Pokemon New T-Tar set!

[DeagleBeagle]

Came up with this new T-Tar set. I looked on smogon a few other places and they did not have the set. This is the dragon dance one and it is made to take on pretty much any pokemon it can outspeed after a DD. (Which is any pokemon 361 speed or under).

Ok with DD and LO boost, its attack gets to about 481 if speed raising nature. One DD makes it to about 720 attack and about 364 speed if speed raising nature and max ivs and evs in attack and speed.

That means it can take out pretty much anything if it has the right movepool. And has enough defenses to withstand at least one attack usually, or kill the pokemon who can ohko it.

It can take on gyrados, lucario,and many others, but the set was originally made for killing machamps and garchomps since outrage kills chomp and many other pokemon that either resist or super effected by the dragon type move.

Ok here is the set: LO Dragon dance Outrage EQ/Fire Blast Taunt/fire blast/EQ/SE/filler move

The last two moves are mainly filler moves but they give you examples of what to use on the set.

LO with Fire blast can be used to kill skarms in one hit, and to kill or almost kill brozong or to take on things like scizor that might be able to wall it for one turn. Other moves like SE can be used to kill say gyrados that would normally kill in one hit with waterfall unless you gave it some defense or hp evs.

The moveset I use it Outrage Dragon dance EQ Fire Blast and it works well as a bulky sweeper, and a pokemon than can bring in weather effects to take care of sash and etc.

 

[GraysonViolin]

Pretty Cool, but Swampert and Fighting types, the most common switch ins, still kill it without fear. A Non stabbed Outrage from such a slow Pokemon doesn't seem effective. If you want a surprise kill on Garchomp then you might as well just use Ice Beam, the standard, to hit Gliscor and Hippowdon too. But Garchomp is banned here anyway, so it is irrelevant.

Also, What do you mean by "take on"? You can't switch in on Lucario, or have it switch in the same time as you.

And I don't think this is going to be hurting Machamps or handling gyarados anytime soon....

 

[DeagleBeagle]

Nah ice beam cant kill any dragon these days with all the Yache berry abuse, why do you think I am using outrage? When I mean "take on" I am assuming when I bring out t tar, the foe cant kill me in one hit, and has to either stay in and do almost nothing, or switch to a "t tar counter" like chomp or machamp. And also ice beam isn't physical and can't benefit from Dragon dancing.

I know it cant really take on swampert, but like I said, you can tweak the moveset a little, and maybe put hp grass on for swamperts, or just you know, change it in general to make it do whatever you would like, and that is just one pokemon.

It takes out any machamp not ev'd in defense or hp in one hit after a DD including life orb, and outspeeds. So they wouldnt expect to get ohko'd, so they switch in say machamp or garchomp and get ohko'd on the spot. I know garchomp is banned here but that is kind of irrelevant because I am referring to pokemon in general that are used, not just PokeBeachs tier list, but I do see your point.

But just because your from PokeBeach doesn't mean you will always have non-chomp battles. People like KG have to fight chomp all the time in OU because garchomp is allowed in OU in pretty much anywhere except this forum.

But thanks for commenting, I was curious what opinion someone would have about this. I have tested it and it does sucessfully work, scarfchomps can be a little bit of a problem though unless you can predict. But you should see if their garchomp is scarfed 1st anyways before you go off dragon dancing or something. But most of the time it is just yachechomp, so scarf isn't that much to worry about in non-PokeBeach battling.

What's so good about this set is that the moveset can easily be altered since it has life orb to boost special and physical attacks, so hidden powers and etc like surf or ice beam or fire blast could actually be used, and do some damage.

 

[Lieutenant Houndoom]

Well, considering how little ScarfChomp's Outrage did to my Tangrowth I doubt T-tar's one will do fare any better. It's probably only going to manage about 30% or so. Of course, that's 100/125 so not everything has that defensivity. You still need to be able to stop getting walled by Steels, though, considering you have to be able to blast them with Fire before starting up your Outrage.

Might work, though lack of STAB is likely to stop you killing things Garchomp usually could.

 

[Salice]

Outrage DD Tar has a been used for quite some time by myself, IPL, Aldaron, and a few other people I know as a way to shoot through the Yache Berry (although I occasionally ran Haban Berry Garchomp when Scarfchomp was a popular revenge killer to SD Chomp). Fire Blast is interesting though.

 

[Noobnerd]

There is a thread in Pokemon DPP Discussion for posting new movesets.

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