RE: Movies that make you very angry
I usually don't see Disney's movies (and the ones I've seen I can only remember few things) so I didn't know that falling to their death was so recurring!
I ended up being more inclined to believe that Gothel aged while falling and turning into dust but then reality came knocking and I was left thinking: bones don't turn into dust, at least not after 18 years, which was the time that Gothel stayed alive and young. Also, not seeing the villain's death is usually an excuse for making a sequel so one more reason to be left wondering. Even in "Princess Mononoke", the wolf mother is clearly decapitated and still manages to "surf" through the goey and rip off a woman's arm so Gothel may still be somewhat alive.
First of all, sorry for devianting a little from the thread's intended theme.
It's true what you've said about the approach but seeing that the saga had so much success among girls, then it must mean something. Sure, the Twilight books and movies are to blame for giving that idea but to a certain extent it's only giving some people what they want, even if it doesn't apply to other people and even if ruining vampire lore (it's like "300": a movie that grabbed a piece of history and turned it into a movie for girls, women and male gays by showing muscled guys almost naked, despite not matching the reality. Oh yeah, and today I learned that there will be a "300- part 2" (not the actual name). As always, there are no polls and even then they would be only polls, not a census to each and every woman and girl on Earth so what might have given the idea of a great number of girls being in love with Twilight's themes and messages might have been something bloated by the press.
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On the other hand, it seems to suggest that even men can be better (or somewhat tamed) with a woman by their side, at least that's the "message" I got when seeing that quiet vampire from the "good guys" who's the boyfriend of Edward's sister (I might be wrong since I didn't watch all the movies and they aren't remarkable for good reasons).
Athena said:Leaf_Ranger said:
I don't know if you just haven't seen a lot of Disney movies, but ambiguous falling deaths happen so often that "Disney Villain Death" is the name of a TVTrope. It does apply to non-Disney works as well, but because it's so common in Disney, they get the title.
However, that very same page does also answer your question: "Tangled gently plays with this trope. While Mother Gothel did fall from the tower, she was already dead and turned to dust by the time she (or rather, her cloak) hit the ground. She suffered death by Rapid Aging rather than death by falling. Also, she didn't just cause her own fall, she was actually intentionally tripped by Pascal."
I usually don't see Disney's movies (and the ones I've seen I can only remember few things) so I didn't know that falling to their death was so recurring!
I ended up being more inclined to believe that Gothel aged while falling and turning into dust but then reality came knocking and I was left thinking: bones don't turn into dust, at least not after 18 years, which was the time that Gothel stayed alive and young. Also, not seeing the villain's death is usually an excuse for making a sequel so one more reason to be left wondering. Even in "Princess Mononoke", the wolf mother is clearly decapitated and still manages to "surf" through the goey and rip off a woman's arm so Gothel may still be somewhat alive.
His Goominess said:
First of all, sorry for devianting a little from the thread's intended theme.
It's true what you've said about the approach but seeing that the saga had so much success among girls, then it must mean something. Sure, the Twilight books and movies are to blame for giving that idea but to a certain extent it's only giving some people what they want, even if it doesn't apply to other people and even if ruining vampire lore (it's like "300": a movie that grabbed a piece of history and turned it into a movie for girls, women and male gays by showing muscled guys almost naked, despite not matching the reality. Oh yeah, and today I learned that there will be a "300- part 2" (not the actual name). As always, there are no polls and even then they would be only polls, not a census to each and every woman and girl on Earth so what might have given the idea of a great number of girls being in love with Twilight's themes and messages might have been something bloated by the press.
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On the other hand, it seems to suggest that even men can be better (or somewhat tamed) with a woman by their side, at least that's the "message" I got when seeing that quiet vampire from the "good guys" who's the boyfriend of Edward's sister (I might be wrong since I didn't watch all the movies and they aren't remarkable for good reasons).
