My own take on Genesect/Virizion

[TJed73]

Pokemon

• 3x Genesect EX
• 3x Virizion EX
• 2-2-2 Serperior (BW1, Royal Heal)
• 2x Shaymin (BC, Call for Family)

Trainers

• 3x Shadow Triad
• 2x Colress
• 2x Cilan
• 1x N
• 1x Skyla
• 3x Eviolite
• 3x Float Stone
• 3x Pokemon Catcher
• 3x Switch
• 2x Energy Retrieval
• 2x Superior Energy Retrieval
• 2x Plasma Ball
• 2x Hypnotoxic

Energy

• 13x Grass Energy
• 4x Plasma Energy

Strategy

Im pretty set on the pokemon I have in the deck...I may go to 3-2-3 Serperior, but in all the testing, two has been good enough. What Im really looking for here is help with Trainers and Supporters. Which ones should I run? I always seem to struggle a bit with picking out the right ones.
What does everyone think?

 

[Pokewiz1999]

I'm not sure about Serperior in this but if you're set on Pokemon alright then. Although I'd change the Shaymin to Emolga DRX. It's the same Call for Family but it has free retreat. Other suggestions as follows:

-2 Cilan (Virizion accelerates energy enough)
-2 Colress (There are better supporters)
-3 Eviolite (You can use the space better)
-2 Hypno-Toxic Laser (Not really much point save lucky flip)
-2 Float stone (With 3 Switch you don't need so many)
-5 Grass Energy (17 is far too much)
-2 Energy Retrieval (Out of format if you're planning tourney's and you don't need that much Retrieval)
-1 Pokemon Catcher (With Genesect's ability you don't need too many)
+4 Colress Machine (Very good for getting Genesect set up fast)
+3 Plasma Badge (Helps with getting energy on Virizion)
+3 N (Very good supporter and very good to max on)
+1 G-Booster (You need this for Genesect)
+3 Professor Juniper (Arguably best supporter in format)
+2 Skyla (3 or 4 of this is good)
+3 Ultra Ball (Very good search)

Might think of more but that's what I got right now. Hope I helped!

 

[TJed73]

I'm not sure about Serperior in this but if you're set on Pokemon alright then. Although I'd change the Shaymin to Emolga DRX. It's the same Call for Family but it has free retreat. Other suggestions as follows:

-2 Cilan (Virizion accelerates energy enough)
-2 Colress (There are better supporters)
-3 Eviolite (You can use the space better)
-2 Hypno-Toxic Laser (Not really much point save lucky flip)
-2 Float stone (With 3 Switch you don't need so many)
-5 Grass Energy (17 is far too much)
-2 Energy Retrieval (Out of format if you're planning tourney's and you don't need that much Retrieval)
-1 Pokemon Catcher (With Genesect's ability you don't need too many)
+4 Colress Machine (Very good for getting Genesect set up fast)
+3 Plasma Badge (Helps with getting energy on Virizion)
+3 N (Very good supporter and very good to max on)
+1 G-Booster (You need this for Genesect)
+3 Professor Juniper (Arguably best supporter in format)
+2 Skyla (3 or 4 of this is good)
+3 Ultra Ball (Very good search)

Might think of more but that's what I got right now. Hope I helped!

I like some of those suggestions.
Definitely down with the N boost, but I may only go to 2 or 3. IMO N is better early game and Colress is better late. I usually will run the same number of both whether its 2 or 3. Ive never really been a fan of Prof Juniper because I dont like discarding things, but Ill probly make a move to run 2.
The biggest thing I disagree with in your suggestion is adding Colress Machines and Plasma Badges. Attaching plasma to Genesect shouldnt be done with a Colress Machine because its ability only activates if attached from the hand. Ive always just used Virizion to charge 2 energy on and then attached a 3rd when i needed to.
I like the Skyla suggestion, and I feel the same way about Ultra Balls as I do Junipers.
I do like alot of what you brought to the table though and Ill try some of it out. Thanks

 

[Pokewiz1999]

I'm not sure about Serperior in this but if you're set on Pokemon alright then. Although I'd change the Shaymin to Emolga DRX. It's the same Call for Family but it has free retreat. Other suggestions as follows:

-2 Cilan (Virizion accelerates energy enough)
-2 Colress (There are better supporters)
-3 Eviolite (You can use the space better)
-2 Hypno-Toxic Laser (Not really much point save lucky flip)
-2 Float stone (With 3 Switch you don't need so many)
-5 Grass Energy (17 is far too much)
-2 Energy Retrieval (Out of format if you're planning tourney's and you don't need that much Retrieval)
-1 Pokemon Catcher (With Genesect's ability you don't need too many)
+4 Colress Machine (Very good for getting Genesect set up fast)
+3 Plasma Badge (Helps with getting energy on Virizion)
+3 N (Very good supporter and very good to max on)
+1 G-Booster (You need this for Genesect)
+3 Professor Juniper (Arguably best supporter in format)
+2 Skyla (3 or 4 of this is good)
+3 Ultra Ball (Very good search)

Might think of more but that's what I got right now. Hope I helped!

I like some of those suggestions.
Definitely down with the N boost, but I may only go to 2 or 3. IMO N is better early game and Colress is better late. I usually will run the same number of both whether its 2 or 3. Ive never really been a fan of Prof Juniper because I dont like discarding things, but Ill probly make a move to run 2.
The biggest thing I disagree with in your suggestion is adding Colress Machines and Plasma Badges. Attaching plasma to Genesect shouldnt be done with a Colress Machine because its ability only activates if attached from the hand. Ive always just used Virizion to charge 2 energy on and then attached a 3rd when i needed to.
I like the Skyla suggestion, and I feel the same way about Ultra Balls as I do Junipers.
I do like alot of what you brought to the table though and Ill try some of it out. Thanks

Despite the ability not activating speed is huge and Colress Machine can help get it up and running fast. You still have Catcher's to Skyla for if you need it. I've already proxyed Genesect and it's helped a lot for me. A tech I put in instead of Switch is Sky Bridge. I also have Keldeo/Float Stone. Keldeo's mostly for weakness support though. Just throwing out some ideas you might wanna try.

 

[TJed73]

I like some of those suggestions.
Definitely down with the N boost, but I may only go to 2 or 3. IMO N is better early game and Colress is better late. I usually will run the same number of both whether its 2 or 3. Ive never really been a fan of Prof Juniper because I dont like discarding things, but Ill probly make a move to run 2.
The biggest thing I disagree with in your suggestion is adding Colress Machines and Plasma Badges. Attaching plasma to Genesect shouldnt be done with a Colress Machine because its ability only activates if attached from the hand. Ive always just used Virizion to charge 2 energy on and then attached a 3rd when i needed to.
I like the Skyla suggestion, and I feel the same way about Ultra Balls as I do Junipers.
I do like alot of what you brought to the table though and Ill try some of it out. Thanks

Despite the ability not activating speed is huge and Colress Machine can help get it up and running fast. You still have Catcher's to Skyla for if you need it. I've already proxyed Genesect and it's helped a lot for me. A tech I put in instead of Switch is Sky Bridge. I also have Keldeo/Float Stone. Keldeo's mostly for weakness support though. Just throwing out some ideas you might wanna try.

Ill give em a try...Thanks

 

[Robot_Fishy]

I really think you NEED an ace spec for this deck. My deck i was planning out was with the ACE SPEC G-Booster, a new ace-spec in plasma blast. It basically gives genesect an extra attack, and it could pretty much destroy ANY ex. Here is the description:

2x grass energy, 1x colorless G-Booster 200
Discard 2 Energy attached to this pokemon.
This attacks damage isn't affected by any
effects on the Defending Pokemon.

Well, that means Resistance, Weakness, and any other effect. Also, this is good with Virizion's Ability Verdant Wind can guard you from lasers so Snorlax Decks will be a joke to Genesect/Virizion Decks. Also, still good choices on energy retrieval and superior energy retrievel for genesect's G-BOOSTER attack.

You should remove Eviolite, because i don't really see why eviolite is needed, and also Cilan, because Virizion's Attack emerald slash gives you enough energy.

What you do have to watch for is Haxorus's attack:

1x Fighting 1x Metal Strike of the Champion
If the Defending Pokémon is a Team Plasma Pokémon, it is Knocked Out. (If the Defending Pokémon is not a Team Plasma Pokémon, this attack does nothing.)

So, you did some good choices on the Float Stone to maybe bring up Virizion or Serperior

You'll Also need some Tool Scrappers, Because the main reason is because of a new trainer coming out called Silver Mirror:

As long as the Pokémon this card is attached to is not a Pokémon-EX, prevent all effects of attacks, including damage, done to this Pokémon by your opponent's Team Plasma Pokémon.

And also Garbodors ability garbotoxin That disables every ability so you cant use your abilities. You can only activate Garbotoxin if you have a tool attached to it, so tool scrappers are a good choice to have.

Well, I hope this helps! Thanks!

 

[Serperior]

I agree. G-Booster is so important to this deck that you have to run it. 200 damage with no restrictions? Are you kidding me? Yeah. Too good. You're gonna have to drop that Serperior line for consistency purposes. You know I love Serperior, but you can't be drawing into Servine when you really need Supporters. Take those out for a few Tool Scrapper and two more Skyla for Trainer search.

 

[TJed73]

I agree. G-Booster is so important to this deck that you have to run it. 200 damage with no restrictions? Are you kidding me? Yeah. Too good. You're gonna have to drop that Serperior line for consistency purposes. You know I love Serperior, but you can't be drawing into Servine when you really need Supporters. Take those out for a few Tool Scrapper and two more Skyla for Trainer search.

I know your reasoning for dropping the Serperior line and the Eviolites, but I really want to test it against some powerful decks first.
Having 2 Serperiors on the bench plus the Eviolite takes 60 damage off the opponents attack (if it doesnt knock me out) by the time they can attack again. This allows the deck to not only hit hard, but also to stall out the opponent.
That was just my thought process with the whole thing.

 

[Pokewiz1999]

I agree. G-Booster is so important to this deck that you have to run it. 200 damage with no restrictions? Are you kidding me? Yeah. Too good. You're gonna have to drop that Serperior line for consistency purposes. You know I love Serperior, but you can't be drawing into Servine when you really need Supporters. Take those out for a few Tool Scrapper and two more Skyla for Trainer search.

I know your reasoning for dropping the Serperior line and the Eviolites, but I really want to test it against some powerful decks first.
Having 2 Serperiors on the bench plus the Eviolite takes 60 damage off the opponents attack (if it doesnt knock me out) by the time they can attack again. This allows the deck to not only hit hard, but also to stall out the opponent.
That was just my thought process with the whole thing.

He is right on the Serperior line. Taking 60 damage off is good but it's not worth destroying your consistency. If you took them out I'd do this:

-2 Snivy
-2 Servine
-2 Serperior
+1 Keldeo
+1 Float Stone (Since I took 2 out before)
+1 Plasma ball
+1 Mr. Mime (Kinda a tech in my deck but it helps against Darkrai and Genesect snipes)

That leaves 2 spaces but I can't think of anything else. Maybe another Virizion.

 

[TokyoToots]

He is right on the Serperior line. Taking 60 damage off is good but it's not worth destroying your consistency. If you took them out I'd do this:

-2 Snivy
-2 Servine
-2 Serperior
+1 Keldeo
+1 Float Stone (Since I took 2 out before)
+1 Plasma ball
+1 Mr. Mime (Kinda a tech in my deck but it helps against Darkrai and Genesect snipes)

That leaves 2 spaces but I can't think of anything else. Maybe another Virizion.

1-1 Abomasnow because: http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-genesect-ex-s-one-weakness-is-easily-beaten

 

[Elbow]

He is right on the Serperior line. Taking 60 damage off is good but it's not worth destroying your consistency. If you took them out I'd do this:

-2 Snivy
-2 Servine
-2 Serperior
+1 Keldeo
+1 Float Stone (Since I took 2 out before)
+1 Plasma ball
+1 Mr. Mime (Kinda a tech in my deck but it helps against Darkrai and Genesect snipes)

That leaves 2 spaces but I can't think of anything else. Maybe another Virizion.

1-1 Abomasnow because: http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-genesect-ex-s-one-weakness-is-easily-beaten

It would need to be a 2 and 2 line to make it work in the deck, but it really isn't applicable considering G-booster does 200 and shreds through anything. Even the only (somewhat) playable fire EX, Victini, is KO'ed by Genesect's first attack with hypnotoxic. For the last two cards, I might suggest another shadow triad and a tool scrapper. You would need another shadow triad for the extra hypno toxic or the extra G-booser. The tool scrapper is because of the new format, and most standard decks will need to run it.