XY Moves You Dislike?

Blob55

Blob55

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I hate that XY added like 5 completely pointless moves! I'm looking at you Happy Hour (Amulet Coin does the same thing), Celebrate, Hold Hands, Powder (way too specific to be useful) and Mat Block (Weren't Detect and Protect enough?!). These moves sound like TCG rejects!
What happened to the good days when Gen 4 and 5 added all those amazing moves? Gen 6 just added way too many Status Moves, many of which are completely useless and make moves like Growl and Howl look amazing by comparison.




When discussing moves, please make sure to give reasons as to why you don't like a particular move. Any posts that are just simply listing moves will be deleted as spam. Thanks! ~Athena
 
RE: Moves you Hate

Stealth Rock. Stealth. Freakin'. Rock. Capable of causing way too much damage when it comes in ... though, I admit, my personal bias towards Fire types probably influences my position.

'Hate' may be a strong word, but I do my best to avoid any moves with less than 90% accuracy. They invariably fail me when I need them the most ... though I did have one very amusing Showdown match where my opponent's Mega Blaziken missed me twice in a row with Hi Jump Kick, thus KOing himself.
 
RE: Moves you Hate

Teleport is literally more pointless then splash. Why not just, you know, hit the run button? Kineses is lame too, just a worse version of sand attack. Synchronoise seems pointless too, even with its buff in gen 6, why bother using a move that only works against pokemon that are the same type and therefore not very effective?

Alakazam is supposed to be a smart pokemon, but why can it learn all those junk moves?
 
RE: Moves you Hate

Reggie McGigas said:
Teleport is literally more pointless then splash. Why not just, you know, hit the run button? Kineses is lame too, just a worse version of sand attack. Synchronize seems pointless too, even with its buff in gen 6, why bother using a move that only works against pokemon that are the same type and therefore not very effective?

Alakazam is supposed to be a smart pokemon, but why can it learn all those junk moves?
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Syncronoise only works against Pokémon that are the same type as the user, so it can potentially be super effective. Though... only Flying, Psychic and Normal types learn it through level up and by breeding a Water and Fairy type can learn it. Plus Kecleon can learn it anway.

Run doesn't always work, as Pokémon of a higher level can be hard to run from. Plus you can Teleport to the closest Pokémon Center
 
RE: Moves you Hate

Happy Hour stacks not only with Amulet Coin, but the Prize Money O-Power, allowing for absurd amounts of cash gain on a win.

Hold Hands increases its ally's happiness, making friendship-based evolution easier.

They are niche moves that do have their uses.
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

Like other threads of this type, please make sure that you give a reason for any moves you mention, please don't just list moves. Thanks! I added a notice to the OP, too.
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

Focus blast aka focus miss
Too many Pokemon needs this move like Gengar Alakazam and Goodra
Why can't they just make Aura sphare a TM
We got TM Thunder-Thunderbolt Fire blast-Flamethrower Blizzard-Ice beam
So why not TM Focus blast-Aura sphere ??
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

scattered mind said:
Focus blast aka focus miss
Too many Pokemon needs this move like Gengar Alakazam and Goodra
Why can't they just make Aura sphare a TM
We got TM Thunder-Thunderbolt Fire blast-Flamethrower Blizzard-Ice beam
So why not TM Focus blast-Aura sphere ??
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Gengar, Alakazam and Goodra CAN learn Focus Blast, FYI.

A move with 120 Base Power can't always be 100% accurate, because otherwise, it would be way too OP for a Pokémon game.
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

CF1994 said:
scattered mind said:
Focus blast aka focus miss
Too many Pokemon needs this move like Gengar Alakazam and Goodra
Why can't they just make Aura sphare a TM
We got TM Thunder-Thunderbolt Fire blast-Flamethrower Blizzard-Ice beam
So why not TM Focus blast-Aura sphere ??
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Gengar, Alakazam and Goodra CAN learn Focus Blast, FYI.

A move with 120 Base Power can't always be 100% accurate, because otherwise, it would be way too OP for a Pokémon game.
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Sorry I meant that they need this move despite its poor accuercy and could do better with Aura sphere
Not that they cannot learn Focus blast
And by the way Fire blast has at least 85 accuracy and there is CC so there are ways to make a 120 base power move better and not op
 
RE: Moves you Hate

PMJ said:
Happy Hour stacks not only with Amulet Coin, but the Prize Money O-Power, allowing for absurd amounts of cash gain on a win.

Hold Hands increases its ally's happiness, making friendship-based evolution easier.

They are niche moves that do have their uses.
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I know what Happy Hour does, but it's only a move for one Japanese Pokémon.

As for Hold Hands, I didn't know about that. However, only one fully-evolved Pokémon can learn it. Unless it also increases the friendship with every Pokémon in your team, then it's kind of useless.
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

I don't like status moves.
I like battles to end quickly and I get really bored/inpatient when I see those moves that do not do any direct damage.
I think this explains all of the moves without explaining why on each one since there's more than 40.
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

Victorsaurus said:
I don't like status moves.
I like battles to end quickly and I get really bored/inpatient when I see those moves that do not do any direct damage.
I think this explains all of the moves without explaining why on each one since there's more than 40.
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But what do you think about weak damage-dealing moves? What about Status moves which do damage?
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

Status moves that do damage like Toxic, Leech seed, Stealth Rock are a little better, but still not a fan.

Weak damage-dealing offensive moves, hmmm, I guess there are okay especially since the ones I sometimes see competitive (I don't play a lot, maybe 5 battles a week) are fake out, aqua jet and a few others. I just like direct damages. :p

Blob55 said:
But what do you think about weak damage-dealing moves? What about Status moves which do damage?
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RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

There are status moves that end battles more quickly, like Swords Dance, Nasty Plot, and Dragon Dance.

Now, for another entry I had forgotten until i did some Battle Maisson earlier today.
Sucker Punch. Sucker. Freakin'. Punch. I don't care if it is situational, that situation (an opponent attacking) is far too common for that move to be that powerful.
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

Happy Hour is one of the best in-game moves. >_>

I hate Focus Blast, Hydro Pump and Fire Blast. Especially on Pokémon that don't have an alternative (most Focust Blasters, Rotom-Wash). Because missing on them often costs the whole match but you can't do without them.
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

Metronome, because it's a lottery for both sides! Also, it has the possibility of making the user almost like a destruction god or a useless one! U_U
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

FoxFire said:
There are status moves that end battles more quickly, like Swords Dance, Nasty Plot, and Dragon Dance.

Now, for another entry I had forgotten until i did some Battle Maisson earlier today.
Sucker Punch. Sucker. Freakin'. Punch. I don't care if it is situational, that situation (an opponent attacking) is far too common for that move to be that powerful.
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Sucker Punch to me was really what made me want to punch Gen 4 in the face. They bring this strong priority move that the opponent can just smack the 'A' button for until you use an attack, and hits awfully hard. Combined with Bisharp and the Defiant Ability, the move in that scenario essentially punishes hazard removal via Defog. That and Mega Mawile can simply set up in your face with Swords Dance and then OHKO quite a few Pokes with Sucker Punch.

Soooo..... Sucker Punch punishes intelligent play.
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

It doesn't punish intelligent play; it encourages it. Just spamming attacks even though your opponent can Sucker Punch isn't intelligent play. You should learn to adapt and either run something that can take a hit and hit back or just use a status move like Will-o-Wisp, Substitute, or T-Wave.
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

Cinesra said:
It doesn't punish intelligent play; it encourages it. Just spamming attacks even though your opponent can Sucker Punch isn't intelligent play. You should learn to adapt and either run something that can take a hit and hit back or just use a status move like Will-o-Wisp, Substitute, or T-Wave.
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I agree.
Sucker Punch gives slow Pokemon a good priority attack, I can't see how that hurts competitive play. It alone makes some Pokemon viable in higher tiers (as mentioned, Mawile and Bisharp would see a sharp drop in usage without the move).
If anything, Sucker Punch encourages intelligent play because you can't just sit there and spam attacks.
 
RE: Moves You Dislike, and Why?

Besides, there is no way that someone can spam Sucker Punch until you make a move. Sucker Punch belongs to the 5 PP category (8 PP is the maximum it gets), so you really need to be careful. If Sucker Punch sucks, by the way, then what about Extreme Speed? I can understand that you might not like Sucker Punch, but saying it's bad for competitive play isn't a viable reason.

As for me, the move I despise is Defog. Spinning away hazards was something tough, given the low amount of spinners, and as such not every team carried one. Defog, however, is more common and has users way bettter than Donphan (see Scizor, Lati@s, Zapdos). As such, now I can't help but include a Defogger in teams I make. And that annoys me. As a player who wants to win, having a way to remove hazards is essential, but using a moveslot for Defog always makes me feel as if the Pokemon is missing something vital. Kinda makes me feel bad for using it.
 
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