Next Destinies Amoongus

Personally, Eel should be no more than a 1-1 tech and I believe it shouldn't be run at all. The appeal of Zebstrika is its first attack, not its second, so Eel is pointless. You're trying to create a status/trainer lock to prevent them from doing anything, sniping would be just to take a quick prize (like sudden death or running low on time).
 
I think Amoongus + Druddigon + Rocky Helmet would make for a fun deck. I don't know how much competitive value it would have since its damage output would be fairly low, but it would be fun for league or something.
 
This Amoongus is outclassed by Roserade in every way, and Roserade is a terrible card, you can only guess how bad this makes Amoongus in my eyes. I really don't understand why it is receiving any hype. We have already seen that decks centered around special conditions are bad, all the attackers special condition decks can utilize are too frail, stage 1's, and require Trainer Lock to function properly. For this combo to function for one turn (one knock out), you are going to have to get out two stage 1 lines, and in most cases, a Vileplume is desired, if not needed. This is true for Ninetails, Leafeon, and Zebstrika (lol).

Decks centered around Amoongus will fail, because other things can hit for the same amount of large damage, consistently, and take a hit or two because the main attacker of the deck has more than 90 HP. This card also falls short of being a good tech, you will need a 2-2 line for it to work "consistently", so it takes up four deck space, and a benched space (or 2), to give your opponent a small inconvenience, assuming they don't get a lucky coin flip or hit a switch. It is also worth mentioning you are only going to be able to get this combo off 1-2 times a game on average. Devolution Spray, ah, no, even if it were to be printed without a text change of some sort (which is unlikely), it would be bad, because it would eat up 2-3 deck spots, for a card that can only benefit one aspect of your deck. At least with Roserade, you already have Rainbow Energy in print, no ifs there, and your Rainbow Energy can be used by your other attacks. It is also worth mentioning that Roserade can function as a back up attack. I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it guys.
 
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Way to waste your energy attach for the turn on a Benched Pokemon. You'd better be running Leafeon or you just wasted 1 of your 4 non-searchable unreclaimable Rainbow Energy.

At the very least, Amoonguss can combo with Seeker and you don't need to waste too much time with it. You can just drop him, then Seeker him up and drop your Foongus. Then you can do whatever you'd like with your energy attachment for the turn.

One heavy downside to Amoonguss, which I will freely admit, is that Foongus only has 40 HP. Roselia has 60. That makes him pretty vulnerable to being killed early on, and may necessitate running 3-2 instead of 2-2.
The solution to this problem? Easy, you do the thing you should always do when running Special Conditions decks - you run 2-2-2 Vileplume.

I'm not saying Amoonguss outclasses Roserade in every way - nor am I saying that the opposite is true, either. Just pick one, and stick with it. I personally find that Roserade's main problem is that you need to have a card in your hand that you can't search for to make it work. Amoonguss has no such downside.
 
I'd still prefer Roserade over Amoongus. If you play 4 Rainbows it shouldn't be a problem to get just one during the time where you set up your Pokemon. Roserade can also combo with Seeker since you get your Rainbows back with it.

Roserade + 2x Rainbow + 1 Seeker =
Amoongus + 3 Seekers

The changes of getting the cards needed for that combo is about the same, but as sone as you have just one more seeker or rainbow with Roserade it'll be better.

Seekers are just as unsearchable and unreclaimable as Rainbow.
 
Simwar said:
I'd still prefer Roserade over Amoongus. If you play 4 Rainbows it shouldn't be a problem to get just one during the time where you set up your Pokemon. Roserade can also combo with Seeker since you get your Rainbows back with it.

Roserade + 2x Rainbow + 1 Seeker =
Amoongus + 3 Seekers

The changes of getting the cards needed for that combo is about the same, but as sone as you have just one more seeker or rainbow with Roserade it'll be better.

Seekers are just as unsearchable and unreclaimable as Rainbow.
Actually, Amoongus + 3 Seekers would be the same as four Amoonguss,so it's one more use than Roserade would get with the same resources. You can also just search another Amoonguss instead of relying on Seeker, which is far easier than trying to draw Rainbow and Seeker.
 
Also Vs Seeker and Unown R. They both have their pros and cons. Personally I would run both, neither is consistent enough to get every turn reliably but together you always have something, and your opponent can't stop you as easily this way.
 
Celebi23 said:
Actually, Amoongus + 3 Seekers would be the same as four Amoonguss,so it's one more use than Roserade would get with the same resources. You can also just search another Amoonguss instead of relying on Seeker, which is far easier than trying to draw Rainbow and Seeker.

2x Rainbows + a Seeker is also four uses since you get both rainbows back.
And now that I think of it, you could actualy search for Rainbow Energy using Energy Exchanger.
 
Seekers are just as unsearchable and unreclaimable as Rainbow.
True enough. I suppose I'd just prefer using up my Supporter for the turn than I would my Energy for the turn. And I suppose running Roserade might necessitate Energy Exchanger, but wouldn't that be unnecessary space? (Just a thought. I've never actually tested Roserade, but I have tested Amoonguss.)

That, and couldn't the Rainbows be more useful elsewhere? maybe?
 
You can move the Rainbow Energy with Shaymin if need be. Once you play Seeker, you can't take it back, that is another reason I prefer Roserade. It is also worth noting that Leafeon and Ninetails only need one energy to function, so wasting your energy for the turn isn't going to be too problematic. I would like to this clarify, Roserade and Amoongus are both pretty bad, its not like I think Roserade is an amazing card right now, I just feel it is slightly better than Amoongus.
 
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