New Draw Power

[catutie]

so rotation is coming (not that soon but it will be here) so ive been thinking, with uxie gone...what will we use for draw power. here are some of my thoughts. i will be taking the cards from RR-on

volkner is even great now. it can be a semi uxie replacment but i doubt anything will do that.

now i dont see why this card isnt used now. its pretty much a uxie. it could work quite well in most decks after rotation.

this card isnt that great but it could work as some sort of draw power post rotation.

although it may not be draw power but it is nice hand refresh. it already is a great card now so this one is quite obvious

this card has much potential i think. the biggest drawback obviously is your opponent draws a card but three cards is great draw power

this card is great...i dont know why it just is. it can be a bill or it can be a cheerleader cheer with no draw back. you do take a risk but when it pays off its great.

this could be the greatest draw power after rotation. the only time it wouldnt work is in low energy decks but other than that the cost is so much less than the pay off. it could even work now.

this is also a great one. drawing and disruption is great. not much with this one but disruption is great.

i know its a stage 2 but a constant draw each turn is great. rare candy a magnemite and you are good for the rest of the game.

ninteails is great for fire deck but not to much else. it is great for consistent draw power

*insert shuckle promo* (cant find it anywhere...at least in english...weird)

shuckle will be great paired up with high energy decks or decks that attach mass amounts of energies.

it has an obvious drawback that you let your opponent draw but it could be a good starter in lostgar to force your oponent to draw into poke or and good starter in vilegius to make your opponent draw into trainers that they wont be able to play

could potentially be a great starter. LZ useless draws to get better cards in your hand. just dont put pokemon cause your opponent could pull at lost world on you

just like professor oak back in the good old days it could become a staple like back then



so what do you guys think. im sure i left some out and go ahead and inclue your own. i didnt put BW cards because well...just because lol. so ya what do you think could be our future draw power?

 

[DNA]

Good ideas. I'd like to remark the following, though, on your choices.

~The reason Lucky Egg isn't used is usually because, by the time its effect activates, your hand already has 8+ cards in it.
~Volkner's Philosophy is situational also, for a similar reason.
~Cheren, a Supporter from the B/W set, has the effect "Draw 3 cards", and that is it. It makes Bill, Emcee, POV, and Cheerleader all simultaneously obsolete.
~Team Rocket's Trickery, though, is as amazing as ever. For Supporters of that nature, people will most likely run a mixture of Cheren and Team Rocket's Trickery, if there aren't that many good Supporters post-rotation, which may very well be a reality.
~Magnezone Prime? Eh, I dunno. It's definitely possible.

 

[dmaster]

I'm surprised by the lack of Cheren (as covered above) and Ninetales. Sure, Ninetales is still only useful in certain decks and scenarios, but it deserves a mention with Volkner's/Magnezone Prime and the like.

dmaster out.

 

[Shinigami]

Lucky Egg isn't used for the reason mentioned above, as well as these:

1) It takes up the place of an Expert Belt/De-Evoluter/Energy Gain/Unown Q/etc. There are better tools in the format that help you win faster.
2) It requires you to give up a prize- always a bad idea.

I also agree that Ninetales should be mentioned, as well as PromoShuckle. PromoShuckle may (depending on card rulings) be THE go-to draw card for energy spam decks in the future.

 

[blargh257]

SHUCKLE!!!

shuckle will be very fun in anything with emboar

(promo shuckle has fermenting liquid- draw 1 after energy attachment.)

i think it will work in magnezone.

 

[DNA]

1) It takes up the place of an Expert Belt/De-Evoluter/Energy Gain/Unown Q/etc. There are better tools in the format that help you win faster.

Aside from Expert Belt, the new format will have none of those things...

 

[Glace]

Shuckle, Ninetails, and Engineers will be draw power that is good. PONT isn't really draw power, as its more for consistancy.

 

[Gengar_is_Pwnage]

I beg to differ on Professor Oaks Visit. I use it and its great draw power. Constantly gets one card out of your hand to the bottom of your deck that you can re use/search for.

Magnezone Prime however. I will be using him in my Galvantula/Magnezone deck. But after rotation, he will be BIF for draw power in terms of Pokemon

 

[Godzillian]

Professor Juniper. It's like a PONT+! Of course, it's best to use if you have stuff you want to discard or if you have little to no cards in your hand.

 

[catutie]

i mentioned that i wasnt gonna add BW cards >.>

i see lucky egga ttached to things like spiritomb that are there for set up and to stall. once they have served there purpose they can be KO'ed. thus attach a lucky egg and further your set up.

i added ninetails and shuckle

 

[Futa]

Unless Spiritomb was Benched when you attached Lucky Egg, how can it be on Spiritomb?

 

[Godzillian]

Shuckle's only good if you have Emboar, which is from B/W, combined with Shaymin UL or Lucian's Assignment (if it's RR-on). Therefore, when you're thinking of Shuckle, you're thinking of a B/W combo. As such, you might as well add B/W.

Emcee's Chatter is the worst draw power card, next to Bill. As a user already mentioned, with Cheren in the set, that pretty much makes POV, Bill, and other straight-up draw cards outdated.

While you're mentioning PONT, how about Judge? It's not exactly the best hand refresh but it's pretty devastating when you Judge your opponent into a nightmare hand.

 

[nabby101]

I thought Cheren was getting cut from BW. I could be wrong though, and if I am he will be one of the best forms of draw power in the new format. Team Rocket's Trickery is even better than Team Galactic's Wager, and that card was fun. Shuckle seems like a bit of a joke, although if you can find a way to abuse it... I use Volkner's right now, and it's great. Not as good as Uxie, but since Uxie will be gone soon, we won't have that choice.

 

[Zorua]

Cheren will become a staple soon enough, most likely after rotation. I would be using it now, but it's just not too viable in our format. Oh well, rotations only 3-4 months away.

 

[catutie]

Unless Spiritomb was Benched when you attached Lucky Egg, how can it be on Spiritomb?

oh ya...oh well lol

ANYWAY i didnt put BW cards because we dont know for sure what will be in the set so anything now is really speculation unless it is for sure been reported. i thought cheren wasnt in this set? ill have to double check but again...im not putting BW cards lol.

i didnt put judge because its more disruption than drawing...actually its terrible for drawing. only having a 4 card hand sucks. sure you might be able to combo it with magnezone but that is just to much space to draw a couple cards...

 

[Godzillian]

I'd say Judge is pretty good. It's not draw power - it's refresh power. Not as good as PONT, but more disruptive than TRT.

"What, you want me to discard any 1 card from my hand!? Oh noez! -discards Magikarp-"

And yeah, I checked up Cheren. Looks like it might be cut out from the set - my bad.

Ninetales + Engineer's Adjustments = 7-card draw, FUN!

 

[catutie]

>.>...this is post rotation...gyarados wont be around

i guess if you put it that way...i should take PONT off...agreed?

 

[daviduk2000]

i really like Proffesor oaks visit. i think its more usefull than cheren in occasions.
especially my mewperior if i have my 2 LV.x's in hand which does happen.
and other times its good to put stuff back in deck.

 

[Glace]

If you had both X's in your hand, Bebes is best to get it out because you don't draw into the energy your supposed to use to attack. I'd take Bill of the list. Though both it and Emcee's are really bad, Emcees is still better, so Bill is pointless.

 

[Futa]

Why is Bill on the list? Team Rocket's Trickery is Bill, but better since you force your opponent to discard. Plus, there are millions of better cards than Bill. Even Emcee's, Cheerleader's Cheer, and Professor Oak's Visit are better than Bill, yet those three are still outclassed by cards like PONT, Copycat, etc.