others, it made you look flaky. I haven't pushed TSM further, because I don't think he actually has anything to add, as indicative from his previous response to me, and his response to you has only increased my suspicion of that.
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It shouldn't look flaky because only a fool would claim TSM is scummy. He's an uncounterclaimed doctor. And I replied to it before you said I dodged it.
mordacazir said:
Why am I scummy?
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I've said it before.
 
Where did you answer it? You made one post between TSM asking and me re asking (below, does not answer the question at all). Then you answered, and I just responded to you asking "what question" :/

Celever said:
Oh, good. You are alive. Post please.

That was all :p
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This is all kind of unimportant to what is actually going on, but I am just being left confused by it all

And Mord, you are scummy because you haven't really done anything. You can't be on the fence forever because we are nearing the timeline for do or die, and the longer you take to make a decision, the less time people have to come up with relevant counter arguments that could result in garnering more information
 
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