New deck idea for BW - Dragons!!! 2009 is coming back from the dead!

[TPZ]

The answer to Garchomp is definitely NOT Celebi EX + Vibrava. It hits Garchomp for 100, then Garchomp will more than likely just OHKO your Flygon. Not to mention, 1 Altaria on their bench, and they can just Dragonblade your Celebi EX for two prizes. Celebi isn't worth running in this deck.

 

[CrystalEyeMonster]

I personally like Blastoise + Dusknoir + Kyerum

It does 30 to the board, so a max of 150, then move it around to destroy EX's in about two turns,
Blastoise to get energy really fast. And Kyerum to do the nasty damage. I don't really like Flygon, seeing as the energy is pretty high.

 

[Rikko145]

With Flygon you get 30 less snipe for NO energy. And instead of 2 Stage 2's and powering the basic, you only have to get the 2 Stage 2's without ever attaching energies.

 

[Psy]

the biggest problem is everything is going to be VERY easy to OHKO in this deck, not to mention with the Energy Accel people using with Energy Switch (about to be/already is a huge card) dropping something from the hand and OHKO isnt going to be an issue vs this.

Sure Mewtwo needs help to OHKO the Dusk (due to no energys on him), but there is PLENTY else out there that can do it just as quick.

Good deck, heard alot of people talk about it, but i think most of them agree its a fun deck, not a teir 1-2 or even that close.
(i say this and might be wrong, so go hard and build it, test it, let people know how it goes)

 

[Rikko145]

140 HP isn't very easy to OHKO. Only type weakness allows for OHKO's. Nothing in ZekEels or Darkrai can do it.

 

[alex]

Hydreigon, Garchomp and Rayquaza all OHKO Flygon.

 

[Rikko145]

Only type weakness allows for OHKO's.

 

[alex]

...And type weakness 100% matters.

 

[Rikko145]

I know, but I posted that two posts ago and it seems as though you missed it. And people will realize fairly quickly that Hydreigon and Rayquayza are both terrible, so those don't really matter anyways.

 

[alex]

And people will realize fairly quickly that Hydreigon and Rayquayza are both terrible, so those don't really matter anyways.

 

[Rikko145]

You can't tell me you think Rayquaza is good. -_- It's an EX that gets OHKO'd by Garchomp.

 

[alex]

It's a good 1-of, to pull out when it can win you the game. You just don't use it in the Garchomp matchup. It's a very powerful card, which is how it got it's initial hype.

And please try to explain how Hydreigon is bad...

 

[9Tailz]

People might use Rayquaza as an attacker, but never Hydreigon. Hydreigon is only to move energy around to heal whatever your using him with.

 

[alex]

People might use Rayquaza as an attacker, but never Hydreigon. Hydreigon is only to move energy around to heal whatever your using him with.

With Blend, you can attack with him when you need to. Versus this deck, it would be very useful to be able to OHKO Flygon with Hydreigon maybe every other turn, and the other turns you could attack Flygon's evolutions.

 

[MDL]

Hydreigon is a very good attacker. It OHKOs Zekroms, Empoleons, Klinklangs, Terrakions, etc. and the discard isn't too much of a problem since you run Dark Patch. Not good enough?

 

[9Tailz]

With Blend, you can attack with him when you need to. Versus this deck, it would be very useful to be able to OHKO Flygon with Hydreigon maybe every other turn, and the other turns you could attack Flygon's evolutions.

*9Tailz blinks*
*9Tailz restarts her brain*
*9Tailz facedesks so hard she breaks her desk*
Well, I guess I never realized that Darkrai Hydreigon would carry Blend. :/

 

[Rikko145]

It's a good 1-of, to pull out when it can win you the game. You just don't use it in the Garchomp matchup. It's a very powerful card, which is how it got it's initial hype.

And please try to explain how Hydreigon is bad...

I was thinking of a deck built solely around it. I personally don't know if I'd even run a 1-of, but that's just preferance I suppose. Although, you can't avoid it in the Garchomp matchup if you happen to start with it. (Odds are you won't, but it's a possibility that my kind of luck would hit. )

I think Hydreigon is bad because other dragons just Catcher OHKO it and because there will be more multi-type decks, meaning that your big basics are going to be hit for weakness and possibly OHKO'd much more often. Klingklang had an advantage, being that nobody played Fire at Nationals. I feel that weakness really cripples this deck.

 

[MDL]

I don't think that so much, because I mean, VS Garchomp/Altaria you OHKO their Altarias, so it's kind of even. Then the other Dragon I can see is Rayquaza non-EX, but it does need 3 energy overall.