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Plasma Faries: Possible LCQ Deck 1/4 (Aromatisse / Plasma)

Elbow

Elbow

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This deck is a possible deck I may play at the World's LCQ, I'm still deciding ATM, but here's what I have so far:

Pokemon: 14

  • 3 Spritzee XY
    2 Aromatisse XY (Shift)
    2 Thundurus EX PLF (Supporter)
    2 Genesect EX PLB (Main attacker/Catcher)
    1 Giratina EX (Pyroar)
    1 Entei EX (VirGen)
    1 Virizion EX (Healer)
    1 Landorus EX (Thundy/Miltank OHKOer)
    1 Yveltal EX (Sweeper)
Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums: 34

  • 4 Max Potion
    3 Ultra Ball
    3 Muscle Band
    2 Startling Megaphone
    1 Level Ball
    1 Team Plasma Ball
    1 Switch
    1 Pal Pad
    1 Sacred Ash

    4 N
    4 Prof. Juniper
    2 Skyla
    1 Colress
    1 Cassius
    1 Shadow Triad

    3 Fairy Garden

    1 G-Booster
Energy: 12

  • 4 Prism
    4 Rainbow
    4 Plasma

Strategy:
After scoping out what your opponent is playing after T1, plan bench space accordingly for appropriate pokemon. Have a early spritzee out, maybe 2 if playing a deck with early spread damage. Use an ultra ball/juniper to get rid of 1-2 energies and hopefully get out both thundurus and genesect EX by T2 (happens 4/5 times).
Use max potions when running low on health, plasma for genesect, sacred ash because of no basic energy, its all kind of obvious.
Its very techy, so without cutting down on most of the pokemon I want to have a more consistent deck. I know I want to take out stuff for darkrai, but I definitely need more switching cards.
Please don't do troll feedback, like "take out all of the techs for Kyurem and Deoxys" as those will be ignored or deleted.
Thanks for reading!
 
RE: Plasma Faries: Possible LCQ Deck 1/4

Wow, nice deck! Good luck at the grinder! :D

So, about the deck, I'd do:

-1 Cassius: Yes, it works kinda like a Max Potion, but it's not really good...
-1 Shauna: It's not the best draw Supporter you can have, TBH. Sure, it's good, bud not in multiple copies.
+1 Escape Rope: You wanted more switching cards, and it's a very cool card when used correctly. ;)
+1 Colress: With this deck, you tend to have a full bench, so you'll draw at least as much as with Shauna most of the time.

And also, if you want to think outside the box:

-1 G Booster
-1 Genesect-EX
+1 Dowsing Machine/Computer Search
+1 Lugia-EX
I know, that might sound crazy when you first see it, but that 4th Max Potion, or the Prism you need so desperately is something you just can't deny it's very good. And Lugia can be very advantageous against decks with Miltank and he like, taking 2 Prizes.

Hope I could help you, and let me know what you think! :D
 
RE: Plasma Faries: Possible LCQ Deck 1/4

Luispipe8 said:
Wow, nice deck! Good luck at the grinder! :D

So, about the deck, I'd do:

-1 Cassius: Yes, it works kinda like a Max Potion, but it's not really good...
-1 Shauna: It's not the best draw Supporter you can have, TBH. Sure, it's good, bud not in multiple copies.
+1 Escape Rope: You wanted more switching cards, and it's a very cool card when used correctly. ;)
+1 Colress: With this deck, you tend to have a full bench, so you'll draw at least as much as with Shauna most of the time.

And also, if you want to think outside the box:

-1 G Booster
-1 Genesect-EX
+1 Dowsing Machine/Computer Search
+1 Lugia-EX
I know, that might sound crazy when you first see it, but that 4th Max Potion, or the Prism you need so desperately is something you just can't deny it's very good. And Lugia can be very advantageous against decks with Miltank and he like, taking 2 Prizes.

Hope I could help you, and let me know what you think! :D
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I do agree with the colress over the shauna, Im thinking more of:
-2 Shauna
+1 Colress
+1 Escape Rope
I'm not so sure about the cassius though. It comes in handy late game (even when I discard it early game and pal pad it back in). And when my opponent is like 10 off from knocking me out and I have 1-2 plasma energy on it saves me a butt load of resources.

I do like the idea of lugia, but then the deck gets too techy. The ability is great, don't get me wrong, but in what situation am I going to use lugia ex over landorus EX to KO a miltank. I guess if they're running Empoleon Miltank...but with dusknoir on their side max potion wont matter too much if I miss a turn of healing. What I'm thinking is maybe take out landorus EX/yveltal EX for a lugia? What are your thoughts on this?
 
RE: Plasma Faries: Possible LCQ Deck 1/4

Elbow said:
Luispipe8 said:
Wow, nice deck! Good luck at the grinder! :D

So, about the deck, I'd do:

-1 Cassius: Yes, it works kinda like a Max Potion, but it's not really good...
-1 Shauna: It's not the best draw Supporter you can have, TBH. Sure, it's good, bud not in multiple copies.
+1 Escape Rope: You wanted more switching cards, and it's a very cool card when used correctly. ;)
+1 Colress: With this deck, you tend to have a full bench, so you'll draw at least as much as with Shauna most of the time.

And also, if you want to think outside the box:

-1 G Booster
-1 Genesect-EX
+1 Dowsing Machine/Computer Search
+1 Lugia-EX
I know, that might sound crazy when you first see it, but that 4th Max Potion, or the Prism you need so desperately is something you just can't deny it's very good. And Lugia can be very advantageous against decks with Miltank and he like, taking 2 Prizes.

Hope I could help you, and let me know what you think! :D
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I do agree with the colress over the shauna, Im thinking more of:
-2 Shauna
+1 Colress
+1 Escape Rope
I'm not so sure about the cassius though. It comes in handy late game (even when I discard it early game and pal pad it back in). And when my opponent is like 10 off from knocking me out and I have 1-2 plasma energy on it saves me a butt load of resources.

I do like the idea of lugia, but then the deck gets too techy. The ability is great, don't get me wrong, but in what situation am I going to use lugia ex over landorus EX to KO a miltank. I guess if they're running Empoleon Miltank...but with dusknoir on their side max potion wont matter too much if I miss a turn of healing. What I'm thinking is maybe take out landorus EX/yveltal EX for a lugia? What are your thoughts on this?
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I agree on the switch above with Shauna. And Cassius, well, I'd test it a lot to see how much is it worth to use it, TBH. And I wouldn't take out either, really, Landorus-EX is good for early pressure, and Yveltal-EX is just too good on itself that it's not worth taking it out. Giving it second thoughts, I'd say to stay away from the Lugia for the moment, since I don't think a lot of people will play Miltank at Worlds...
 
RE: Plasma Faries: Possible LCQ Deck 1/4

I would agree that Lugia isn't the best idea, Landorus and Yveltal are just amazing in here.

One question: is Entei EX all there is to combat VirGen? I would assume so, but starting with it whenever you're not against that deck can make things tougher for you. (This sort of thing is why Cassius is pretty good in here.)

What are your thoughts on Darkrai? With 2 Fairy Garden, you risk losing the Stadium war, but bench space is a precious commodity with this deck. It really is a personal choice.

Also, how do you plan on dealing with Pyroar? Is the only plan G-Booster? If so, you may want a Shadow Triad, because if you lose that, you're sunk.

One last thought- what do you think about Suicune/Sigilyph? This is all preference, but being able to stall with them can help a good amount of the time.
 
RE: Plasma Faries: Possible LCQ Deck 1/4

OblivionDvdr said:
I would agree that Lugia isn't the best idea, Landorus and Yveltal are just amazing in here.

One question: is Entei EX all there is to combat VirGen? I would assume so, but starting with it whenever you're not against that deck can make things tougher for you. (This sort of thing is why Cassius is pretty good in here.)

What are your thoughts on Darkrai? With 2 Fairy Garden, you risk losing the Stadium war, but bench space is a precious commodity with this deck. It really is a personal choice.

Also, how do you plan on dealing with Pyroar? Is the only plan G-Booster? If so, you may want a Shadow Triad, because if you lose that, you're sunk.

One last thought- what do you think about Suicune/Sigilyph? This is all preference, but being able to stall with them can help a good amount of the time.
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Entei ex is there for virgen. And cassius helps when you start with a non essential pokemon...like entei start against blastoise.
I think darkrai isn't needed, but sometimes more helpful then the stadium. I'm going to do the stadium route over darkrai because most decks that run stadiums don't pose a real threat to this deck. I'm going to move a switching card to a fairy garden though.
Giratina EX is my pyroar and sigi/suicune counter. It goes right through their ability and ohkoes them with a muscle band. Amd I have a sacred ash so if it gets KOed then I can get it back. A shadow triad might be good, like a 3rd genesect or 5th red signal...I think I'll take out lysandre for one.
No need to add stalling cards in this deck. I'm not running mega kangatisse.
- 1 escape rope
-1 lysandre

+1 fairy garden
+1 shadow triad
 
RE: Plasma Faries: Possible LCQ Deck 1/4

BUMP.
Any more/new feedback is appreciated.
 
-Entei EX
+Charizard EX
Not only is it good for VirGen, but a Muscle Banded Combustion Blast does OHKO Yveltal amongst all other 170HP guys. Yeah it costs 4 Energy, but when you can pull out that sort of surprise your opponent doesn't expect it, and it can even win you the game.

-Giratina EX
+Baby Ray
They do the same job for the same Energy, but Ray only gives out 1 prize, forcing 7th prize situation. Not to mention that it's main use is for Pyroar, and Pyroar can't OHKO Ray. Also, if necessary, you can use the 1-Energy Dragon Pulse to dish out 60 with a Muscle Band which is something you can't complain about.

In my own build of the deck I play a single DCE as well, as it works so nicely with Yveltal, Charizard, and even Thundurus if necessary to get the quick kill. If you can find space I recommend it (or at least test with it).
 
Ryan Sinclair said:
-Entei EX
+Charizard EX
Not only is it good for VirGen, but a Muscle Banded Combustion Blast does OHKO Yveltal amongst all other 170HP guys. Yeah it costs 4 Energy, but when you can pull out that sort of surprise your opponent doesn't expect it, and it can even win you the game.

-Giratina EX
+Baby Ray
They do the same job for the same Energy, but Ray only gives out 1 prize, forcing 7th prize situation. Not to mention that it's main use is for Pyroar, and Pyroar can't OHKO Ray. Also, if necessary, you can use the 1-Energy Dragon Pulse to dish out 60 with a Muscle Band which is something you can't complain about.

In my own build of the deck I play a single DCE as well, as it works so nicely with Yveltal, Charizard, and even Thundurus if necessary to get the quick kill. If you can find space I recommend it (or at least test with it).
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The only time I'd see charizard being better then entei is against yveltal garb and tdk. The only way to OHKO VirGen with charizard is with combustion blast...and its 1st attack only does 160 for 3 energy and band (weakness). Entei does 100 with band for 2 energy (100 is good enough for a 2HKO), and with a bad start can burn an active genesect/pikachu. Also, charizard is terrible against yveltal. Yes, the surprise factor of slapping him down with a band for 170 damage is threatening, but the OHKO back with a dce, dark, and band is much scarier. In addition, 4 energy is a lot to lose with charizard. I can 2hko him with a thundurus ex much easier.
And I have tested with baby ray and its much worst. To me, the only benefit is the early T1 attack. Even though pyroar only does 110 damage, the moment I don't max potion, cassius, or flop off 110-10 damage from ray I'm screwed. With giratina I'm a little nor flexible with hp. He can take 60 damage before needing to be healed for a pyroar attack. I also think that having giratinas second attack is much better then rayquazas first attack. It also discards cards from your deck, but after a raiden knuckle this attack with a band sets up 180 damage on the active pokemon. And unlike charizard you can attack next turn.
 
So since Giratina EX goes through Pyroar's Intimidating mane with Shred, I assume that means that it goes through Safeguarders as well?
 
LoneWolf2113 said:
So since Giratina EX goes through Pyroar's Intimidating mane with Shred, I assume that means that it goes through Safeguarders as well?
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Yes, Shred does damage no matter what. The only thing that would "stop" Shred are Crustle's Sturdy and the newly released Focus Sash.
 
Opinion:
Landorus ex is really good against miltank, but terrible against empoleon.
I went 3-2 today at my first masters LC (5 points maybe lol), but I played a fun game with one of my friends playing empoleon. I OHKOed 2 miltank with landorus, but he easily OHKOed me back with a empoleon.
Besides for the early damage spread and easy KOes, the prize trade off usually isn't worth it.
Question:
Does anyone think maybe taking him out and putting in a deoxys excould help?
 
Elbow said:
Opinion:
Landorus ex is really good against miltank, but terrible against empoleon.
I went 3-2 today at my first masters LC (5 points maybe lol), but I played a fun game with one of my friends playing empoleon. I OHKOed 2 miltank with landorus, but he easily OHKOed me back with a empoleon.
Besides for the early damage spread and easy KOes, the prize trade off usually isn't worth it.
Question:
Does anyone think maybe taking him out and putting in a deoxys excould help?
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After the success Empoleon had in US Nationals, I would expect a lot of them in the LCQ and in the Championship itself. Might not be the worst Idea, you should test that.
 
I would keep landorus in over deoyxys. Lando is more versitile than deyoxys in my opinin. But i would still test deoyxs to see if the power boost is benificial to you and the psychic attacker over fighting.
 
Ironman131 said:
I would keep landorus in over deoyxys. Lando is more versitile than deyoxys in my opinin. But i would still test deoyxs to see if the power boost is benificial to you and the psychic attacker over fighting.
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More versatile? Care to explain?

Luispipe8 said:
Elbow said:
Opinion:
Landorus ex is really good against miltank, but terrible against empoleon.
I went 3-2 today at my first masters LC (5 points maybe lol), but I played a fun game with one of my friends playing empoleon. I OHKOed 2 miltank with landorus, but he easily OHKOed me back with a empoleon.
Besides for the early damage spread and easy KOes, the prize trade off usually isn't worth it.
Question:
Does anyone think maybe taking him out and putting in a deoxys excould help?
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After the success Empoleon had in US Nationals, I would expect a lot of them in the LCQ and in the Championship itself. Might not be the worst Idea, you should test that.
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I think I will test it. And it also helps out with thundurus and genesect math. Like doing 60 and then 110 with thundy and genesect with deoxys on the bench. It also is another team plasma that can help thundurus ex. Also I think helix force is much better then hammerhead...but obviously it's not as good as lands judgment.
The only downside is that I don't have a colress machine, do you think putting in one could help?
 
Elbow said:
Ironman131 said:
I would keep landorus in over deoyxys. Lando is more versitile than deyoxys in my opinin. But i would still test deoyxs to see if the power boost is benificial to you and the psychic attacker over fighting.
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More versatile? Care to explain?
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I believe he means that it's easier and faster to attack with Landorus than Deoxys. Although I do like Deoxys because it can hit a 4 Energy Yveltal for a KO with a Muscle Band, can be another Raiden Knuckle target, can damage a lot of Pokémon heavily...
 
yeah it makes sense why you would use it. If this is the deck you are playing a worlds i would keep landorus in because there will be more fighting weak pokemon, but after nationals i would use deoyxs because luccario will see alot of play.
 
Ironman131 said:
yeah it makes sense why you would use it. If this is the deck you are playing a worlds i would keep landorus in because there will be more fighting weak pokemon, but after nationals i would use deoyxs because luccario will see alot of play.
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This does bring up the point that TDK would be an incredibly hard match for this deck (without landorus and any metal pokemon).
 
I've been testing...
Deoxys isn't as helpful as originally thought.
Its catchered up before I can use it for its attack and OHKOed by a mewtwo, sigi, or mirror.
I'm thinking maybe changing him out for a suicune and/or sigilyph. Suicune would be a good Char-Roar counter, but suicune would be a better replacement for deoxys and helps against deoxys or mewtwo.
Help?
 
Yeah, Suicune is actually a very good call! It can also wall some EX's in case it's not vs Charizard.
 
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