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MEGA Blastoise / Keldeo Ex / Blastoise / Milotic - Great Deck

ale.543

Bending Lightning
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Experience: Intermediate

Pokemon
  • 2 Blastoise (with Deluge)
  • 1 Wartortle
  • 3 Squirtle (with Shell Shield)
  • 2 Keldeo Ex
  • 2 Suicune (Safeguard)
  • 3 Milotic (with Clear Search)
  • 3 Feebas (with Fast Evolution)
  • 1 Mega Blastoise Ex
  • 1 Blastoise Ex
Total: 18 Pokemon

Trainers
  • 2 Glacia's Stadium
  • 2 Cilan
  • 3 Professor Oak's New Theory
  • 2 Pokemon Communication
  • 2 Pokemon Collector
  • 3 Rare Candy
  • 1 Gold Potion (Ace-Spec)
  • 2 Fisherman
  • 2 Skyla
  • 3 Max Revive
  • 2 Float Stone
Total: 24 Trainers

Energy
  • 18 Basic Water

Strategy
Take out Feebas, fast evolve it into Milotic in order to use Clear Search, with it search for the Blastoise line (for quicker energy usage-Deluge), then as Milotic will probably survive two turns... get either Suicune (if facing an Ex), Kaldeo Ex (for a big hit to the active pokemon), or MEGA Blastoise (to spread damage)... If less than the available three cards through Clear Search are used, then get a Cilan, for energy while Deluge will let you put them all down at once... Glacia's Stadium is to counter the excesive weakness against grass... The ideal way to evolve to Blastoise is using Rare Candy due to that thanks to Shell Shield he will be untouchable in the bench... One Wartortle is added though as a just in case...

Any advice/opinion regarding the deck is appreciated... Thanks :)
 
As you Deck is only using Water Pokémon, I'd recomment to drop the Blastoise line and add Feraligatr with Rain Dance, and add Croconaw from Mysterious Treasures, especially since you use 18 Water Energies. Also drop your stadium for Dawn Stadium, as it's really broken with Rain Dance! You can also think about adding Phione with Call Energy.
 
Sheodon said:
As you Deck is only using Water Pokémon, I'd recomment to drop the Blastoise line and add Feraligatr with Rain Dance, and add Croconaw from Mysterious Treasures, especially since you use 18 Water Energies. Also drop your stadium for Dawn Stadium, as it's really broken with Rain Dance! You can also think about adding Phione with Call Energy.

Thanks for the advise :) ...
Dawn Stadium and Call energy would be a nice adds, I'll consider these further, but why is it you recommend Feraligatr (Rain Dance) over Blastoise (Deluge)? The two have the same ability and I would think Blastoise to be better because of its attack of 60+ 10 damage for each water energy attached, this deck being monocolored and the required energy to attack being all white energy...
 
ale.543 said:
Sheodon said:
As you Deck is only using Water Pokémon, I'd recomment to drop the Blastoise line and add Feraligatr with Rain Dance, and add Croconaw from Mysterious Treasures, especially since you use 18 Water Energies. Also drop your stadium for Dawn Stadium, as it's really broken with Rain Dance! You can also think about adding Phione with Call Energy.

Thanks for the advise :) ...
Dawn Stadium and Call energy would be a nice adds, I'll consider these further, but why is it you recommend Feraligatr (Rain Dance) over Blastoise (Deluge)? The two have the same ability and I would think Blastoise to be better because of its attack of 60+ 10 damage for each water energy attached, this deck being monocolored and the required energy to attack being all white energy...

There is no diference between Blastoise and Feraligatr, but there is a difference between Wartortle and Croconaw, and Squirtle and Totodile. That's why. Rain Dance user is just a supporter, not your main attacker. Of course, it's still your deck and your choice which one do you want to use, but I prefer Feraligatr.
 
Sheodon said:
ale.543 said:
Thanks for the advise :) ...
Dawn Stadium and Call energy would be a nice adds, I'll consider these further, but why is it you recommend Feraligatr (Rain Dance) over Blastoise (Deluge)? The two have the same ability and I would think Blastoise to be better because of its attack of 60+ 10 damage for each water energy attached, this deck being monocolored and the required energy to attack being all white energy...

There is no diference between Blastoise and Feraligatr, but there is a difference between Wartortle and Croconaw, and Squirtle and Totodile. That's why. Rain Dance user is just a supporter, not your main attacker. Of course, it's still your deck and your choice which one do you want to use, but I prefer Feraligatr.


Ooh Ok, Thanks... :) Checked out the cards you meant and to be honest I'll probably just stick to Blastoise because my strategy is to take out squirtle, it having Shell Shield as long as it is on the bench it can't get hurt, and evolving through the use of Rare Candy it'll jump straight to Blastoise... I see it more as a surprise play, as with this my game could change drastically in one turn, putting down Blastoise and with it all the energy in my hand... Still, your recommendation of Feraligart is Great for people that would like to go another way at it without sacrificing the energy flexibility...
Thanks again for the advice :)
 
ale.543 said:
Sheodon said:
There is no diference between Blastoise and Feraligatr, but there is a difference between Wartortle and Croconaw, and Squirtle and Totodile. That's why. Rain Dance user is just a supporter, not your main attacker. Of course, it's still your deck and your choice which one do you want to use, but I prefer Feraligatr.

Ooh Ok, Thanks... :) Checked out the cards you meant and to be honest I'll probably just stick to Blastoise because my strategy is to take out squirtle, it having Shell Shield as long as it is on the bench it can't get hurt, and evolving through the use of Rare Candy it'll jump straight to Blastoise... I see it more as a surprise play, as with this my game could change drastically in one turn, putting down Blastoise and with it all the energy in my hand... Still, your recommendation of Feraligart is Great for people that would like to go another way at it without sacrificing the energy flexibility...
Thanks again for the advice :)

Don't forget that Dark is a competition of Rain Dance decks and they are suffering from disadvantage during that match-up. Sableye (both SF and DEX) are really effective, the first one stuns you, while the second one is a perfect toolbox card. Spiritomb can really hurt your concept, as it locks down your trainer plays, that's why I prefer to be as stable as possible. (And don't forget about Darkrai (EX) either.) I played several times with Rain Dance during (balanced) Unlimited format (Donk was banned), and the worst match-ups were always against Dark Control Decks.

This may will sound weird, but how about a Fairy tech against them? Wigglytuff (XY 90) may actually work really well with the Deck.
 
A couple things I would suggest regarding the energy and revival are:

-2 Cilan
-1 Water Energy
+3 Professor's Letter



3 letters will let you search for the same amount of energy as the 2 Cilan, but you don't have to use your supporter for the turn.

BTW I like that you found a way to use a Mega, hopefully it works. :D
 
Sheodon said:
ale.543 said:
Ooh Ok, Thanks... :) Checked out the cards you meant and to be honest I'll probably just stick to Blastoise because my strategy is to take out squirtle, it having Shell Shield as long as it is on the bench it can't get hurt, and evolving through the use of Rare Candy it'll jump straight to Blastoise... I see it more as a surprise play, as with this my game could change drastically in one turn, putting down Blastoise and with it all the energy in my hand... Still, your recommendation of Feraligart is Great for people that would like to go another way at it without sacrificing the energy flexibility...
Thanks again for the advice :)

Don't forget that Dark is a competition of Rain Dance decks and they are suffering from disadvantage during that match-up. Sableye (both SF and DEX) are really effective, the first one stuns you, while the second one is a perfect toolbox card. Spiritomb can really hurt your concept, as it locks down your trainer plays, that's why I prefer to be as stable as possible. (And don't forget about Darkrai (EX) either.) I played several times with Rain Dance during (balanced) Unlimited format (Donk was banned), and the worst match-ups were always against Dark Control Decks.

This may will sound weird, but how about a Fairy tech against them? Wigglytuff (XY 90) may actually work really well with the Deck.

I see what your getting at, but there are actually no Dark Decks in my area that I know of and to put in Wigglytuff I'd have to make a couple of changes... It's not weird, it's actually Good advice and I would recommend it as well for people who are looking to go another way, maybe taking out Suicune along with some other cards, but from when I posted to now I've made the deck and played it a couple of times, it runs extremely well, being monocolored and with cards like Milotic and Blastoise (Deluge)... If I were to get Milotic on my first hand I'm set up by my second turn, if not usually on or before the fourth...
Thanks for taking the time to give this advice... :)


Carpey said:
A couple things I would suggest regarding the energy and revival are:

-2 Cilan
-1 Water Energy
+3 Professor's Letter



3 letters will let you search for the same amount of energy as the 2 Cilan, but you don't have to use your supporter for the turn.

BTW I like that you found a way to use a Mega, hopefully it works. :D

I actually made the deck and played it a couple of times before, put one Professors Letter in the mean time, I was waiting for other cards I had ordered to arrive, and I gotta say it works perfectly in this deck, although I wouldn't take out Cilan as most of the Pokemon in this deck use three energy to attack and Professors letter would have in some occasions left me short... If I already have Milotic on my active spot and Blastoise (Deluge) on my bench, which by the way has happened, I use clear search to look for Cilan, Professors letter, and Keldeo and in one turn after searching for energy I already have him doing 150 damage which can OHKO a lot of Pokemon... So at least that's why I like Cilan, apart from card space :D
I think that to make space for Professors Letter what I did was I put Glacia's Stadium on a side deck and just added two :) but they help a lot...
Thanks for taking the time to give this advice... :)

Answering your BTW, Thanks :) and it works really Great :D you wouldn't believe how often I get Mega Blastoise out it being just one card, with the help of Milotic and Pokemon Communication of course... I've come to really enjoy this deck and, although others may have based on the cards, I actually didn't expect for it to run this well :)...
 
ale.543 said:
I see what your getting at, but there are actually no Dark Decks in my area that I know of and to put in Wigglytuff I'd have to make a couple of changes... It's not weird, it's actually Good advice and I would recommend it as well for people who are looking to go another way, maybe taking out Suicune along with some other cards, but from when I posted to now I've made the deck and played it a couple of times, it runs extremely well, being monocolored and with cards like Milotic and Blastoise (Deluge)... If I were to get Milotic on my first hand I'm set up by my second turn, if not usually on or before the fourth...
Thanks for taking the time to give this advice... :)

If you have no Dark Decks in your area, then you're lucky the Fairy Tech is not needed. Currently your toughest match-ups are Dark and Donk, and I think you actually have the tools to counter a Donk, and the lack o Dark Decks will make your deck work really fine.
 
Sheodon said:
ale.543 said:
I see what your getting at, but there are actually no Dark Decks in my area that I know of and to put in Wigglytuff I'd have to make a couple of changes... It's not weird, it's actually Good advice and I would recommend it as well for people who are looking to go another way, maybe taking out Suicune along with some other cards, but from when I posted to now I've made the deck and played it a couple of times, it runs extremely well, being monocolored and with cards like Milotic and Blastoise (Deluge)... If I were to get Milotic on my first hand I'm set up by my second turn, if not usually on or before the fourth...
Thanks for taking the time to give this advice... :)

If you have no Dark Decks in your area, then you're lucky the Fairy Tech is not needed. Currently your toughest match-ups are Dark and Donk, and I think you actually have the tools to counter a Donk, and the lack o Dark Decks will make your deck work really fine.

Although, Thanks to your advice now I'll know how to counter Dark Decks if some where to appear later on :) I actually hadn't considered them a threat previous to you pointing it out...
And Yes, up to now my deck has worked better than expected :)... The matches I've lost with it have been due to me not being familiarized with the cards and the fact that since I was ordering cards, some Trainers came in later...
Thanks Again :)...
 
ale.543 said:
Sheodon said:
If you have no Dark Decks in your area, then you're lucky the Fairy Tech is not needed. Currently your toughest match-ups are Dark and Donk, and I think you actually have the tools to counter a Donk, and the lack o Dark Decks will make your deck work really fine.

Although, Thanks to your advice now I'll know how to counter Dark Decks if some where to appear later on :) I actually hadn't considered them a threat previous to you pointing it out...
And Yes, up to now my deck has worked better than expected :)... The matches I've lost with it have been due to me not being familiarized with the cards and the fact that since I was ordering cards, some Trainers came in later...
Thanks Again :)...

Dark is your worst match-up as they are small, but effective since the first turn of the game (just think about their abilities). However, the Rain Dance (except control variant) cannot do anything during the first turns of the game, just building up their combo. That's why it's a dangerous method to build only on the combo in my opinion, but you did a nice job with Milotic in this case. The worst is that they definitely will start because of Sableye, then switch it to Darkrai EX (and oh god why, they now even have Yveltal EX) to FTK (First-Turn Kill) or OTK (One-Turn Kill) you.

Anything which is similar to the concept I mentioned is potentially dangerous to you. Keep up the good work with your Deck, by the way!
 
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