New claydoll ?

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D.u.n.g.e.o.n

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We all know that claydoll will prolly be ruled out of the new format in september, and i know you as me have been asking how will we draw cards from now on, it might be late but i just saw scans of the new megnezone from the next set and is reads:

Magnezone (Prime) - Lightning - HP 140
Stage 2 - Evolves from Magneton
Poke-Power: Electromagnetic Draw
You can use this power once during your turn. Draw cards from your deck until you have 6 cards in your hand. This power can't be used if this Pokemon is affected by a Special Condition.
[L][C] Lost Burn: 50x damage. Place any number of Energy attached to your Pokemon in play into the Lost Zone. This attack does 50 damage for each Energy card you place.
Weakness: Fighting x2
Resistance: Metal -20
Retreat: ?


Thoughs?
 
It could, but the fact that it is a stage-2 makes it a lot slower than Claydol. Not to mention, as long as you have a hand that is at least six cards Magnezone is useless. Stage-2+less than 6 cards doesn't make it as a good as Claydol.
 
It can be the new draw power, but it is harder to set up. Also, Claydol prevents you from decking yourself as fast, this doesn't. It is good, but not as good as Claydol.
 
I think that it is slightly worse, although it can attack better, also I don't think that stage 2 will effect it that much cause rare candy will still be legal and a good percent of the decks that run claydol already run rare candy
 
its obviously that claydoll is better.
My point is that as claydoll will be out of the next format this might be a good alternative.
 
D.u.n.g.e.o.n said:
its obviously that claydoll is better.
My point is that as claydoll will be out of the next format this might be a good alternative.
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a stage 2 prime is not an alternative to claydol. I would rather use no drawpower than use magnezone prime. You would get that out too late for the drawpower to matter.
 
The only stage 2 supporter that ever really worked was Pidgeot FRLG and for good reason. This however is a highly situational source of draw power that can't be used is all decks. I'd much rather just focus on my T/S/ for draw power over Magnezone Prime.
 
no card cycling = this card is half times worse than claydol -- and i would rather splash a couple of volkners or Oak's in before i "tech in" one -- unless you were making a zone deck.
 
I've been giving this card some thought and realized that the only downside is not being able to cycle cards from your hand into your deck to draw what you need like with Claydol, as with Magnezone Prime If you have 6 or more cards in hand you can't pitch any cards to accelerate your card advantage.

On the upside Rare Candy and BTS really makes this card shine, though it does seem like you're wasting a Supporting attacker just as a tech while relying too much on your main attacker being something else depending on what your strategy is. I can see it being good to run but at the same time I don't expect it to be as fast as people expect it to be well it's a Stage 2 duh!

No matter how you look at it the Post-Rotation meta is going to be much slower than it is now.
 
This card actually encourages something we haven't seen in a while: a mill-type strategy. Play a ton of Trainers including Rare Candy and get your hand really low in cards while you get set up, then a draw a few more cards and continue milling. Claydol is infinitely better, but Magnezone does have some potential. Ninetales HS has a much better Poke-Power for Fire-type decks, and I get the feeling that once Claydol is rotated out, we'll be seeing a lot of that. Assuming, of course, there will even be a rotation.
 
They don't want us to use pokemon engines in every one of our decks. They want us to use trainer and supporter engines.

GHJamesGH said:
They don't want us to use pokemon engines in every one of our decks. They want us to use trainer and supporter engines. I say either that, or they are going to give each type a pokemon engine.
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I would say that Magnezone Prime may be our new Claydol. I find Magnezone a great card to fill up your hand when you are low on cards. That's what's good about it. It's also not too bad of an attacker compared to Claydol.

Now just because it is a stage 2 doesn't mean it isn't good. Look at Pidgeot FRLG. That card was a stage 2 Pokemon, and it was used primarily for drawpower too. Thus, Magnezone is almost the same thing. It can be used primiarily in non SP decks, in which you would be running a 2-1-2. In this way, running 2-1-2 makes Magnezone consistent.

Now the problem is that you may need to consider about having cards that can empty out your hand a bit so that you can have more drawpower potential. Still, I look at Magnezone as the new Claydol of next year's modified.
 
Night teleporter might work well with it :p
night teleporter for the magnezone, evolve magneton and draw 6.
or just another card, play it and draw 6.
 
JPN Gallade said:
Now just because it is a stage 2 doesn't mean it isn't good. Look at Pidgeot FRLG. That card was a stage 2 Pokemon, and it was used primarily for drawpower too. Thus, Magnezone is almost the same thing. It can be used primiarily in non SP decks, in which you would be running a 2-1-2. In this way, running 2-1-2 makes Magnezone consistent.

Now the problem is that you may need to consider about having cards that can empty out your hand a bit so that you can have more drawpower potential. Still, I look at Magnezone as the new Claydol of next year's modified.
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Pidgeot could search your deck for ANY card you wanted though you could only use 1 of its power a turn - it wasn't dependant on hand size.

unless you run a deck that focuses on Milling through your deck using trainers like Pokedex Handy and such you won't be getting much use out of Magnezone Prime as most decks i imgaine in the future will be relying on Supporters/Trainers for speed so a hand size less than 6 will be quite uncommon. In this case Volkner's Philosophy > Magnezone Prime (IMO) though that doesn't mean i'm going to start running 4 Volkner's Philosophy after rotation (or maybe i will).
 
I think it would really help Magnezone decks, but not much else... Magnezone may or may not make a comeback anyway.
 
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