Standard Ninetales BREAK / Team Magma's Camerupt / Eelektross

[yrkomm16]

Hello everyone! I want to present my own idea how to make my favourite fire Pokemon - Ninetales - playable. This is the deck list:

##Pokémon - 20

* 1 Shaymin-EX ROS 77
* 2 Team Magma's Numel DCR 1
* 2 Team Magma's Camerupt DCR 2
* 3 Ninetales BREAK EVO 16
* 3 Vulpix PRC 20
* 3 Ninetales PRC 21
* 2 Tynamo PRC 62 (or Psyduck)
* 1 Eelektrik PRC 63 (or Golduck)
* 2 Eelektross PRC 65 (or Golduck BREAK)
* 1 Mew-EX LTR 139 (or Flareon-EX GEN)

##Trainer Cards - 29

* 4 N PR-BLW BW100
* 1 Brock's Grit EVO 74
* 2 Lysandre AOR 78
* 2 Scorched Earth PRC 138
* 1 Brigette BKT 134
* 3 Float Stone BKT 137
* 3 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
* 4 Ultra Ball FAC 113
* 4 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
* 3 VS Seeker PHF 109
* 1 Delinquent BKP 98
* 1 Rare Candy PRC 135 (useless, when we going to play Golduck BREAK varriant)

##Energy - 11

* 3 Burning Energy BKT 151
* 8 Fire Energy GEN 76

Total Cards - 60

How this deck works? Ninetales BREAK discarding many energies, but it can one shot anything for 4 energies. Very expensive, because we MUST use only [F] energies. and Ninetales discarding it after attack. How to make it consistent? I found the way how to reach that goal. I explain cards role in this box:

Pokemons:

Shaymin-EX: For fast draw, don't worry about bench space, we have 4 free spots for another Ninetales (one is on active), 2 Camerupt and 1 Eelektross.

2x Team Magma Camerupt: Main energy refiller. With his ability we got guarantee of one extra energy per turn, because we rund Scorched Earth/Ultra Ball/Sycamore to help energies reach our discard pile. He needs Eelektross to move energy on correct Pokemon though.

3x Ninetales: Why not this from Evolutions? Because we don't need him. This Ninetales guarantee stadium control for a whole game (we must play Stadium before evolving it though). Good attack (70 DMG + sleep effect) is good for finishing off wounded monsters without energy discarding.

3x Ninetales BREAK: Only 10 DMG, but does +60 DMG for every single [F] energy discard via this attack. 190 DMG for 3 energies, only one more to massive 250 DMG, so we can just OHKO even Wailord-EX!

2x Eelektross: I was looking for correct part of Camerupt/Ninetales strategy. And i finally found Eelektross and 2nd warriant - Golduck BREAK. Yes, he is an Stage 2, but we have chance to bring him out with Rare Candy (one Wally can help too). He as often as you like moving energies from benched Pokemon straight to the active (Ninetales BREAK). Smart, isn't it?

Mew-EX/Flareon-EX: Second attacker. Mew OHKO M Mewtwo and M Alakazam, but Flareon has more synergy with Camerupts. Pick what you want.

Trainers:
I explain only presence of few cards, because i musn't talk about staples.

Delinquent: Why i added him? He helps when we evolved Ninetales, but opponent have his own stadium in play. Delinquent deleting stadium and we have hight chance to reduce opponent hand.

Scorched Earth: Almost free draw engine. Ninetales protecting Earth from replacing by foe, and gives us very good and smooth oppurtinity to draw and attach energies from discard via Camerupt. We force opponent to play Delinquent, so he can't use a draw supporter in many important rounds.

Rare Candy: Only one, because we don't have space for 2. For Eelektross of course.

3x Float Stone: 2x Camerupt and Eelektross has expensive retreat cost.

That's it. Please rate this deck and help me improve it. I very appreciate any feedback!

I forgot about main weakness of this deck - is Garbodor and Wobbuffet.

 

[AquaDragon82]

Max Elixir is a must have in most decks, especially this one. In my opinion, as cool as Eelektross seems, it takes too long to set up so I would scrap that line. Baby Volcanion might also be a decent addition to the deck since it can help set up several Vulpixes/Ninetales

 

[taschen88]

Yes, I agree, the Eelektross / Golduck line is better off with Volcanion. Perhaps 3 will do.
Also, this deck is very prone to the Regice+Ninjaboy+Glaceon-EX combo, quite a common threat to evolution-heavy decks, specially fire decks.
Maybe 1 Pokemon Ranger and 1 more Mew-EX can replace the 2 remaining slots.

 

[Scyther4lyfe]

I would def take out electross and I would add 1 more burning energy adn 2 solrock to get the burning energy out faster. Volcanino may be a good Idea and if your going expanded maybe some blacksmith's. Other than that it looks pretty solid. I would agree with the whole idea of adding some pokemon rangers and I would suggest maybe weakness policy for a tool for ninetales, due to Satrmie break OHKO'ing your ninetales especially a Starmie break that runs Wide lens. That's my suggestions.

 

[yrkomm16]

Updated list:


##Pokémon - 18

* 1 Shaymin-EX ROS 77
* 2 Team Magma's Numel DCR 1
* 2 Team Magma's Camerupt DCR 2
* 3 Ninetales BREAK EVO 16
* 3 Vulpix PRC 20
* 3 Ninetales PRC 21
* 2 Tynamo PRC 62
* 2 Eelektross PRC 65

##Trainer Cards - 32

* 3 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
* 4 N PR-BLW BW100
* 1 Super Rod BKT 149
* 2 Lysandre AOR 78
* 2 Scorched Earth PRC 138
* 1 Escape Rope PLS 120
* 2 Brigette BKT 134
* 1 Evosoda XY 116
* 2 Float Stone BKT 137
* 1 Pokémon Ranger STS 104
* 4 Ultra Ball FAC 113
* 2 Rare Candy PRC 135
* 4 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
* 3 VS Seeker PHF 109

##Energy - 10

* 4 Burning Energy BKT 151
* 6 Fire Energy GEN 76

Total Cards - 60

 

[fr33land]

Regice - ninja boy - Glaceon sounds terrifying. Hope that doesn't catch on. Add a smeargle and a jolteon too??

 

[taschen88]

Regice - ninja boy - Glaceon sounds terrifying. Hope that doesn't catch on. Add a smeargle and a jolteon too??

It's fairly common for Standard format Water decks, at least in PTCG Online. A few players have also added Jolteon-EX, too, for those who can afford to have one.

 

[yrkomm16]

This deck autoloosing against this. I added Ranger, but weakness... I just don't have chance against it. Maybe some Steel colorless attacker?

 

[TuxedoBlack]

I forgot about main weakness of this deck - is Garbodor and Wobbuffet.

In addition, Hex Maniac will hurt you too. So, your stated "guarantees" truly are not guaranteed during a game.

Instead of 3 Float Stone, consider replacing 1 of them with an Olympia which can be reused via VS Seeker.

How many turns does it normally take you to get setup (i.e., when you can attack and have all of your supporting Pokémon in play)? If it's 3-4 turns on average, I suspect you may have had a Pokémon KOd during those turns; so, a Teammates might be helpful to use.

Your deck has lots of "moving parts" all of which are needed to make the deck function properly. Also, more moving parts = increased risk of malfunction. Is 1 Super rod adequate? Should your opponent play a Parallel City, limiting your bench to just 3 Pokémon, could you recover and re-setup your bench in time?

 

[Robin Aisaga]

##Pokémon - 18

* 1 Shaymin-EX ROS 77
* 2 Team Magma's Numel DCR 1
* 2 Team Magma's Camerupt DCR 2
* 3 Ninetales BREAK EVO 16
* 3 Vulpix PRC 20
* 3 Ninetales PRC 21
* 2 Tynamo PRC 62
* 2 Eelektross PRC 65

##Trainer Cards - 32

* 3 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
* 4 N PR-BLW BW100
* 1 Super Rod BKT 149
* 2 Lysandre AOR 78
* 2 Scorched Earth PRC 138
* 1 Escape Rope PLS 120
* 2 Brigette BKT 134
* 1 Evosoda XY 116
* 2 Float Stone BKT 137
* 1 Pokémon Ranger STS 104
* 4 Ultra Ball FAC 113
* 2 Rare Candy PRC 135
* 4 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
* 3 VS Seeker PHF 109

##Energy - 10

* 4 Burning Energy BKT 151
* 6 Fire Energy GEN 76

Total Cards - 60

I like this deck, but I would definitly switch around some of the Pokémon. In my opinion Eelektross is a poor conclusion. Team Magma's Camerupt works awesome with Ninetales BREAK, but do you know what you really need to complete this combo? Flareon EX. It's ability makes the energy cycle complete. Team Magma's Camerupt can retrieve energy but isn't able to do much damage. With Flash Fire you can move Fire Energy (and also Burning Energy) to Flareon EX. This makes up fo the lack of attackers and good Pokémon to start with.

Now we can also remove Rare Candy, it doesn't work with BREAKS so it's useless. With our newly created deck spots we can make the Pokémon count more consistent. Team Magma's Camerupt should be a 3-3 line for consistent energy retrieval, I think this way it's also save to remove Super Rod (Replace it with Brock's Grit if you decide to keep this tech) Add another Shaymin EX, you don't want your only copy to be priced. Brigette is a good card with a deck running so few EX cards, however I would still replace it with Pokémon Fan Club just because Brigette can't activate Set-up. Also one is sufficient. A supporter that can be helpful to this deck set up is Wally. You want Ninetales to be out fast to start the stadium lock.