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Mewperior (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

Matryoshka

Matryoshka

Hi, I'm a scrub
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Hey everyone. I know Mewperior is a great deck, but IDK what to take out for Blaziken FB X. Please help.

Pokemon:

4 Mew Prime
2 Rhyperior X
3 Sableye SF
1 Azelf LA
1 Blaziken FB
1 Blaziken FB X

12

Supporters:

4 Palmer's
4 Collector
3 Judge
1 Bebe's Search

12

Energy:

12 Psychic
4 Call
4 Warp
4 Cyclone
4 Rescue
4 Rainbow
4 Fire

36

Strategy: See off the bulky stage two lv. X to use in basic form with Mew Prime, and hit for usually 150-250 with this list.

PLEASE test the deck before replying.

Oh, and I don't want Delcatty.
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

Why just one Smeargle? 4 or none. Should be a lead like Sableye SF. So either -3 Sableye for +3 Smeargle, or visa versa. I'd personally go with Smeargle. Can t1 a Collector/any other supporter.
Hurm, try using Research Documents from CoL. Getta look at the top 4 cards of your deck, and move as many to the bottom as you want.

I don't see why you'd need so many Calls and Rescue.
I mean you already have Palmer's. Take out all the call and rescue.
Leaves you 8 slots free. Enough for a 1-1 Blaziken FB, and 6 Fire Energies.

I'd also definitely run some Seeker for the chance of a Seeker Donk at the start.
(Happened to me at my first game at Cities.)
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

Smeargle isn't the ideal starter. It doesn't get out 2 Rhyperior X sitting in my hand with Judge, nor does it guarantee a supporter.

Research Records is pretty nice, but I can't find the space.

Call is for anti donk and Rescue is just a good card. I don''t see why I don't need them.

I was considering Seeker also for the same reason.
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

Then go with 4 Sableye.
One or the other, anything else will be too inconsistent.
But why 4 Rescue when you have 4 Palmer's?
Most, if not all of your Rescue Energies will be discarded from Rhyperior X, so why not replace them with Research Records.

Oh.

Delcatty PT.
Speaks for itself ;)
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

Smeargle and Q has been proven a great tech, if not a staple. Since it works as a sableye equivelant, I decided to replace a Sableye for one. But I'd rather start with Sableye, so I run 3. If I were to take out Smeargle, I wouldn't add in a 4th sableye. In fact, I'd take out all Warp Energy and Q.

That's sort of the point. It gets discarded and adds but if I have to draw into it, no harm comes either. 4 Palmer's is not enough as those get discarded as well.

Delcatty's OK, but I prefer not to run it.

Also, please tell me how you base off these statements. Have you played the deck?
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

Delcatty is a GUARANTEED 100 Damage. Along with Dialga 5/whatever PL, that's a guaranteed 250. Combo with SSU/Seeker, and shazam.
Or use Delcatty, then Research records. A guaranteed 100, + 3 other potential energies if you decide to put two on the bottom.

I really don't see why you wouldn't. Just because it's a non-meta deck, doesn't mean it can't be half-decent.
I'd even consider using Night Teleporter if your hand is full of energies.

Pokemon: 19

4 Mew Prime
2 Rhyperior X
4 Sableye SF
2-2 Delcatty PL
1-1 Blaziken FB X
1 Dialga PL (Reverse Time)
1 Unown Q
1 Azelf LA

TSS: 17

2 Palmer's Contribution
2 Broken Time Space
3 Pokemon Collector
2 Pokemon Communication
3 Seeker
3 Super Scoop Up
2 Rearch Documents/Record/WhateveritscalledIdon'tremember

Energy: 24

4 Rescue
2 Warp
18 Psychic

Read some of these:

http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=91186&highlight=Mewperior
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=90651&highlight=Mewperior
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=90299&highlight=Mewperior
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=90479&highlight=Mewperior
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=90485&highlight=Mewperior

A simple search got me this. I looked at these after I made the decklist.
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

4 Mew Prime
2 Rhyperior X
3-3 Delcatty PL
1 Dialga PL (Reverse Time)
1 Azelf LA
3 Uxie
-17 Pokemon-

4 Snow Point Temple
4 Palmer's Contribution
4 Pokemon Collector
2 bebe's search
3 PONT
4 Pokemon communication
1 Luxury ball
4 Junk arm
4 Pokemon rescue
-30 Supporters, Trainers and Stadiums-

3 Call Energy's
10 {P} Energy's
-13 Energy's

...
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

Taking out 4 Psychic Energy and a Palmer's would make room for 2 Fire Energy, a 1-1 Blaziken line, and an SP Radar (as if a player is running Dialga, they will likely play Cyrus). You could also make some Psychic Energy Rainbow instead to make it more likely you'll be able to get a Fire Energy (but again, Cyrus).
I don't play Sableye, since I'd rather go for the T1 See Off (I go for 3 Smeargle instead). I haven't had a problem with not having Rhyperior in my deck yet, but I'll keep testing.
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

wy do you want to putt a blaziken FB line in the deck?
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

deepcrow: Dude, I know how to play Mewperior. I believe I was the first to post a list on Pokebeach. A deck that relies on discarding the top 5 cards from the deck NEEDS 4 Palmer's. I don't care if you run Delcatty/Dialga/Bells/Whistles or whatever, I ALWAYS Discard at least 1 Palmer. Sometimes I go through the game without a single Palmer's. Now you're telling me to run 2 Palmer's. And relying on Delcatty is a big no-no. Some people like it, I can understand it. But my area is high in SP. Relying on Delcatty engine won't work in an SP format. My Mewperior usually gets 150+ already. 100 is very rare and 50 is almost impossible. There's a lot of other things I don't understand as well, such as no Call, 3 Collector, 3 Seeker/3 SSU, BTS, 24 nrg, etc. but I won't go into detail. But please, tell me if your opinions come from testing.

Scizor: IMO SP radar isn't needed, I think what I could do is just exchange some Psychic for Fire, then find room for Blaziken. Thanks for the suggestion!

Totally: 13 energy in Mewperior? Sorry, but that's not what I'm after. Mew NEEDS T1 or T2 See Off. That list will also deck itself easy. And Blaziken is for Mew's problems: Dialga, Umbreon, Mewtwo, etc.

Again, people, PLEASE test before suggesting. You can't insist something if you haven't tested it yourself. If you have tested, then reply and insist.
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

First deck on Poke beach? Good job. High five. Drinks on me.
You're posting your list on a forum for anybody to look at the list, and give their opinions.
Mewperior is a terrible deck anyways. Might be decent after the format change (Which will be the death of the SP Engine)
Easy to counter with A LOT of decks. Makes it easy for Donk Decks, any decks that feature Sableye as their lead. So Chenlock, Sablelock, etc.
Your deck is literally a glass cannon.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't care if people haven't played WITH the deck before, they've definitely played against it. And for most good experienced players, that's all you need. If you get good advice, it's good advice. If you're demanding advice, and you get, but don't want it, that's just lame and immature.
When I get good advice, I try it out. If I thought it worked better before, I'll go with what I had, but if it didn't, I'll keep going with it.

And if you're going to use Mewperior, try and bring something new to the table. Neat idea and all, but as I said: Just a glass canon. It's like a weird donk deck. Win T2-3 or bust.

Hell, add Machamp and Umbreon to it, and give Mew a Rainbow energy.
Perfect against SP.
Zing.
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

deepcr0w said:
It's like a weird donk deck. Win T2-3 or bust.
Click to expand...
lolwhat? How do you win T3 with MewPerior? And don't say "you know whether you'll win or lose by T3." Because you really don't. There are so many interesting matchups that go down to the last prize, especially with DGX and Umbreon techs, and Machamp decks as well (after all, YOU OHKO them also).
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

3-3 Delcatty will guarantee 250 damage each turn, almost.
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

^Dear God. He DOES NOT WANT Delcatty. MewPerior WITH Delcatty and WITHOUT Delcatty are two separate decks, in my eyes. All they share is a main attacker and a strategy, but have completely different ways of getting to that goal. Delcatty is slower and while more reliable, not as good against SP and some other random matchups.
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

The only thing I can see that you could take out is

-3 Psychic Energy

+1 Fire Energy
+1-1 Blaziken FB X

It does hurt the consistency of getting the energy, but I do not see anything else that could be taken out

@deepcr0w: Mewperior is NOT a donk deck it is a deck that should win by T6 if you get Mew T1. If you choose to run Delcatty speed will be hindered greatly, making it about a T10 deck. It is like shoving 4 Spiritombs in Shuppet. Sure it will help you slow down Sps, but if you start w/ it, your screwed.

@Scizorliscious: Well said :)
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

deepcr0w said:
First deck on Poke beach? Good job. High five. Drinks on me.
You're posting your list on a forum for anybody to look at the list, and give their opinions.
Mewperior is a terrible deck anyways. Might be decent after the format change (Which will be the death of the SP Engine)
Click to expand...

The deck will not survive after rotation (unless the Gods are among us).

Bye-Bye Ryperior Lv.X! XD

dmaster out.
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

Deepcrow: I usually do try out new ideas, if I think they are reasonable. Sorry, but your suggestions aren't reasonable. I'm not trying to be offensive, I'm trying to get my point straight. OK, let's get my points down:

#1: Last time I checked, a rule in the deck garage was that don't insist on an idea if the person with the deck doesn't want it. IT'S THEIR DECK. At the end of the story, I rule this list. Not you, not Scizorlicious, not even Dmaster, and heck, he's a super mod, and he doesn't own a deck.

#2: Again, sorry, but suggesting 2 Palmer's in Mewperior isn't reasonable at all. Mewperior discards the top 5 cards from deck every turn. I don't care if you run Delcatty.

#3: Same as 2 but with 3 Collector.

#4: Same as 2 but with no Rescue or Call suggestion.

#5: Same as 2 but suggesting a list with Blaziken without Fire nrg.

#6: Mewperior is not terrible. It has favorable/easy matchups against Vilegar, Lostgar, SP without Dialga, or anything without Umbreon, Mewtwo, Shedinja, etc. Mewperior is tier 2-1.

#7: It scares me even more for you to think Mewperior is a donk deck. You can't call your advice good advice if your goal is to make a good T2/T3 donk deck list.

#8: Everything else is fine. Please note that I liked the Sableye-only/Smeargle only suggestion.

Again, don't take it personally.

Thanks everyone else, but please don't suggest Delcatty anymore. I've decided not to run it.
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

You need Delcatty. What do you do when you start with a random basic and 6 Psychic energy?




-sillykyle!
 
RE: Mewperior again NEEDS BLAZIKEN (Mew Prime/Rhyperior X)

Call/See Off/Impersonate/Portrait. If you get donked, thats Mewperior for ya.
 
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