Why are you focusing on that? That wasn't the point of dos' post.
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Why are you focusing on that? That wasn't the point of dos' post.
@King Xerneas How's that PM coming along?
Oh yeah that thing. A few moments please.
I was simply pointing it out, so it confirms that there are only 4 members of the B faction, cause Celever wouldn't write false info on the front.
Don't lynch double-o mindlessly on the assumption that we wouldn't lose the game.
^Emphasis mine.
Adding to what you guys are saying, I think that fact we're in LYLO means that Muffin and DoS have to be town. That and don't masons know each other's alignment? I remember there was a quick neighbor vs mason debate and that's what I got out of it.
I believe that debate determined that Celever uses those terms interchangeably as just a chat.
I don't understand how it's LYLO if it's 4 v 6 doesn't LYLO mean if u don't lynch you lose??
If both Muffin and DoS are town, if we lynch Muffin, DoS goes down too (and vice versa), so we'd be at 4v4 and unless they decide to pull what they did to PMJ on me, we'd be at 4v3 by D5 and lose, unless they just need to reach parity, which in that case once we're at 4v4 we lose....I think that made sense.
Basically what TAE said. And I think it's safe to assume that scum wins if they achieve parity. Or, well, it's not safe not to assume that.
I honestly think the best course of action is just to lynch them. Muffin is the scummiest player in the game rn, and dos has done a couple questionable things, too.
@double o squirtle @Mr.Muffin –– thoughts? defenses? alternative lynch options assuming you are in fact town?
Wouldn't that be a MYLO situation, since in LYLO you must lynch a scum to continue the game. Looking at it here, if it's 4 v 7, if nobody is lynched and only 1 person is killed by a night kill (or even 2), it would be 5 v 4, and wouldn't it be LYLO then?
Either way, scum needs to be lynched like now >.>
I wish I can contribute with like hard factual evidence about someone, but I don't have anything >.>
I wish I can contribute with like hard factual evidence about someone, but I don't have anything >.>
LYLO is that if we mislynch we lose (MYLO and LYLO are interchangeable). Plus we're at 10 players, so it's 4v6. With a mislynch and a successful nightkill we'll lose.
Oh >.>
but doesn't the master thread say this :U, (that's why I was confused
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LYLO - See Lynch or Lose.
Lynch or Lose - A game state in which the town must lynch scum in order to avoid losing. Commonly abbreviated as LYLO.
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Also 4 v 4 can still win in a Day Vig + Doctor situation.
but doesn't the master thread say this :U, (that's why I was confused
)LYLO - See Lynch or Lose.
Lynch or Lose - A game state in which the town must lynch scum in order to avoid losing. Commonly abbreviated as LYLO.
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Also 4 v 4 can still win in a Day Vig + Doctor situation
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It's the same regardless. You either lynch scum and survive the day, or mislynch and lose. I'm not sure what set-up Celever have the scum under, but if their wincon is parity that hypothetical you came up with won't matter. But that's enough speculation.Oh >.>
but doesn't the master thread say this :U, (that's why I was confused
LYLO - See Lynch or Lose.
Lynch or Lose - A game state in which the town must lynch scum in order to avoid losing. Commonly abbreviated as LYLO.
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Also 4 v 4 can still win in a Day Vig + Doctor situation
@TheSceptileMaster @NinjaPenguin @Mr.Muffin @scattered mind
where ya at?? Any thoughts on our little dilemna?
I don't get it, why would the fact we are at LYLO mean that DoS and Mr.Muffin is town? Why do you think that Celever would consider the DoS-MrMuffin connection in the general majority statement? As far as it concerns the host, we might lynch any other person. By that logic, he should have given two options (7 or 8 to lynch or something like that), or am I missing something?
They're not masons, they're lovers. Since Reinforce picked them, their alignments are irrelevant to their partnership. They could be two scum, they could be two town or any other combination of factions.
Looking at the player count, we should be in MYLO (Note that the difference between MYLO and LYLO is that town loses after going two town members down in MYLO while losing after going one member down in LYLO). For some reason the day update says we're in LYLO. I assume this is because Celever's got the two mixed up, but there might be some unknown effect in play, so we may want to be a bit careful.
If we're in MYLO, we simply need to kill a scum. It's fine if we in that same process loses one town member, making the dos+Muffin lynch the safest one, because we have two shots at hitting scum, plus the fact that Mr. Muffin has that scummy-sounding ability. However, if they're both town, we auto-lose, without any chance at salvaging the situation, such as with a doctor, vig, or if the scum decide to attack KX again.
If we're in LYLO, we have to kill a scum and only a scum. The dos+Muffin lynch is not viable unless they're both scum, and I'm at the very least town-reading dos. If this is the case, we have to go for someone else. My suggestion then would be TheFlyingPidove.
In either case, I believe Mr. Muffin should claim.
Some effect is increasing the lynch majority by one. As far as I know, the only effect this has on the game is that it's harder to end the day prematurely, and that it's harder to lynch a person who can only be lynched at majority, or under the effect of one of Jesi's game phases.
I'm leaning for Muffin's lynch, actually, so if we can survive and still lynch both me and Muffin I'd be fine with that. If we really do need to lynch one scum and only one scum, then I do think TFP or TSM should be lynched. Out of everyone playing, Jabber and KX are confo town to me. If we consider that we need to lynch only one scum, then that rules out me and Muffin. Leaving TFP, TSM, simsands, scattered, TAE and NP. Imo out of these people, TFP is the scummiest and then TSM.
We need @Celever to confirm it's LYLO instead of MYLO before proceeding. If it's LYLO, we need to lynch someone else (even though have a scumread on both of them, the chance of both of them being scum are small). If it's MYLO, we should lynch DoS/Muffin.
I don't like Muffin dodging my question, so my vote still stands.
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