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Standard Ninetales-Zoroark Gx

alukra

alukra

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Hi, I'm currently playing this deck, it works well, but I need help with two matchup, Gardevoir Gx and Buzzhole Gx, my problem with Gardevoir is that I need play only using espeon-ex, they do so trouble to me, and buzzhole in my early game I always start a little bit slow so buzzhole in their first turn ko 1 or 2 basic vulpix, zorua or koko
My list is:

##Pokémon - 16

* 2 Zorua PR-SM SM83
* 2 Zoroark-GX PR-SM SM84
* 2 Tapu Koko PR-SM SM30
* 1 Espeon-EX BKP 52
* 1 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 60
* 4 Alolan Vulpix GRI 21
* 1 Alolan Ninetales BUS 28
* 3 Alolan Ninetales-GX GRI 22

##Trainer Cards - 32

* 4 Aqua Patch GRI 119
* 1 Rescue Stretcher GRI 130
* 4 N DEX 96
* 1 Acerola BUS 112
* 3 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 1 Brigette BKT 134
* 1 Special Charge STS 105
* 2 Field Blower GRI 125
* 3 Guzma BUS 115
* 4 Choice Band BUS 162
* 1 Mallow GRI 145
* 3 Ultra Ball FCO 113
* 1 Enhanced Hammer PHF 94
* 3 Professor Kukui SUM 128

##Energy - 12

* 8 Water Energy 3
* 4 Double Colorless Energy EVO 90

Reason of my list:
I run 3 Kukui because it help me a lot with boost my damage with ninetales with him I can 1-ko almost any 210hp pokemon in play
3 Ultraball, I usually play 4 but in this deck I dunno why I dont used it to much, I always discard it with Trade

Option that I considered
+1 Acerola: she help that weak ninetales recover and play with another vulpix in my bench
+4 puzzle of time: with zoroark the aceleration of puzzle of time is so great
+1 Zorua, +1 Zoroark gx + 1 Zoroark Stand in: more aceleration and 1 prize attacker
1 Mewtwo evolution I think that this mewtwo can help me with buzzhole and gardevoir
1-1 line of bisharp: Revenge killer

And this are my options but I dunno what should I need to move for add something o change, because I feel that all is important in my deck so I don't know where to start.

Thanks for your help
 
I've been playing 4 puzzle of time but the resulsts weren't as good as it would be with 4 zoroark (which I think is too much for this deck) so I took it off. After Zoroark, I've found 2 Tpau Koko + Espeon pretty useless most of the time, which led me to run 1 Tapu Koko for free retreat and no Espeon EX, by the way, my list is very similar to yours and I've been getting good results. As for Buzzwole, I started playing Mr. Mime (mainly because there's a huge amount of Weavile in my local league) and it's been a good answer.
 
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alukra said:
Hi, I'm currently playing this deck, it works well, but I need help with two matchup, Gardevoir Gx and Buzzhole Gx, my problem with Gardevoir is that I need play only using espeon-ex, they do so trouble to me, and buzzhole in my early game I always start a little bit slow so buzzhole in their first turn ko 1 or 2 basic vulpix, zorua or koko
My list is:

##Pokémon - 16

* 2 Zorua PR-SM SM83
* 2 Zoroark-GX PR-SM SM84
* 2 Tapu Koko PR-SM SM30
* 1 Espeon-EX BKP 52
* 1 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 60
* 4 Alolan Vulpix GRI 21
* 1 Alolan Ninetales BUS 28
* 3 Alolan Ninetales-GX GRI 22

##Trainer Cards - 32

* 4 Aqua Patch GRI 119
* 1 Rescue Stretcher GRI 130
* 4 N DEX 96
* 1 Acerola BUS 112
* 3 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 1 Brigette BKT 134
* 1 Special Charge STS 105
* 2 Field Blower GRI 125
* 3 Guzma BUS 115
* 4 Choice Band BUS 162
* 1 Mallow GRI 145
* 3 Ultra Ball FCO 113
* 1 Enhanced Hammer PHF 94
* 3 Professor Kukui SUM 128

##Energy - 12

* 8 Water Energy 3
* 4 Double Colorless Energy EVO 90

Reason of my list:
I run 3 Kukui because it help me a lot with boost my damage with ninetales with him I can 1-ko almost any 210hp pokemon in play
3 Ultraball, I usually play 4 but in this deck I dunno why I dont used it to much, I always discard it with Trade

Option that I considered
+1 Acerola: she help that weak ninetales recover and play with another vulpix in my bench
+4 puzzle of time: with zoroark the aceleration of puzzle of time is so great
+1 Zorua, +1 Zoroark gx + 1 Zoroark Stand in: more aceleration and 1 prize attacker
1 Mewtwo evolution I think that this mewtwo can help me with buzzhole and gardevoir
1-1 line of bisharp: Revenge killer

And this are my options but I dunno what should I need to move for add something o change, because I feel that all is important in my deck so I don't know where to start.

Thanks for your help
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Buzzhole?
 
Well, try Mewtwo [EVO]. It helps to OHKO Buzzwole (If it doesn't have fighting fury belt) plus it is useful because your deck already utilizes DCE anyway. About Gardi; Espeon EX should work, especially with tapu koko.
 
Carlton Roe said:
Buzzhole?
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Yes, Mainly when I have slow start they snipe al my basics

Calcab said:
I've been playing 4 puzzle of time but the resulsts weren't as good as it would be with 4 zoroark (which I think is too much for this deck) so I took it off. After Zoroark, I've found 2 Tpau Koko + Espeon pretty useless most of the time, which led me to run 1 Tapu Koko for free retreat and no Espeon EX, by the way, my list is very similar to yours and I've been getting good results. As for Buzzwole, I started playing Mr. Mime (mainly because there's a huge amount of Weavile in my local league) and it's been a good answer.
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Yes I feel a little complicated with only 2 zoroark

Professor_jplap said:
Well, try Mewtwo [EVO]. It helps to OHKO Buzzwole (If it doesn't have fighting fury belt) plus it is useful because your deck already utilizes DCE anyway. About Gardi; Espeon EX should work, especially with tapu koko.
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I consider mewtwo but I need where to star, I feel that all the cards are important so I dont know what I should run less copy o no copy of that
 
alukra said:
Yes, Mainly when I have slow start they snipe al my basics


Yes I feel a little complicated with only 2 zoroark


I consider mewtwo but I need where to star, I feel that all the cards are important so I dont know what I should run less copy o no copy of that
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The thing is you can't really put everything useful in a deck, so try to think which cards are the least necessary. I would suggest you take out:
1. 1 kukui (2 left), since you have two koko that help you set up the 20 damage on board.
2. enhaced hammer
3. acerola (Ninetales has its gx attack, and you won't be attacking with zoroark that often)
4. maybe the special charge, because I don't think it is really necessary with 8 water energy in deck

With that being said, I think the second copy of Lele and a fourth copy of ultra ball are definitely needed, because I think, without that, your deck will not be consistent enough through games.

For the garde matchup, you basically just want to spread with koko at least once before attacking (twich would be better). For Buzzwole, I really think it would not be a great deal if you don't feed him zoroark. (with a choice band, ninetales can ohko the buzzwole)
 
Also, the thing about this deck is that, most of the times, you can just win by baby ninetales lol. (so take out all their non-gx attackers)
 
alukra said:
Yes, Mainly when I have slow start they snipe al my basics


Yes I feel a little complicated with only 2 zoroark


I consider mewtwo but I need where to star, I feel that all the cards are important so I dont know what I should run less copy o no copy of that
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I'm pretty sure it's pronounced Buzzwole
 
lol, yes Buzzwole I don't know why I think is hole...

Thanks, maybe acerola, kukui and special charge, In my locals tournantment they used a lot special energy so it enchanced help me a lot. I'll test with this changed, the other lele I would put again ( I would buy it again ...)

I will test with
+1 lele
+1 ultraball
+1 mewtwo

-1 kukui
-1 acerola
-1 special charge
 
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