Movie Box Office
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The box office always lies. BO=Hype, not quality. Just look at Twilight for exapmle.
Elite Stride said:The Box Office does not lie folks, it's highly recommended! Next up, I think I'll go see Les Misérables with some friends this weekend.
The box office always lies. BO=Hype, not quality. Just look at Twilight for exapmle.
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
Welp.
IMO, it's pitifully low. Finding Nemo 3D, while an overall better movie, premiered at #2 when it was released.
I think it's just a combination of an ok Pixar re-release (IMO) with bad timing for a movie to release with all the Oscar hopeful films rushing in. Oh well. That's not to say it's a bad movie at all, it just didn't make a lot of money.
dmaster out.
ForeignDude said:
Welp.
IMO, it's pitifully low. Finding Nemo 3D, while an overall better movie, premiered at #2 when it was released.
I think it's just a combination of an ok Pixar re-release (IMO) with bad timing for a movie to release with all the Oscar hopeful films rushing in. Oh well. That's not to say it's a bad movie at all, it just didn't make a lot of money.
dmaster out.
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
Weekend Box Office (December 28 - 30, 2012)
Weekend Box Office (December 28 - 30, 2012)
| 1 | The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey | $32,920,000.00 |
| 2 | Django Unchained | $30,688,000.00 |
| 3 | Les Miserables | $28,028,000.00 |
| 4 | Parental Guidance | $14,800,000.00 |
| 5 | Jack Reacher | $14,010,000.00 |
| 6 | This is 40 | $13,186,000.00 |
| 7 | Lincoln | $7,509,000.00 |
| 8 | The Guilt Trip | $6,700,000.00 |
| 9 | Monsters, Inc. 3D | $6,363,000.00 |
| 10 | Rise of the Guardians | $4,900,000.00 |
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
I saw the midnight premiere of the Hobbit and then I also saw it again a few days later in IMAX/3D. Both were amazing but I recommend non-3D. I haven't seen it in HDR yet, but I plan too. It's not going to look as good though since we are so used to 24fps. 48 is going to be crazy.
I saw the midnight premiere of the Hobbit and then I also saw it again a few days later in IMAX/3D. Both were amazing but I recommend non-3D. I haven't seen it in HDR yet, but I plan too. It's not going to look as good though since we are so used to 24fps. 48 is going to be crazy.
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
Well, the Hobbit was pretty nice. It had its Lord of the Rings touch, but it also has its own personal taste. I saw it in non-3D, and I think it's better that way. 3D wouldn't add much to it.
Well, the Hobbit was pretty nice. It had its Lord of the Rings touch, but it also has its own personal taste. I saw it in non-3D, and I think it's better that way. 3D wouldn't add much to it.
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
I was specifically talking about The Hobbit being accurately portrayed in the BO results. I did not say that it never lies. Similarly, for you to say that the BO "always" lies is a negative statement. Your claim fully implies that any movie(s) that made it to #1 in the BO is just "hype, not quality" and that couldn't be further from the truth.
Although that is a common fact that doesn't need to be proven further, let me give you an example. Take a look at the Harry Potter films for a minute. Most of them (if not all) made it to the top of the BO when each of them were released. Considering that there are 8 installments, how would the 8th film, or even the 2nd or 3rd films for that matter, have made it to the top of the BO if they were just "hype, not quality"? We know they are quality, not just hype, because tons of people paid to go see each film. Why would a person go see the next 7 movies if they hated the first one? The same goes for other extremely popular titles such as The Lord of the Rings trilogy. I'm not saying that hype has nothing to do with it because it most certainly does- it is what gets people who have never seen a film before to go see it. The success of the movie “Avatar” was mostly due to the fact that EVERYBODY and their second cousin was talking about it. It was #1 in the BO for a long time, thus your logic would essentially say that Avatar was all hype and no quality. Nobody can deny that that was a quality movie, even if you didn’t like it. Massive and ridiculous amounts of money went in to producing that film.
A clear majority of the movies that make it to the top of the BO only get there because a significant number of people like them, and/or they have reputable directors and cast- maybe even a popular book. That being said, however, there are exceptions. I agree, I don't personally like Twilight either. But at the end of the day, those are just our opinions and you have to view the bigger picture. If Twilight was at the top of the BO, it's because a larger portion of the populace really enjoyed it, and felt that it had enough quality to consequently maintain a fanbase (that rivaled even HP) and support the final 2 movies.
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On a different note, I went to see Les Miserables today with some friends. I thought it was so-so. I came out of the theatre having liked it and hated it at the same time (lol). I’m all for a good musical, but it seems they took a different spin on the film as a musical. Instead of having separated musical sections within the acts, the entire script was sung, except for only a few lines that were still musical in nature. This got slightly annoying after a while, especially when some of the actors were not very gifted vocally. The part about me that liked it though, appreciated the quality of the acting and the story in general (it’s an oldie but goodie). I especially loved Anne Hathaway and Helena Bonham who plays Bellatrix Lestrange (for all you Harry Potter fans).
I studied the drama in High School years ago and we watched an adaptation of the hit by Victor Hugo which really clears up a lot of the story in detail. I would recommend that if you are planning on seeing Les Mis, you brush up on at least the beginning of the story, otherwise you might get lost. Again, because everyday dialogue in the film is sung, not spoken. Also, I would not recommend seeing this if you are not too keen on musicals, because the whole thing is basically a musical on steroids.
HypnoticLuxray said:Elite Stride said:The Box Office does not lie folks, it's highly recommended! Next up, I think I'll go see Les Misérables with some friends this weekend.
The box office always lies. BO=Hype, not quality. Just look at Twilight for exapmle.
I was specifically talking about The Hobbit being accurately portrayed in the BO results. I did not say that it never lies. Similarly, for you to say that the BO "always" lies is a negative statement. Your claim fully implies that any movie(s) that made it to #1 in the BO is just "hype, not quality" and that couldn't be further from the truth.
Although that is a common fact that doesn't need to be proven further, let me give you an example. Take a look at the Harry Potter films for a minute. Most of them (if not all) made it to the top of the BO when each of them were released. Considering that there are 8 installments, how would the 8th film, or even the 2nd or 3rd films for that matter, have made it to the top of the BO if they were just "hype, not quality"? We know they are quality, not just hype, because tons of people paid to go see each film. Why would a person go see the next 7 movies if they hated the first one? The same goes for other extremely popular titles such as The Lord of the Rings trilogy. I'm not saying that hype has nothing to do with it because it most certainly does- it is what gets people who have never seen a film before to go see it. The success of the movie “Avatar” was mostly due to the fact that EVERYBODY and their second cousin was talking about it. It was #1 in the BO for a long time, thus your logic would essentially say that Avatar was all hype and no quality. Nobody can deny that that was a quality movie, even if you didn’t like it. Massive and ridiculous amounts of money went in to producing that film.
A clear majority of the movies that make it to the top of the BO only get there because a significant number of people like them, and/or they have reputable directors and cast- maybe even a popular book. That being said, however, there are exceptions. I agree, I don't personally like Twilight either. But at the end of the day, those are just our opinions and you have to view the bigger picture. If Twilight was at the top of the BO, it's because a larger portion of the populace really enjoyed it, and felt that it had enough quality to consequently maintain a fanbase (that rivaled even HP) and support the final 2 movies.
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On a different note, I went to see Les Miserables today with some friends. I thought it was so-so. I came out of the theatre having liked it and hated it at the same time (lol). I’m all for a good musical, but it seems they took a different spin on the film as a musical. Instead of having separated musical sections within the acts, the entire script was sung, except for only a few lines that were still musical in nature. This got slightly annoying after a while, especially when some of the actors were not very gifted vocally. The part about me that liked it though, appreciated the quality of the acting and the story in general (it’s an oldie but goodie). I especially loved Anne Hathaway and Helena Bonham who plays Bellatrix Lestrange (for all you Harry Potter fans).
I studied the drama in High School years ago and we watched an adaptation of the hit by Victor Hugo which really clears up a lot of the story in detail. I would recommend that if you are planning on seeing Les Mis, you brush up on at least the beginning of the story, otherwise you might get lost. Again, because everyday dialogue in the film is sung, not spoken. Also, I would not recommend seeing this if you are not too keen on musicals, because the whole thing is basically a musical on steroids.
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
Hype and quality are two very different things, but they are also very hard to distinguish.
To use Elite Stride's examples, the fact that all 8 Harry Potter movies were top in BO doesn't mean they were quality. Sure, many people see them, but then again many people listen to Justin Bieber's music (I know it's irrelevant, but couldn't think of a better example). Personally, I've watched all Harry Potter movies. Some were good, but some others were just... unoriginal. Sure, it was good acting and all, but the movie itself wasn't so great. About Avatar now... I personally liked it more than Harry Potter, and I know of others who think the same. And that's not only because of the 3D.
Generally speaking, you can't use BO to decide quality. But it's not like you can decide it in any other way. In the end, it's just a matter of taste.
Hype and quality are two very different things, but they are also very hard to distinguish.
To use Elite Stride's examples, the fact that all 8 Harry Potter movies were top in BO doesn't mean they were quality. Sure, many people see them, but then again many people listen to Justin Bieber's music (I know it's irrelevant, but couldn't think of a better example). Personally, I've watched all Harry Potter movies. Some were good, but some others were just... unoriginal. Sure, it was good acting and all, but the movie itself wasn't so great. About Avatar now... I personally liked it more than Harry Potter, and I know of others who think the same. And that's not only because of the 3D.
Generally speaking, you can't use BO to decide quality. But it's not like you can decide it in any other way. In the end, it's just a matter of taste.
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
I feel like quality is taking your bias' aside and seeing the piece for what it really is, and often that's really hard to do. Using your example, I don't care for Justin's music either, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have talent.. He was on a talk show now that I think of it, and he sung a few bars unaccompanied, and it would be pretty hard to say that he doesn't have a voice . Now, what he chooses to sing about is a different story. That's where people start to confuse quality with taste/personal preference, and the same generally applies to films.
Like I alluded to in my last post, it doesn't really matter what we as individuals prefer. We can acknowledge that some people don't like the HP movies, but the majority of theatre-goers did support all 8 movies. When it comes to entertainment it only matters that say, 1 billion people went to see the movie on opening weekend, not that Bobby doesn't like Voldemort's acting, or that Susie thought there wasn't enough smut to render it a good movie in her eyes. That number isn't an actual statistic, but Harry Potter 8 did break an all time record in the BO, but more importantly, its opening gross. If that doesn't mirror an element of quality in the films, then I don't know what does.
I feel like quality is taking your bias' aside and seeing the piece for what it really is, and often that's really hard to do. Using your example, I don't care for Justin's music either, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have talent.. He was on a talk show now that I think of it, and he sung a few bars unaccompanied, and it would be pretty hard to say that he doesn't have a voice . Now, what he chooses to sing about is a different story. That's where people start to confuse quality with taste/personal preference, and the same generally applies to films.
Like I alluded to in my last post, it doesn't really matter what we as individuals prefer. We can acknowledge that some people don't like the HP movies, but the majority of theatre-goers did support all 8 movies. When it comes to entertainment it only matters that say, 1 billion people went to see the movie on opening weekend, not that Bobby doesn't like Voldemort's acting, or that Susie thought there wasn't enough smut to render it a good movie in her eyes. That number isn't an actual statistic, but Harry Potter 8 did break an all time record in the BO, but more importantly, its opening gross. If that doesn't mirror an element of quality in the films, then I don't know what does.
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
I guess you're right... Confusing quality with personal taste sure is common. But, on the other hand, it can't be helped. Oh well, maybe we'll have to go on with it. Like we always do.
I guess you're right... Confusing quality with personal taste sure is common. But, on the other hand, it can't be helped. Oh well, maybe we'll have to go on with it. Like we always do
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I got ranted at for dissing Twilight....
Wow.
I'm just going to ignore that, because you were counter-arguing something I didn't even say. Not once did I say anything about quality not being a factor. You just spiraled off a hyperbole.
On a different note, your knowledge of Les Mis is terrible. Yes, the entire thing is sung. Did you expect different? That's how it's supposed to be. They didn't change anything and 'do a different take.' I personally didn't see it yet, but I heard it was good. Except for Crowe's singing.
I got ranted at for dissing Twilight....
Wow.
I'm just going to ignore that, because you were counter-arguing something I didn't even say. Not once did I say anything about quality not being a factor. You just spiraled off a hyperbole.
On a different note, your knowledge of Les Mis is terrible. Yes, the entire thing is sung. Did you expect different? That's how it's supposed to be. They didn't change anything and 'do a different take.' I personally didn't see it yet, but I heard it was good. Except for Crowe's singing.
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
Your reading comprehension is lacking here. My post was in absolutely no way a "rant" towards you or anyone else. If you had actually read what I said, you would have understood that I personally supported your point about Twilight. This is a discussion thread for movies and that's exactly what I was doing. Call it whatever you want, but the proper way to foster serious discussion is by using detailed and thoughtful messages with examples to support your opinions. When you quote, and challenge an idea, you should expect a detailed counter-argument, that's how these threads work. If you feel a person is "spiraling on a hyperbole" every time they do that, then maybe discussion threads aren't for you.
This is a self explanatory contradiction. Not to mention my whole response to you centered around why I thought the BO does reflect quality in a movie. So I was countering something you said.
If you want to discuss this with me more- shoot me a pm so that we don't further disrupt the original topic of this thread.
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Back on topic....
How are you to judge someone else's opinion of the film if you haven't even seen it yourself? And how can you know that they didn't change anything if you haven't seen it? Again, if you read the response, you would know that I was fully aware that it's sung entirely. When I said that they took a "different take, I was in the middle of comparing it to other musicals. Even if I did say what you thought I said, there are other adaptations of the drama that are not musically emphasized.
(and in case somebody brings it up...)
Whether or not the original written work was meant to be fully sung seems slightly irrelevant, since every different movie made after it can technically be called "a different take". This is evident by the Les Mis film that isn't vocally emphasized, which I will find a reference to and link it here another time so that you can see for yourself. [If you don't understand what I'm trying to say in the last 2 sentences, just ignore it. lol]
Your reading comprehension is lacking here. My post was in absolutely no way a "rant" towards you or anyone else. If you had actually read what I said, you would have understood that I personally supported your point about Twilight. This is a discussion thread for movies and that's exactly what I was doing. Call it whatever you want, but the proper way to foster serious discussion is by using detailed and thoughtful messages with examples to support your opinions. When you quote, and challenge an idea, you should expect a detailed counter-argument, that's how these threads work. If you feel a person is "spiraling on a hyperbole" every time they do that, then maybe discussion threads aren't for you.
HypnoticLuxray said:
HypnoticLuxray said:
This is a self explanatory contradiction. Not to mention my whole response to you centered around why I thought the BO does reflect quality in a movie. So I was countering something you said.
If you want to discuss this with me more- shoot me a pm so that we don't further disrupt the original topic of this thread.
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Back on topic....
HypnoticLuxray said:
How are you to judge someone else's opinion of the film if you haven't even seen it yourself? And how can you know that they didn't change anything if you haven't seen it? Again, if you read the response, you would know that I was fully aware that it's sung entirely. When I said that they took a "different take, I was in the middle of comparing it to other musicals. Even if I did say what you thought I said, there are other adaptations of the drama that are not musically emphasized.
(and in case somebody brings it up...)
Whether or not the original written work was meant to be fully sung seems slightly irrelevant, since every different movie made after it can technically be called "a different take". This is evident by the Les Mis film that isn't vocally emphasized, which I will find a reference to and link it here another time so that you can see for yourself. [If you don't understand what I'm trying to say in the last 2 sentences, just ignore it. lol]
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
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Plot: Two corporate salesmen, Steve Butler and Sue Thomason, representing a natural gas company, arrive in a rural town hit hard by the economic downturn. Thinking the people will be happy to embrace a potential money-making drilling venture, they encounter resistance in the form of a highly-regarded school teacher and a grassroots campaign to stop them.
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Plot: A young woman receives news on an inheritance in Texas. Yet this windfall comes with a price to pay in the form of cannibalistic family, including a certain chainsaw-wielding maniac.
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Plot: An agent in the newly-formed created intelligence agency investigates a link between a charismatic reverend and an alien species and discovers a plot to destroy mankind. Forced to drink a strange, blue liquid, he wakes 300 years in the future and finds out he is the last human to survive devastating nuclear warfare. Dubbed "The Prototype" he is the last hope for humanity.
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Plot: A one-time CIA operative now working as a political talk show host is contacted by a corporate whistle-blower looking to expose atrocities by her company operating in South America.
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Plot: A recently-released prisoner and four men who all committed a robbery together sit down to a sushi dinner (served off the body of a beautiful woman) and the congratulations soon take a deadly turn as the men squabble over the missing loot - all the while, the sushi girl remains motionless.
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RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
i don't know about the conversation we're having right now but i just wanted to pop in and say that easy a is actually just the best movie of all time and anybody who disagrees is literally wrong
(ps i reported a post a while ago and i don't see the user assigned a warning 4 it??)
yolo u mad bro
i don't know about the conversation we're having right now but i just wanted to pop in and say that easy a is actually just the best movie of all time and anybody who disagrees is literally wrong
(ps i reported a post a while ago and i don't see the user assigned a warning 4 it??)
yolo u mad bro
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
What I said was a joke. Seriously. If you couldn't tell, it's not my problem to argue with you about it. But I may have overreacted a bit as well, so sorry.
Anyway, I know they didn't change anything, because I'm doing a production of it right now. I would've been told by one of my castmates if anything dtastic was done to it. I know they added a new number, changed a couple words here and there, and had a lot of close-ups that allowed you to count pores.
By no means did you make it clear you were aware of it being sung, or that you were comparing it to other musicals. I did read your posts, and no, it's not my comprehension that's lacking. But still, you have fair points so I'm good.
What I said was a joke. Seriously. If you couldn't tell, it's not my problem to argue with you about it. But I may have overreacted a bit as well, so sorry.
Anyway, I know they didn't change anything, because I'm doing a production of it right now. I would've been told by one of my castmates if anything dtastic was done to it. I know they added a new number, changed a couple words here and there, and had a lot of close-ups that allowed you to count pores.
By no means did you make it clear you were aware of it being sung, or that you were comparing it to other musicals. I did read your posts, and no, it's not my comprehension that's lacking. But still, you have fair points so I'm good.
RE: Movie Discussion Thread II
This is where is was making the comparison to Les Mis. What I'm essentially saying here is that the film wasn't following the traditional pattern of song/dialogue/song/dialogue (which, of course, is perfectly fine). "Different spin" is also subliminally referring to the difference between this movie and another one that I saw based on the same story.
Elite Stride said:
This is where is was making the comparison to Les Mis. What I'm essentially saying here is that the film wasn't following the traditional pattern of song/dialogue/song/dialogue (which, of course, is perfectly fine). "Different spin" is also subliminally referring to the difference between this movie and another one that I saw based on the same story.
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| 1 | The Wolverine | $55,000,000.00 |
| 2 | The Conjuring | $22,130,000.00 |
| 3 | Despicable Me 2 | $16,000,000.00 |
| 4 | Turbo | $13,325,000.00 |
| 5 | Grown Ups 2 | $11,500,000.00 |
| 6 | Red 2 | $9,400,000.00 |
| 7 | Pacific Rim | $7,540,000.00 |
| 8 | The Heat | $6,850,000.00 |
| 9 | R.I.P.D. | $5,900,000.00 |
| 10 | Fruitvale Station | $4,657,000.00 |
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| 3 | The Smurfs 2 | 18,200,000.00 |
| 4 | The Conjuring | 13,660,000.00 |
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| 6 | Grown Ups 2 | 8,100,000.00 |
| 7 | Turbo | 6,400,000.00 |
| 8 | Red 2 | 5,650,000.00 |
| 9 | The Heat | 4,725,000.00 |
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